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    I see a few threads here pertaining to evolution.

    I can understand if from a scientific standpoint you might not be completely sold on evolution.

    But if you believe in creationism or ID why don't you apply the same thought process to that?

    Why must there be a high standard of proof for evolution which so many of you despise yet you don't apply that to your own beliefs concerning faith? With faith there is no standard of proof. It's quite silly actually.
     
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    Well if you believe god is allpowerful and can do anything, then it's nothing for him to create humanity, plus a fossil record which appears to support evolution to lure the nonbelievers away from god.
     
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    I'll bet my SHIT stirrin stick is bigger than yours is. :whip3:
     
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    Who said anything about stirring shit? It's a message board and a place for people to debate things. You can call it stirring shit if you want. I just see it as talking about something.
     
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    Let's be serious for a second...do you really think that God put fossils there to test your belief in Genesis?
     
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    Okay..after your 651 posts if you haven't learned yet, I guess you won't.
    Carry on, see what kind of "DEBATE" you get on this subject here.

    Here, hold my stick for me, you'll need two. :eek:
     
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    Science is not the only way to determine truth. Logic and philosophy are equally valid ways to determine whether or not something is true. As ID/creationism can be shown to be true using logical arguments.
     
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    Look...that's just silly. Be serious now. Logic would not lead you to believe in anything other than evolution.
     
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    The view you reference is called "young-earth creationism," and is not held universally by all Christians. There are many Christians, including me, who believe that the universe was created, by God, through the 11-12 billion year time span that scientists determine is the age of the universe. We view the six days of creation to be more like six different time periods, during which God was actively involved in creating different things (the earth, the stars, plants, land, oceans, animals, etc.). Therefore, we see no conflict between our faith and the existence of fossils, dinosaurs, etc.
     
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    OK, try this on for size:

    1. Jesus was the Son of God, and was Himself divine (article of Christian faith; provable, but it would take a long time and is outside this thread).
    2. God cannot lie (see the Bible; however, it can also be proved that if God exists, and is Himself the ultimate cause of everything, that He must be purely good, which precludes lying).
    3. Therefore, Jesus cannot lie.
    4. Jesus affirmed that God created the universe.
    5. Therefore, since Jesus cannot lie, God created the universe.
     

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