I STILL think Obamans birth cert was probably fake

[JakeStarkey]

The sheriff showed a photo-shopped artifact.

Sheriff Joe showed the sig on Obamas long-form birth cert was computer -gernerated..........

 

[washamericom]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGqiUxBnVGU&feature=player_embedded]Senior Editor of Foreign Policy Magazine: Obama Born In Kenya - 11/13/2012 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JakeStarkey]

Wash, no one believes it except you.

Please: go to your bedroom, spank your blow up doll thirty times, wash your hands, says your prayers, and go to bed.

 

[rightwinger]

Further proof that Barack H. Obama is a fraud.


Tue, 09/15/2009 - 16:18 · Importance: 4

Do Obama's birth announcements prove he was born in Hawaii?
(Honolulu Advertiser newspaper)

Shortly after Barack Obama was born, two identical announcements appeared in Hawaiian newspapers announcing his birth. The announcements do not prove he was born there, for the reasons outlined below.

(Unfortunately, since many witting or unwitting fans of Obama and the mainstream media are hard of thinking, I'll have to put this in bold up front: that doesn't mean he wasn't born there; that just means that the announcements aren't proof).

The announcements are simply evidence; they aren't conclusive proof and as evidence they aren't as strong as Obama supporters and the MSM would have you believe. Obama's supporters - witting or unwitting - are as usual intellectually dishonest and engaging in sloppy thinking or they're attempting to mislead people.

* What the announcements say

This is all both say:

Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4

The address given is supposedly that of his parents.
Per WorldNetDaily, an investigator's team were unable to locate anyone who remembered them living there. "Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence/Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement".

In both papers, the other names listed are the same and in the same order. This site checked some of the other names against the Social Security file and found some that didn't match; that may have an innocent explanation such as people moving and not updating their files at the time and so on.

* What the announcements don't say

* The city where Obama was born...
* the hospital where he was born...
* they don't even have his name.

If the announcements said he was born in Hawaii, and it could be shown that only a birth hospital could have placed the announcements, that would certainly be nearly conclusive evidence. However, the proof that Obama supporters are using doesn't even say where he was born.

* Was there motivation to "plant" the announcements?
The canard section below discusses those who've tried to pretend that the only reason someone could have "planted" the announcements was in case Obama would run for president.

Yet, there are other reasons: assuming for the minute that Obama was born overseas, the grandparents might have wanted the announcements as keepsakes, or to prove that Obama was born in the U.S. in case of a custody battle, or to prove that he was born in the U.S. because U.S. citizenship is very valuable.

For the Obama supporters: that doesn't mean that they were planted. That just means it's a possibility. If he were born overseas his family did have motivation to try to pretend that he was born in the U.S.

* How were announcements handled in 1961?

No one has yet provided definitive proof that the pictured birth announcements could have only come from a birth hospital and nowhere else. The fact that both papers show the same names in the same order shows beyond much doubt that they came from one source. It's not outside the realm of possibility to imagine someone from Obama's family submitting an announcement, using "social engineering" as necessary. Exactly how much proof would have been required simply to place an ad in the newspaper?

* Who lived at the listed address?

As discussed here, the address in the announcements appears to have been rented by Obama's grandparents, with Stanley possibly living in the back house. Obama Sr. rented his own apartment miles away.

* The "time travel" canard

This has been used by FactCheck and many other sources; they try to pretend that the only reason the announcements could have been planted was because his relatives thought he might run for president one day. As detailed above, his relatives had other, much more mundane motivations. Using this canard marks someone as dishonest.

Damn....the Kenyan sure pulled a fast one on you

Elected President TWICE and you can't do anything about it. Is this a great country or what?

Did you know he was a Muslim?

 

[JakeStarkey]

And a . . . Marxist!

 

[rightwinger]

And a . . . Marxist!

President Obama sure got one over on theses nutjobs. They thought they could catch him but he is too smart for them

 

[JakeStarkey]

He and the Chicago gang sure made a fool out of Americans. Wow!

And a . . . Marxist!

President Obama sure got one over on theses nutjobs. They thought they could catch him but he is too smart for them

 

[rightwinger]

He and the Chicago gang sure made a fool out of Americans. Wow!

And a . . . Marxist!

President Obama sure got one over on theses nutjobs. They thought they could catch him but he is too smart for them

As long as he gives me free stuff......I don't care where he was born

 

[JakeStarkey]

Where's our free goodies?

 

[HUGGY]

Damn skippy. I'm making extra space available on my shelves as we speak for my free shit.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I want my phone! Give me willowtree's phone!!

 

[jillian]

Let the idiots and sheeple believe their god...I also think its a fake...in the end we will find out the truth but it won't matter other than the fact we MIGHT be able to undo all the shit Obama has done if Amerika is still standing by then...I don't think it will be.

idiot... he isn't anyone's 'g-d'... is romney yours? rushbot? coutergeist?

 

[emilynghiem]

YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.

So you admit that YOU DO NOT REQUIRE ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE that says Obama is from Hawaii.

So in other words, If Barack H. Obama claimed that he was born in Hawaii, than HIS WORD is good enough for you, right? After all, why would Barack H. Obama lie to the American people? You probaly believe that Obama hasn't lied about where he was born?

You also claim that there were two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers, really. Where's your proof? What are the two local papers that printed the birth announcements? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Post something to back-up the bullshit that you claim. I'll bet that you can't, because there isn't any evidence.

YOU GOT NOTHING & BARACK H. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.

Dear WC: Why not rally all the Secession movement to get behind the Kingdom of Hawaii in their longstanding petition to nullify their annexation? by de-annexing Hawaii, they can take Obama with them. (To sweeten the deal, I would first negotiate that all 12 million illegals register as citizens of Hawaii, before de-annexation, to get rid of both problems at once!)

 

[Zoom]

Sheriff Joe showed the sig on Obamas long-form birth cert was computer -gernerated..........

Not only do you go birther, but you even mention Sherrif Joe.


You are a funny person. Or the dumbest one out there. Your pick.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are, em, on the back side of history. Keep this up, you and the 600,000 secession signatories may be sent to Easter Island, while the rest of keep vacationing in Hawaii.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.

So you admit that YOU DO NOT REQUIRE ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE that says Obama is from Hawaii.

So in other words, If Barack H. Obama claimed that he was born in Hawaii, than HIS WORD is good enough for you, right? After all, why would Barack H. Obama lie to the American people? You probaly believe that Obama hasn't lied about where he was born?

You also claim that there were two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers, really. Where's your proof? What are the two local papers that printed the birth announcements? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Post something to back-up the bullshit that you claim. I'll bet that you can't, because there isn't any evidence.

YOU GOT NOTHING & BARACK H. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.

Dear WC: Why not rally all the Secession movement to get behind the Kingdom of Hawaii in their longstanding petition to nullify their annexation? by de-annexing Hawaii, they can take Obama with them. (To sweeten the deal, I would first negotiate that all 12 million illegals register as citizens of Hawaii, before de-annexation, to get rid of both problems at once!)

 

[rightwinger]

Obama is going to pay for my gas and mortgage.....I dont care if he was born in Kenya

 

[washamericom]

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.

So you admit that YOU DO NOT REQUIRE ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE that says Obama is from Hawaii.

So in other words, If Barack H. Obama claimed that he was born in Hawaii, than HIS WORD is good enough for you, right? After all, why would Barack H. Obama lie to the American people? You probaly believe that Obama hasn't lied about where he was born?

You also claim that there were two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers, really. Where's your proof? What are the two local papers that printed the birth announcements? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Post something to back-up the bullshit that you claim. I'll bet that you can't, because there isn't any evidence.

YOU GOT NOTHING & BARACK H. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.

Dear WC: Why not rally all the Secession movement to get behind the Kingdom of Hawaii in their longstanding petition to nullify their annexation? by de-annexing Hawaii, they can take Obama with them. (To sweeten the deal, I would first negotiate that all 12 million illegals register as citizens of Hawaii, before de-annexation, to get rid of both problems at once!)

would he be eligible if he was born in hawaii before it was a state ?? maybe that's what it's about. why id sheriff get reelected if he's such a monster ? i guess we could say the same for obamajevich

 

[washamericom]

Further proof that Barack H. Obama is a fraud.


Tue, 09/15/2009 - 16:18 · Importance: 4

Do Obama's birth announcements prove he was born in Hawaii?
(Honolulu Advertiser newspaper)

Shortly after Barack Obama was born, two identical announcements appeared in Hawaiian newspapers announcing his birth. The announcements do not prove he was born there, for the reasons outlined below.

(Unfortunately, since many witting or unwitting fans of Obama and the mainstream media are hard of thinking, I'll have to put this in bold up front: that doesn't mean he wasn't born there; that just means that the announcements aren't proof).

The announcements are simply evidence; they aren't conclusive proof and as evidence they aren't as strong as Obama supporters and the MSM would have you believe. Obama's supporters - witting or unwitting - are as usual intellectually dishonest and engaging in sloppy thinking or they're attempting to mislead people.

* What the announcements say

This is all both say:

Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4

The address given is supposedly that of his parents.
Per WorldNetDaily, an investigator's team were unable to locate anyone who remembered them living there. "Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence/Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement".

In both papers, the other names listed are the same and in the same order. This site checked some of the other names against the Social Security file and found some that didn't match; that may have an innocent explanation such as people moving and not updating their files at the time and so on.

* What the announcements don't say

* The city where Obama was born...
* the hospital where he was born...
* they don't even have his name.

If the announcements said he was born in Hawaii, and it could be shown that only a birth hospital could have placed the announcements, that would certainly be nearly conclusive evidence. However, the proof that Obama supporters are using doesn't even say where he was born.

* Was there motivation to "plant" the announcements?
The canard section below discusses those who've tried to pretend that the only reason someone could have "planted" the announcements was in case Obama would run for president.

Yet, there are other reasons: assuming for the minute that Obama was born overseas, the grandparents might have wanted the announcements as keepsakes, or to prove that Obama was born in the U.S. in case of a custody battle, or to prove that he was born in the U.S. because U.S. citizenship is very valuable.

For the Obama supporters: that doesn't mean that they were planted. That just means it's a possibility. If he were born overseas his family did have motivation to try to pretend that he was born in the U.S.

* How were announcements handled in 1961?

No one has yet provided definitive proof that the pictured birth announcements could have only come from a birth hospital and nowhere else. The fact that both papers show the same names in the same order shows beyond much doubt that they came from one source. It's not outside the realm of possibility to imagine someone from Obama's family submitting an announcement, using "social engineering" as necessary. Exactly how much proof would have been required simply to place an ad in the newspaper?

* Who lived at the listed address?

As discussed here, the address in the announcements appears to have been rented by Obama's grandparents, with Stanley possibly living in the back house. Obama Sr. rented his own apartment miles away.

* The "time travel" canard

This has been used by FactCheck and many other sources; they try to pretend that the only reason the announcements could have been planted was because his relatives thought he might run for president one day. As detailed above, his relatives had other, much more mundane motivations. Using this canard marks someone as dishonest.

Damn....the Kenyan sure pulled a fast one on you

Elected President TWICE and you can't do anything about it. Is this a great country or what?

Did you know he was a Muslim?

was a muslim...

 

[HUGGY]

All Mittens offered me was he sent Avatar4321 over here to turn me into a Morman.



True story!

 

[washamericom]

what if obama turns out not to be a squeaky clean, and virtuous politician from chicago ??
nah, that could never happen....