CDZ I think people should try some narcotics

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    Do I mean the illegal ones?

    No. At least not necessarily.

    First look at list of all narcotics that are non addictive. DMT, ganja, XTC, acid. All those are NOT addictive and safe.

    So there is no dangerous.

    Then pick ones that's legal.

    In US, that means Ganja, kratom, salvia, I don't know what else.

    Now try once. Just once.

    Wait for a year.

    They said that this is very dangerous stuff. They said, like Yahweh must have told Adam, the day you eat it you die.

    The thing is, many religious bigots also said that porn is dangerous. Is it? Really? How do you know? You can read arguments after arguments of pro and con.

    But here is an advice from a businessman.

    The more authoriteys told you not to, the more you should do it.

    Don't get caught of course.

    There is always a big correlation between what helps you see reality and what's prohibited.

    Again. Try the legal ones only. At least at first.

    See for your self. What is all these "danger" all those DEA said?

    Then read info on the net and compare yourself.
     
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    Marijuana isn't dangerous, and yeah, maybe if people would smoke a blunt or two once in a while, the country would be a lot happier and friendlier place.

    Ever been to CO since they legalized it? Go into any 420 shop, and not only are the store owners friendly and nice, but everyone who is there, whether they be 21 or 78, or anywhere in between is friendly as well and will talk with you about damn near anything while you're waiting to get in the store.

    Never mind the many stories that I've heard from other vets who live up there who told me that marijuana has helped with their PTSD and gotten them off of a lot of meds that were making them unhealthy.

    Not only that, but there is a rehab facility for heroin addicts up in the NE that is working on treating heroin addicts with marijuana. Why? Because heroin withdrawl gives the person going through it joint pain, acute anxiety, nausea and a general overall ache. Know what happens when you smoke marijuana? You get pain relief, you chill out, and your appetite comes back. In the year that they have been doing this, they have had about a 60 percent success rate. 60 percent is unheard of numbers for heroin addict recovery.
     
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    I did end stage rehab for 27 years and I DO agree with that statement.
     
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    In spite of existing and continuously mounting evidence that supports everything you've said here and a great deal more I find it both amazing and somewhat depressing that so many of our fellow citizens allow those obviously corrupted representatives in Congress who continuously vote to maintain marijuana prohibition to get away with it.
     
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    Have a couple of beers every day after work, no problem.

    Drink a quart of Jack every day, problem.

    Smoke a couple of bowls every day after work, no problem.

    Smoke an ounce every day, problem.

    They can go deal with the abusers. Leave real people alone.
     
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    Why the Hell would I want to do anything like that? Even assuming a legal substance was used, why would I ever want to enter an altered and deteriorated mental state where I was no longer capable of protecting myself or making critical decisions on a moment's notice?
     
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    I've never had a problem with that.
     
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    So you would feel perfectly fine......

    Carrying a weapon (gun, knife, etc...)
    Driving a car in traffic
    Negotiating a legal contract
    Making a critical medical decision
    Etc.....

    Under the circumstances/in the mental state you're suggesting people should engage in?
     
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    What's even worse is the reason it was made illegal in the first place. There was an FBI man named Anslinger who was a racist and because black and brown people smoked marijuana more than whites did, he used marijuana as a way to lock them up, which is why the initial punishments were so draconian.

    And, he then presented this idea to Dupont (who was just now developing chemicals and didn't want competition from hemp oil), and to Herst (who also didn't like hemp, because he had timber holdings and hemp paper would have been bad for business), and they bankrolled his effort and financed the propaganda movie "Reefer Madness".

    Face it......the whole reason marijuana was made illegal in the first place was because of racism and greed.
     
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    I have yet to meet the person who is capable of smoking an entire ounce in a single day, especially if it's high grade smoke from Colorado. Do you even have an idea of how hard it would be to smoke an entire ounce in 24 hours? I do, and I can tell you that the MOST a person might be able to go through in a day, and that might be 1/4 ounce, and that is only if they have a very high tolerance and the time to sit and smoke continuously for the next 10 hours.

    The most I go through in a day is maybe 4 bowls if I smoke a lot, but the average is 2.
     

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