I used to like McCain

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I used to like John McCain. Was a huge fan actually. He was my Bob Dole in this election--an across the aisle joke-cracking Republican that you could respect, admire and possibly vote for without worry of a book blaze taking place in front of the White House on inauguration day.

Three months ago, McCain was my first choice.

Man, kiss that good bye.

I won't stand atop a dead horse and whack him too much more, but the constant barrage of negativity by McCain is where he lost my respect. And his insolence in the debate with the Obama-Ayers connection was the pipe bomb that broke the camel's back.

Of course, McCainanites will shout, "But we have the right to know the truth! What was the extent of the Obama-Ayers relationship?"

I have no argument with that. I would like to know as well. Were they drafting socialist manifestos? Were they giving each other oil-rubs in the sauna? Whatever. All is fair game in the unfair game of becoming the Prez.

But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

Luckily his tactic (or 'strategy?' You have to help me with that Johnny, which is it?) has not helped him at all. Americans have made it clear in polling that they find the negativity napalm that McCain is carpet bombing the airwaves with is getting a bit (read 'very') tiresome.

We see this now as McCain has changed gears (again) and decided that Joe the Plumber is a better ploy than William the terrorist.

It is sad to see a man in the mid-December of his years go out like this. How ironic that all of that experience he loves to rave about has apparently taught him little in the ways of civil debate.

At any rate, all that I have written above really masks the TRUE reason why I have lost respect for McCain: He didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the debate. Obviously, this makes him a terrorist shrouded in mystery.

Bobby McGill
Idle Wordship-The World We View
 
McCain can't run on his record, because his record is one of failure.

He voted with the worst president in American history 90% of the time.
 
I used to like John McCain. Was a huge fan actually. He was my Bob Dole in this election--an across the aisle joke-cracking Republican that you could respect, admire and possibly vote for without worry of a book blaze taking place in front of the White House on inauguration day.

Three months ago, McCain was my first choice.

Man, kiss that good bye.

I won't stand atop a dead horse and whack him too much more, but the constant barrage of negativity by McCain is where he lost my respect. And his insolence in the debate with the Obama-Ayers connection was the pipe bomb that broke the camel's back.

Of course, McCainanites will shout, "But we have the right to know the truth! What was the extent of the Obama-Ayers relationship?"

I have no argument with that. I would like to know as well. Were they drafting socialist manifestos? Were they giving each other oil-rubs in the sauna? Whatever. All is fair game in the unfair game of becoming the Prez.

But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

Luckily his tactic (or 'strategy?' You have to help me with that Johnny, which is it?) has not helped him at all. Americans have made it clear in polling that they find the negativity napalm that McCain is carpet bombing the airwaves with is getting a bit (read 'very') tiresome.

We see this now as McCain has changed gears (again) and decided that Joe the Plumber is a better ploy than William the terrorist.

It is sad to see a man in the mid-December of his years go out like this. How ironic that all of that experience he loves to rave about has apparently taught him little in the ways of civil debate.

At any rate, all that I have written above really masks the TRUE reason why I have lost respect for McCain: He didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the debate. Obviously, this makes him a terrorist shrouded in mystery.

Bobby McGill
Idle Wordship-The World We View

You think Obama has not run negative ads? They are both guilty of that one.
 
McCain can't run on his record, because his record is one of failure.

He voted with the worst president in American history 90% of the time.

Has Obama EVER stood up to his own party that would be a no 0%. McCain is fighting W over extended wages for people who are laid off. McCain is fighting W over the housing decisions right now. I think McCain's record speaks loud and clear. Let's take a look at Obama's record oh wait he does not have one.
 
I used to like John McCain. Was a huge fan actually. He was my Bob Dole in this election--an across the aisle joke-cracking Republican that you could respect, admire and possibly vote for without worry of a book blaze taking place in front of the White House on inauguration day.

Three months ago, McCain was my first choice.

Man, kiss that good bye.

I won't stand atop a dead horse and whack him too much more, but the constant barrage of negativity by McCain is where he lost my respect. And his insolence in the debate with the Obama-Ayers connection was the pipe bomb that broke the camel's back.

Of course, McCainanites will shout, "But we have the right to know the truth! What was the extent of the Obama-Ayers relationship?"

I have no argument with that. I would like to know as well. Were they drafting socialist manifestos? Were they giving each other oil-rubs in the sauna? Whatever. All is fair game in the unfair game of becoming the Prez.

But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

Luckily his tactic (or 'strategy?' You have to help me with that Johnny, which is it?) has not helped him at all. Americans have made it clear in polling that they find the negativity napalm that McCain is carpet bombing the airwaves with is getting a bit (read 'very') tiresome.

We see this now as McCain has changed gears (again) and decided that Joe the Plumber is a better ploy than William the terrorist.

It is sad to see a man in the mid-December of his years go out like this. How ironic that all of that experience he loves to rave about has apparently taught him little in the ways of civil debate.

At any rate, all that I have written above really masks the TRUE reason why I have lost respect for McCain: He didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the debate. Obviously, this makes him a terrorist shrouded in mystery.

Bobby McGill
Idle Wordship-The World We View

If you tell me you are going to vote for Obama now, I will tell you your full of shit and WERE never for McCain. One can not Logically go from McCain to Obama or the other.

As far as him wanting the word terrorist next to Obama. Maybe it should be. Not that Obama is a terrorist, but he is not being honest about his relationship with one, and that bothers me.

However to me it is a side issue. What I think will be the devastating effects of Obama policies is the issue I care about.
 
I used to like John McCain. Was a huge fan actually. He was my Bob Dole in this election--an across the aisle joke-cracking Republican that you could respect, admire and possibly vote for without worry of a book blaze taking place in front of the White House on inauguration day.

Three months ago, McCain was my first choice.

Man, kiss that good bye.

I won't stand atop a dead horse and whack him too much more, but the constant barrage of negativity by McCain is where he lost my respect. And his insolence in the debate with the Obama-Ayers connection was the pipe bomb that broke the camel's back.

Of course, McCainanites will shout, "But we have the right to know the truth! What was the extent of the Obama-Ayers relationship?"

I have no argument with that. I would like to know as well. Were they drafting socialist manifestos? Were they giving each other oil-rubs in the sauna? Whatever. All is fair game in the unfair game of becoming the Prez.

But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

Luckily his tactic (or 'strategy?' You have to help me with that Johnny, which is it?) has not helped him at all. Americans have made it clear in polling that they find the negativity napalm that McCain is carpet bombing the airwaves with is getting a bit (read 'very') tiresome.

We see this now as McCain has changed gears (again) and decided that Joe the Plumber is a better ploy than William the terrorist.

It is sad to see a man in the mid-December of his years go out like this. How ironic that all of that experience he loves to rave about has apparently taught him little in the ways of civil debate.

At any rate, all that I have written above really masks the TRUE reason why I have lost respect for McCain: He didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the debate. Obviously, this makes him a terrorist shrouded in mystery.

Bobby McGill
Idle Wordship-The World We View

I see your point of view.
 
Has Obama EVER stood up to his own party that would be a no 0%. McCain is fighting W over extended wages for people who are laid off. McCain is fighting W over the housing decisions right now. I think McCain's record speaks loud and clear. Let's take a look at Obama's record oh wait he does not have one.

Has Obama stood up to his party?

Yes, he has.

He defeated Hillary Clinton.
 
If you tell me you are going to vote for Obama now, I will tell you your full of shit and WERE never for McCain. One can not Logically go from McCain to Obama or the other.

As far as him wanting the word terrorist next to Obama. Maybe it should be. Not that Obama is a terrorist, but he is not being honest about his relationship with one, and that bothers me.

However to me it is a side issue. What I think will be the devastating effects of Obama policies is the issue I care about.

If you make less than $250,000 a year, Obama's policies will help you.
 
But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

True dat.

We see this constant litany of bullshit happening on this board every damned day, after all.

These people are desperate.

Everything they believed was true, turned out to be a lie.

Few of them have the personal integrity to acknowledge the obvious.

They were lied to by professional liars, and they are reluctant to acknowlege that they were foolish enough to believe those lies.

This recent bail out, for example, is proof positive that the people they supported are in no way shape or form the people these Republican loyals thought they were.

The fact that these loyals are now calling McCain and Bush socialists gives us all a good idea of how betrayed they feel.

They cling to those comforting lies they believed because those lies included in them, the conciet that they were doing better than most of us because they are special people.

But the shit the insiders have been dumping on the American people is backing up now, and the stench of it is reaching the noses of the people who were most enamoured with the status quo.

The status quo is OVER.

The lie has been EXPOSED.

These loyalists are deperate to find some explaination for what's going on that still puts all the responsibility on the liberals, or the poor, or whatever scapegoat they most enjoyed whipping for the last thirty years.

Even they don;t believe it anymore, but its all they have.

They're waiting for the next explanation for why they are being screwed from their talking heads.

If it wasn't so important that they eventurally understand the truth about the leaders they believed, their plight would almost be amusing.

I felt the same kind of betray and confusion when I was a loyal democrat.

Eventually those people who currently think people like me are the enemy are going to face the hard reality that they are, just as most Americans are, just sheep that are sheared or slaughtered as needed by the insiders who actually run this nation.
 
I used to like John McCain. Was a huge fan actually. He was my Bob Dole in this election--an across the aisle joke-cracking Republican that you could respect, admire and possibly vote for without worry of a book blaze taking place in front of the White House on inauguration day.

Three months ago, McCain was my first choice.

Man, kiss that good bye.

I won't stand atop a dead horse and whack him too much more, but the constant barrage of negativity by McCain is where he lost my respect. And his insolence in the debate with the Obama-Ayers connection was the pipe bomb that broke the camel's back.

Of course, McCainanites will shout, "But we have the right to know the truth! What was the extent of the Obama-Ayers relationship?"

I have no argument with that. I would like to know as well. Were they drafting socialist manifestos? Were they giving each other oil-rubs in the sauna? Whatever. All is fair game in the unfair game of becoming the Prez.

But McCain is not in pursuit of the truth. His primary intent is to place the word "terrorist" next to a man whose middle name is Hussein and whose last name sounds a lot like you-know-who.

Luckily his tactic (or 'strategy?' You have to help me with that Johnny, which is it?) has not helped him at all. Americans have made it clear in polling that they find the negativity napalm that McCain is carpet bombing the airwaves with is getting a bit (read 'very') tiresome.

We see this now as McCain has changed gears (again) and decided that Joe the Plumber is a better ploy than William the terrorist.

It is sad to see a man in the mid-December of his years go out like this. How ironic that all of that experience he loves to rave about has apparently taught him little in the ways of civil debate.

At any rate, all that I have written above really masks the TRUE reason why I have lost respect for McCain: He didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the debate. Obviously, this makes him a terrorist shrouded in mystery.

Bobby McGill
Idle Wordship-The World We View


About Obama's previous low name recognition compared to McCains and Clinton's, Obama used to say something like 'let the american people get to know each of us, and they'll make a good decision.' It sounds like he was talking about people like you! :)
 
Chris Wrote:
Has Obama stood up to his party?

Yes, he has.

He defeated Hillary Clinton.

Yep...and he did it all by himself (oh...and with the combine concerted effort of the mainstream media...but I'm sure that didn't help him all that much...)
 
Hillary portrayed herself as a contentious fighter, Obama portrayed himself as a unifier.

Is it any wonder that the media felt like they were at odds with one and welcomed by the other?

Obama gets human nature better than Hillary.
 
There was a time I said was going to vote for McCain. That was before the big transformation to the right. He had to go there in order to get the GOP nomination. He lost lot of moderate votes when he went there.
 
There was a time I said was going to vote for McCain. That was before the big transformation to the right. He had to go there in order to get the GOP nomination. He lost lot of moderate votes when he went there.

He felt he had to move right to be nominated. After they ruined him in 2000.
 
If you tell me you are going to vote for Obama now, I will tell you your full of shit and WERE never for McCain. One can not Logically go from McCain to Obama or the other.

this is not true after the primary season when Hilary lost, I was rooting for McCain, because i believed at the time he would be a better president than Obama because he seemed to be a strong leader and had more experience. but after seeing what has become of McCain i have grown to become disgusted at how he has run his campaign. he went from 'country first' to 'campaign first, country second'. And his VP pick was what really turned me off. As president nominee you need to choose someone as your VP who is going to be able to lead in the event of you illness or death. and Palin is not able to lead. the woman cannot even handle the media how is she going to handle being president if the president isn't able to lead anymore?
 
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campaign. he went from 'country first' to 'campaign first, country second'. And his VP pick was what really turned me off. As president nominee you need to choose someone as your VP who is going to be able to lead in the event of you illness or death. and Palin is not able to lead. the woman cannot even handle the media how is she going to handle being president if the president isn't able to lead anymore?

Just imagine if that woman were POTUS.

She appears to me to be wholly unqualified for such responsibility.

We've just had a know-nothing xenophobic POTUS for the last 8 years.

This nation wouldn't survive another such incompentent in that high office.
 
He felt he had to move right to be nominated. After they ruined him in 2000.

Exactly, after Rove and his thugs started lies on him. You got to give it to Rove though. He must be a genious. He helped elect a Chimp to the WH for 8 years.
 

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