CDZ I want to know something

[playtime]

These ridiculous comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis by BOTH ends are an insult to the millions who suffered and died.

But our wingers don't care.
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i care very much & drumpf is more akin to mussolini but either way he is a certainly a dictator in the making. i gave a valid non biased link & many examples of what a dictator is & compared them to factual trump's words & deeds.....

No, you gave some specific similarities in a very generalized sense. Then ignored all of the blatant things that are not similar. Thus the comparison is asinine.

i ignored nothing. i went thru each & every one giving specific examples & there was no generalizations at all.

 

[Picaro]

There are some similarities between Trump's and Hitler's ascension to power, but not between the men themselves. (Hitler was an underachiever who relied on the Nazi organization to carry him to power, whereas Trump is an overachiever who was elected almost solely on his own efforts.) Ironically, the real similarities are between the weak and corrupt Wiemar Republic and the weak and corrupt Obama Administration, both of which were leading their citizens to social and financial ruin.

Reminds me I was going to start a thread in the History Forum on the Wiemar Republic. In any case, Obama's mis-rule was more akin to the Boss Tweed regime in NYC writ large and 'nationalized', relying on exploiting social divisions among ethnic groups and massive corruption, while Hitler's was most certainly an ideological movement. Contrasting Hitler's fascist polices with FDR's we find entirely different outcomes and results, so it wasn't fascism per se that 'failed', but policies built around ideological fantasies that couldn't be backed away from once committed to them.

 

[playtime]

^^^ what more proof do you need ? ^^^

 

[FA_Q2]

^^^ what more proof do you need ? ^^^

Well, considerably more than that considering that your video has literally nothing to do with showing Trump as a dictator.

 

[Picaro]

i ignored nothing.

Except reality, that is.

... & there was no generalizations at all.

True, since there wasn't an iota of truth and fact in your rubbish, and genuine generalizations tend to make use of both.

 

[playtime]

^^^ what more proof do you need ? ^^^

Well, considerably more than that considering that your video has literally nothing to do with showing Trump as a dictator.

i threw that one in as a freebie 'icing on the best chocolate cake' if you will .... the fact that it took him 2 days b4 saying ANYTHING about charlettesville, then reading from a prepared statement... why? he claims it was because he wanted 'facts' first... because that is how he rolls. what pure bullshit.

like obama was a kenyan... like obama wired tapped his building...

he said NOTHING for 2 days because he didn't want to. & when he finally did, he called out no groups by name. why? because those are the die hard deplorables still clinging to his insanity; believing he's the guy who will deliver the goods for them.

& then what did he do after that youtubed circus act i posted? he doubled down & said he had no regrets.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

CONFEDERATE FLAGS & SWASTIKAS EVERYWHERE... #MAGA

btw- even though you spewed your disapproval ----you never did get back to me with any rebuttal to each & every tenet & the specific examples of fascism that i posted earlier in this thread. that was 8 months ago.... you had plenty of time. what's the hold up 'eh?

lol... no worries, i never expected you to even try.

 

[playtime]

i ignored nothing.

Except reality, that is.

... & there was no generalizations at all.

True, since there wasn't an iota of truth and fact in your rubbish, and genuine generalizations tend to make use of both.

oh well then....by all means... go to that post & refudiate any & all of them....one by one.... with your own alternative facts that counterpoint each & every specific example i gave. i would LOVE to see what you got.

but the question begs - how long before that materializes 'eh?

 

[Picaro]

i ignored nothing.

Except reality, that is.

... & there was no generalizations at all.

True, since there wasn't an iota of truth and fact in your rubbish, and genuine generalizations tend to make use of both.

oh well then....by all means... go to that post & refudiate any & all of them....one by one.... with your own alternative facts that counterpoint each & every specific example i gave. i would LOVE to see what you got.

but the question begs - how long before that materializes 'eh?

I don't waste time doing the obvious, for the same reasons I don't bother with debunking the Reptilean Shapeshifter Invasion or astrology; no point in playing "I Touched You Last!!!' with idiots. It's more than sufficient to just let your nonsense speak for itself; it's self-debunking and ridiculous on its face.

 

[playtime]

i ignored nothing.

Except reality, that is.

... & there was no generalizations at all.

True, since there wasn't an iota of truth and fact in your rubbish, and genuine generalizations tend to make use of both.

oh well then....by all means... go to that post & refudiate any & all of them....one by one.... with your own alternative facts that counterpoint each & every specific example i gave. i would LOVE to see what you got.

but the question begs - how long before that materializes 'eh?

I don't waste time doing the obvious, for the same reasons I don't bother with debunking the Reptilean Shapeshifter Invasion or astrology; no point in playing "I Touched You Last!!!' with idiots. It's more than sufficient to just let your nonsense speak for itself; it's self-debunking and ridiculous on its face.

sure, darling. that is why you haven't produced a single rebuttal in a forum that is clearly marked for debate. you trolled & you failed or you would have taken great glee in proving me wrong with facts. you can't so you didn't.

 

[playtime]

FASCISM TENETS

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Trump said NFL owners should respond to the players by saying, "Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, he's fired. He's fired!"

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

& SCREW the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Just how can you possibly compare President Trump to Hitler? Or any dictator or murderer? What motivates that? I'm plainly curious.

It's what they were told to think.

It all began with the DNC inter-office mails.

WikiLeaks - Search the DNC email database

"Trump spouts hateful and dangerous lies about Muslims and called to surveil mosques, to ban Muslims from entering the country and to create a database of all Muslims in America - including U.S. citizens - and could not answer when pressed on how this would be any different from Nazi Germany."

All bullshit. BTW, the wikileaks show how the MSM is in cahoots with the DNC.

Yes indeed. The cat is out of the bag.

 

[Mac1958]

Just how can you possibly compare President Trump to Hitler? Or any dictator or murderer? What motivates that? I'm plainly curious.

It's the same reason right wingers start endless threads about how Hitler was a liberal: Americans have lost the ability to communicate and debate and challenge each other in an intelligent, reasonable and thoughtful manner.

It's much easier to just knee-jerk into hyperbole and blast away. No real intelligence, reason or thought required.

This is what happens when a culture becomes narcissistic, shallow and intellectually lazy.
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[Picaro]

It's the same reason right wingers start endless threads about how Hitler was a liberal:
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Actually the claim is the Nazis were left wingers, and some indeed were, like Goebbels and Himmler. Hitler himself was an opportunist, and joined a movement that was essentially left wing at the beginning, when the Strasserites dominated the early Nazi ideology. When the Party lost the elections of 1932, he tossed the Strassers and their plan to make compromises with the center left Party under the bus and cut a deal with the Junkers and industrialists and went 'Right', blackmailed Hindenburg, and assassinated his chief rival, and having his own private army at that point was able to pull off seizing the Chancellorship. 'National Bolshevism' is alive and well in Russia today as well.

German National Bolshevism

"National Bolshevism" as a term was first used to describe a current in the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) and then the Communist Workers' Party of Germany (KAPD) which wanted to ally the insurgent communist movement with dissident nationalist groups in the German army who rejected the Treaty of Versailles.[4] They were led by Heinrich Laufenberg and Fritz Wolffheim, based in Hamburg. Their expulsion from the KAPD was one of the conditions that Karl Radek explained was necessary if the KAPD was to be welcomed to the Third Congress of the Third International. However the demand that they withdraw from the KAPD would probably have happened anyway. Radek had dismissed the pair as "National Bolsheviks", the first recorded use of the term in a German context.[5]

Radek subsequently courted some of the radical nationalists he had met in prison to unite with the Bolsheviks in the name of National Bolshevism. He saw in a revival of National Bolshevism a way to "remove the capitalist isolation" of the Soviet Union.[1]

During the 1920s, a number of German intellectuals began a dialogue which created a synthesis between radical nationalism (typically referencing Prussianism) and Bolshevism as it existed in the Soviet Union. The main figure in this was Ernst Niekisch of the Old Social Democratic Party of Germany, who edited the Widerstand journal.[6]

A National Bolshevik tendency also existed with the German Youth Movement, led by Karl Otto Paetel. Paetel had been a supporter of the Nazi Party but became disillusioned with them as he did not feel they were truly committed to revolutionary activity or socialist economics. His 1930-formed movement, the Group of Social Revolutionary Nationalists, sought to forge a "third way" between the Nazis and the Communists, emphasising both nationalism and socialist economics.[7] he was especially active in a largely unsuccessful attempt to win section of the Hitler Youth over to his cause.[8]

Although members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party under Adolf Hitler did not take part in Niekisch's National Bolshevik project and usually presented Bolshevism in exclusively negative terms as a "Jewish conspiracy", in the early 1930s there was a parallel tendency within the NSDAP which advocated similar views. This was represented by what has come to be known as Strasserism. A group led by Hermann Ehrhardt, Otto Strasser and Walther Stennes broke away in 1930 to found the Combat League of Revolutionary National Socialists (commonly known as the Black Front).[9]

National Bolshevism - Wikipedia

Hitler went on to adopt many policies from the Strasserites and Bolsheviks, nonetheless; after all, for the vast majority of people the existential realities under either Commies or Nazis are pretty much distinctions without a difference for most, and that includes what the PC Nazis and 'Anti-Fas' have in store for Americans if they were allowed to seize real power; they would be just like both. This is why Trump bashing posters like 'Playtime' come across as jealous rants; they see him as a roadblock to their dreams as wannabee Commissars and getting Big Important Government Jobs N Stuff ordering us all around and studiously searching out Politically Incorrect Stuff they can send people to 're-education camps' or 'murder pits' for, according to how they feel at any given moment.

 

[Mac1958]

It's the same reason right wingers start endless threads about how Hitler was a liberal.

Actually the claim is the Nazis were left wingers, and some indeed were, like Goebbels and Himmler.

And there ya go.
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[Picaro]

It's the same reason right wingers start endless threads about how Hitler was a liberal.

Actually the claim is the Nazis were left wingers, and some indeed were, like Goebbels and Himmler.

And there ya go.
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Yes, real life can be annoying, which is why so many avoid studying history and prefer it packaged as 'talking points' slanted one way or another.

 

[flacaltenn]

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

It's his own form of populist "resistance". To push-back on the massive assault on tradition, symbols, statues and historical figures. All of which are now targeted by minions on the left wanting to PURGE all these things from the public commons.

One good "resistance" deserves another. Every resistance gets an equal and OPPOSITE resistance.

And so goes your useless partisan tribal wars. While America dies a bit more every day and suffers.

 

[Picaro]

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

It's his own form of populist "resistance". To push-back on the massive assault on tradition, symbols, statues and historical figures. All of which are now targeted by minions on the left wanting to PURGE all these things from the public commons.

One good "resistance" deserves another. Every resistance gets an equal and OPPOSITE resistance.

And so goes your useless partisan tribal wars. While America dies a bit more every day and suffers.

All of that cited in' #1' are also present in all the Commie regimes as well, so why people think they're only 'fascist' symbols is just ignorance; even the Soviets' poster art and statues looked exactly like the Nazis art in style and content, so did Mao's and the Mad Midget's. Putting them side by side and they look as if the same artists did them for all of them. National Review once did an article doing exactly that some years ago.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances ..

You forgot....."the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

[playtime]

fascism tenet #

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes [the] media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

jim? jim acosta? hello?????

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton

By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman

• Nov. 20, 2018

WASHINGTON — President Trump told the White House counsel in the spring that he wanted to order the Justice Department to prosecute two of his political adversaries: his 2016 challenger, Hillary Clinton, and the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

The lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, rebuffed the president, saying that he had no authority to order a prosecution. Mr. McGahn said that while he could request an investigation, that too could prompt accusations of abuse of power. To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment.
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Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton