I want one Obama supporter to Explain why he CUT over $700 Billion from Medicare?

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    serious question....

    Please explain the logic behind such a move. At a time Medicare is already struggling to stay afloat, at a time the "baby-boomers" are entering the Medicare system and going to tax those resources even more Why on earth would Obama CUT the program by over $700 billion?

    I know why I think he did it....but I want to know under YOUR logic, what makes sense about his having done this? What is the benefit to seniors or to the nation as a whole in having done this?

    Do any of you know HIS logic for this move?


    I've never heard anyone, not even him talk about the "why" this was done. Can any of you explain it?
     
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    I'm no expert on the Health Care law but I believe cutting 700 billion in fraud and waste from the trillions of Medical Care Corporations is better than the Ryan Plan to cut 700+ billion from the payments to the elderly.
     
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    FACT CHECK: Obama, Ryan, Romney Backed Medicare Cuts - ABC News


    One way or another, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney all have supported the $700 billion in cuts to Medicare spending now in place under the Affordable Care Act.

    But you wouldn’t know that by listening to the current debate.

    The Romney-Ryan campaign in its latest TV ad assails Obama for approving the cuts in 2010. “Obama has cut $716 billion dollars from Medicare,” says the narrator. “The money you paid for your guaranteed health care…is going to a massive new government program that’s not for you.”

    Voters might be left with the impression that Romney and Ryan have both opposed the cuts. The truth is that Ryan himself endorses them in his signature budget plan – the same plan Romney has said he would sign as president if it reached his desk.
     
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    You've never heard anyone anywhere say that Medicare was unsustainable in its current form?

    Seriously? I think you're lying.


    1. The plan, pre-ACA, was projected to be insolvent by 2016.

    2. It was not feasible to get tax increases to remedy that problem

    3. The Obama reforms extend the insolvency date to 2024.
     
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    When Romney, if president, repeals Obamacare on day one, as he has promised,

    the insolvency date of Medicare falls back to 2016 - thus WITHIN THE ROMNEY PRESIDENCY.

    Do you think he's going to push that date out, assuming he does, without 'cutting Medicare'???

    How???
     
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    They reduce reimbursement rates for all who provide services to Medicare patients, regardless of how well or badly they treat their patients. Among the cuts is a $156 billion reduction in payments to Medicare Advantage plans over ten years. These cuts will force seniors to pay $3,700 more for their health care by 2017

    the cuts will drive some 4 million seniors out of Medicare Advantage plans between 2012 and 2018.

    Further, the Medicare cuts in Obamacare would slash payment rates for hospitals, so much so that the chief actuary of the program has warned repeatedly that the cuts will jeopardize access to care for seniors. He has estimated that if the cuts go into effect, 15 percent of hospitals and nursing homes will have to stop taking Medicare patients to avoid the large financial losses that result from getting paid at Medicare rates. By 2030, some 25 percent of these institutions would need to drop out of the Medicare program.


    Yep sounds like Obama's 700 billion dollar cuts in medicare makes everything perfect.

    President Obama

    Medicare's Chief Actuary: Sorry, ObamaCare's Medicare Reforms Probably Aren't Viable in the Long Term - Hit & Run : Reason.com

    Everyone quit pretending that Obama's cuts are good but Ryan's potential cuts are baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsyEtAkrOo]Obama Discusses w ABC Gutting Medicare to Fund Obamacare November 2009 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    so when they make sure doctors and hospitals won't take medicare patients then how does the patient get care? answer? he doesn't obama lied millions died.
     
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    Ryan isn't running for POTUS.

    The Romney plan eliminates Obama's draconian cuts.

    Granny gets her hip.
     

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