I understand and believe in global warming, but...

[Crick]

I repeat

There are numerous mechanisms that could have created the MWP or the LIA. There are none that could create the sort of pulse these fools are hypothesizing. Your ice core data are regional. Give us a mechanism that will drive temperatures up 2 C and then back down 2 C, GLOBALLY, in 200 years.

The hockey stick ending was neither mistaken nor fraudulent. Shakun's desire was to see if the data supported CO2 leading warming after it had started for other reasons. He succeeded. If you want to convince me he failed, give us the opinion of someone with the appropriate letters after their name who says so and why.

And what's happened to all your posts in this thread SID?