I Urge Israel To Take Out Iran's Nuke Plant. You?

[Kevin_Kennedy]

yeah, he only said it was a good idea

He agreed with Khomeini's assertion that the regime in Israel should vanish from the pages of time. That's not a threat.

 

[REVxERIK]

It's a no brainer. Self defense. Whena leader publicly decalres a desire to kill you and then is as close to nuke weapons as Iran is...bah!

i'm going to assume you're kidding

 

[Sunni Man]

Three facts:

#1) Iran hasn't attacked another country in almost 300 years

#2) Ahmadinejad never threatened to attack Israel

#3) Ahmadinejad has never denied that the holocaust took place

 

[Contumacious]

Which of the eight known sites should they hit?

Had the sites been known Bush the war criminal would have bombed them.

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[Midnight Marauder]

all of them

whats your point?

Which of the eight known sites should they hit?

I wasn't asking you, I was asking the OP who asked, "I Urge Israel To Take Out Iran's Nuke Plant. You?"

To which I asked, "which of the eight known sites should they hit?"

Which is a good question, since the OP only mentions hitting one site. Maybe the OP only knows about one. Maybe this is why the OP seems to think it's a simple deal, a "no brainer."

It's far from it. There is even more than reasonable doubt that Israel could even hit the sites and if they did, how much damage would actually be done.

Plus, would they get permission to fly over Iraqi airspace to make these strikes? They are going to have to fly over someone's territory, to make a strike.

It's not a simple deal and not a "no brainer."

 

[Missourian]

what the hell do you mean israel doesnt have the right to exist.

Ok, YOU dont have the right to exist. Someone should come to your house forcibly remove you and kill you, because well, you dont have the right to exist let alone defend yourself

Idiot

Amazing, the Zionut Entity has not right to exist , let alone invade Iran. Indirectly, you are asking that the US gets involved because when Iran retaliates the Obama administration will claim that it had "no choice" but to attack Iran.


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Israel has a right to exist, but if it nukes Iran, it won't exist thereafter. Israel is the geographic size of New Jersey and is surrounded by hostile nations. It wouldn't stand a chance of surviving retaliation.

Wow, I could have sworn I heard an echo from 1967....is that possible?

 

[Si modo]

Three facts:

#1) Iran hasn't attacked another country in almost 300 years ....

Bullshit. 1979: Iran attacked the sovereign domain of the USA and Ahmadinejad was right there on the front lines of that attack.

 

[The Rabbi]

If that happened, it would become necessary for us to sever all relations with Israel immediately.

who is "we?"

The 57 states.

 

[Ringel05]

If that happened, it would become necessary for us to sever all relations with Israel immediately.

Who's us?

 

[Ringel05]

If that happened, it would become necessary for us to sever all relations with Israel immediately.

who is "we?"

The United States.

Yeah, right.....

 

[Ringel05]

'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

by Arash Norouzi

Across the world, a dangerous rumor has spread that could have catastrophic implications. According to legend, Iran's president has threatened to destroy Israel, or, to quote the misquote, "Israel must be wiped off the map." Contrary to popular belief, this statement was never made.

On Tuesday, October 25th, 2005 at the Ministry of Interior conference hall in Tehran, newly elected Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivered a speech at a program, reportedly attended by thousands, titled "The World Without Zionism." Large posters surrounding him displayed this title prominently in English, obviously for the benefit of the international press. Below the poster's title was a slick graphic depicting an hour glass containing planet Earth at its top. Two small round orbs representing the United States and Israel are shown falling through the hour glass' narrow neck and crashing to the bottom.

Before we get to the infamous remark, it's important to note that the "quote" in question was itself a quote – they are the words of the late Ayatollah Khomenei, the father of the Islamic Revolution. Although he quoted Khomeini to affirm his own position on Zionism, the actual words belong to Khomeini and not Ahmadinejad. Thus, Ahmadinejad has essentially been credited (or blamed) for a quote that is not only unoriginal, but represents a viewpoint already in place well before he ever took office.

The Actual Quote:

So what did Ahmadinejad actually say? To quote his exact words in Farsi:

"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "regime." pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh" is not contained anywhere in his original Farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's president threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." despite never having uttered the words "map." "wipe out" or even "Israel."

The Proof:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

Word by word translation:

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).

'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century - by Arash Norouzi

What an amazing amount of double talk and misdirection. I knew there was a reason I wore hip waders every time I enter this forum.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

fair enough

thank you

all of them

whats your point?

Which of the eight known sites should they hit?

I wasn't asking you, I was asking the OP who asked, "I Urge Israel To Take Out Iran's Nuke Plant. You?"

To which I asked, "which of the eight known sites should they hit?"

Which is a good question, since the OP only mentions hitting one site. Maybe the OP only knows about one. Maybe this is why the OP seems to think it's a simple deal, a "no brainer."

It's far from it. There is even more than reasonable doubt that Israel could even hit the sites and if they did, how much damage would actually be done.

Plus, would they get permission to fly over Iraqi airspace to make these strikes? They are going to have to fly over someone's territory, to make a strike.

It's not a simple deal and not a "no brainer."

 

[Sunni Man]

What an amazing amount of double talk and misdirection. I knew there was a reason I wore hip waders every time I enter this forum.

Then refute it

 

[Contumacious]

what the hell do you mean israel doesnt have the right to exist.

Did I stutter?

British White Paper of June 1922​

Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used such as that Palestine is to become "as Jewish as England is English." His Majesty's Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated

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[Sunni Man]

Israel would have to fly over Iraq airspace to reach Iran.

The United States controls that airspace.

If we let Israel fly over it to attack Iran

We will be considered as part of the attack on Iran by the entire world.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Israel would have to fly over Iraq airspace to reach Iran.

Actually, there's a couple of other routes they could use. None of them, including flying over Iraq, appear practical however.

The question is, would the Israelis ask permission or just go, hoping the US doesn't shoot them down for violating the airspace.

If the US doesn't shoot them down, is that permission?

 

[Ringel05]

What an amazing amount of double talk and misdirection. I knew there was a reason I wore hip waders every time I enter this forum.

Then refute it

No need. The Islamic community has made their intentions plain. The only saving grace is so far there has not been a large enough or strong enough coalition to face Israel. They're to busy fighting and killing each other over sectarian and tribal differences.

 

[Kalam]

who is "we?"

The United States.

Yeah, right.....

What?

 

[Ringel05]

The United States.

Yeah, right.....

What?

Like that's gonna happen.

 

[Sunni Man]

Israel would have to fly over Iraq airspace to reach Iran.

Actually, there's a couple of other routes they could use. None of them, including flying over Iraq, appear practical however.

The question is, would the Israelis ask permission or just go, hoping the US doesn't shoot them down for violating the airspace.

If the US doesn't shoot them down, is that permission?

There is NO way Israel won't inform the US about an impending attack on Iran.

Or fly over Iraqi airspace without consulting our government first.