I STILL think Obamans birth cert was probably fake

If the American people is supposed to believe the bullshit lie that Barack H. Obama is from Hawaii and that HE (Barack H. Obama) alledegly proved it, than shouldn't the article below from 2004 read: Hawaiian-born Obama all set for US Senate?

The truth is that members of the US Government already knew that Barack H. Obama was foreign born and only idiots like the Obama Ass-Kissing Drones believes that he was from Hawaii. :cuckoo: :lmao:




Sunday, June 27, 2004


Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Barrack Obama

"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."
 
Where's the link? Who posted the article? How do we know it's not backdated?

Every bit of nonsense you birfers put out is filled with fail.
 
Okay, you sourced Brietbart, that has never yet put out anything valid. Seriously, Fox News is fair, balanced, and completely honest by comparison.

The Nigerian birf certificate was actually created by an Australian guy, who crudely forged an existing Australian birth certificate.

And something you birfertards just can't get through your teeny little tinfoil-covered heads is that Obama's mom was a US citzen. He could've been born on Seti Alpha 5 and he'd still be an American. Read the fooking Constitution.

Negged for deliberately lying.
 
Okay, you sourced Brietbart, that has never yet put out anything valid. Seriously, Fox News is fair, balanced, and completely honest by comparison.

The Nigerian birf certificate was actually created by an Australian guy, who crudely forged an existing Australian birth certificate.

And something you birfertards just can't get through your teeny little tinfoil-covered heads is that Obama's mom was a US citzen. He could've been born on Seti Alpha 5 and he'd still be an American. Read the fooking Constitution.

Negged for deliberately lying.

What a load of bullshit! YOU SHOULD'VE DONE YOUR FOOKING RESEARCH AND KNOW WHAT THE FOOK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.


According to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16, it doesn't matter.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. ***

Barack H. Obama is a fraud and is illegally holding the office of President.
 
I don't know why you post such nonsense.

Do you really think everyone on this site is suddenly going to don tinfoil hats and find you credible? Really?

You're dumber than I thought.
 
i have to laugh at the people who believe everything obama says.. about his own past...
benghazi, etc.

oh i'm sure he's so pure and honest and transparent, because he says he is.

of course, they thought he would be the greatest president ever.

and they assume we know everything there is to know. gullible dimocrats, in their minds the election is already won... i guess we'll know soon enough. i still have lot's of questions about his story and documentation.
i think when he cosponsered a senate resolution to allow mccain to run would have been a clue. the governor of hawaai just happens to be an old family friend... lol

ask anthony weiner if breitbart ever got it right. lol again
 
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Wow... What compassion you flakes have using a little girl as a punchline.
 
Okay, you sourced Brietbart, that has never yet put out anything valid. Seriously, Fox News is fair, balanced, and completely honest by comparison.

The Nigerian birf certificate was actually created by an Australian guy, who crudely forged an existing Australian birth certificate.

And something you birfertards just can't get through your teeny little tinfoil-covered heads is that Obama's mom was a US citzen. He could've been born on Seti Alpha 5 and he'd still be an American. Read the fooking Constitution.

Negged for deliberately lying.

bomford and fogbow and terry lakin.

gee and obama the chicago mob has been so honest with benghazi, it's hard to imagine them as being anything but transparent. solyndra, guns for tequlia, the new black panther affair... you guys sure picked a real winner !!

by the way "birf" anything is racist and mocks a black colloquialism. you guys are ironically dim not to figure that out yet.

negged for using a racial epithet.
 
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I don't know why you post such nonsense.

Do you really think everyone on this site is suddenly going to don tinfoil hats and find you credible? Really?

You're dumber than I thought.


:blahblah:, :anj_stfu:

I don't know why you believe in such nonsense. You know the kind of nonsense that I'm talking about, don't you? The kind of nonsense that YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence. :cuckoo::lmao:

Do you practice being stupid or does it come naturally?

Barack H. Obama is a fraud.
 
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YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.:cuckoo: :tinfoil:
 
:lmao::lmao:
YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.:cuckoo: :tinfoil:

So you admit that YOU DO NOT REQUIRE ANY SUPPORTING EVIDENCE that says Obama is from Hawaii. :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

So in other words, If Barack H. Obama claimed that he was born in Hawaii, than HIS WORD is good enough for you, right? After all, why would Barack H. Obama lie to the American people? You probaly believe that Obama hasn't lied about where he was born? :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

You also claim that there were two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers, really. Where's your proof? What are the two local papers that printed the birth announcements? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Post something to back-up the bullshit that you claim. I'll bet that you can't, because there isn't any evidence. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

YOU GOT NOTHING & BARACK H. OBAMA IS A FRAUD.
 
YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.:cuckoo: :tinfoil:

A Birth certificate that lists Kenya as his fathers birthplace. Now the Birth certificate was dated 1961... Isn't it funny that the country of Kenya did not come into existence until 1963. Kenya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia From the link: The independent Republic of Kenya was founded in December1963. Sorry, your hero is a fraud.
 
The Moon landings are fake....Obama was born in Kenya
 
YOU actually believe that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii without any supporting evidence.

You're right. Two birth certificates and birth announcements in two local papers are scarely evidence. Your fake birth certificate that was forged in Australia is far more convincing.:cuckoo: :tinfoil:

A Birth certificate that lists Kenya as his fathers birthplace. Now the Birth certificate was dated 1961... Isn't it funny that the country of Kenya did not come into existence until 1963. Kenya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia From the link: The independent Republic of Kenya was founded in December1963. Sorry, your hero is a fraud.

snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
 
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Further proof that Barack H. Obama is a fraud.


Tue, 09/15/2009 - 16:18 · Importance: 4

Do Obama's birth announcements prove he was born in Hawaii?
(Honolulu Advertiser newspaper)

Shortly after Barack Obama was born, two identical announcements appeared in Hawaiian newspapers announcing his birth. The announcements do not prove he was born there, for the reasons outlined below.

(Unfortunately, since many witting or unwitting fans of Obama and the mainstream media are hard of thinking, I'll have to put this in bold up front: that doesn't mean he wasn't born there; that just means that the announcements aren't proof).

The announcements are simply evidence; they aren't conclusive proof and as evidence they aren't as strong as Obama supporters and the MSM would have you believe. Obama's supporters - witting or unwitting - are as usual intellectually dishonest and engaging in sloppy thinking or they're attempting to mislead people.

* What the announcements say

This is all both say:

Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4

The address given is supposedly that of his parents.
Per WorldNetDaily, an investigator's team were unable to locate anyone who remembered them living there. "Investigator casts doubt on Obama's birth residence/Neighbor believes family didn't live at address in newspaper announcement".

In both papers, the other names listed are the same and in the same order. This site checked some of the other names against the Social Security file and found some that didn't match; that may have an innocent explanation such as people moving and not updating their files at the time and so on.

* What the announcements don't say

* The city where Obama was born...
* the hospital where he was born...
* they don't even have his name.

If the announcements said he was born in Hawaii, and it could be shown that only a birth hospital could have placed the announcements, that would certainly be nearly conclusive evidence. However, the proof that Obama supporters are using doesn't even say where he was born.

* Was there motivation to "plant" the announcements?
The canard section below discusses those who've tried to pretend that the only reason someone could have "planted" the announcements was in case Obama would run for president.

Yet, there are other reasons: assuming for the minute that Obama was born overseas, the grandparents might have wanted the announcements as keepsakes, or to prove that Obama was born in the U.S. in case of a custody battle, or to prove that he was born in the U.S. because U.S. citizenship is very valuable.

For the Obama supporters: that doesn't mean that they were planted. That just means it's a possibility. If he were born overseas his family did have motivation to try to pretend that he was born in the U.S.

* How were announcements handled in 1961?

No one has yet provided definitive proof that the pictured birth announcements could have only come from a birth hospital and nowhere else. The fact that both papers show the same names in the same order shows beyond much doubt that they came from one source. It's not outside the realm of possibility to imagine someone from Obama's family submitting an announcement, using "social engineering" as necessary. Exactly how much proof would have been required simply to place an ad in the newspaper?

* Who lived at the listed address?

As discussed here, the address in the announcements appears to have been rented by Obama's grandparents, with Stanley possibly living in the back house. Obama Sr. rented his own apartment miles away.

* The "time travel" canard

This has been used by FactCheck and many other sources; they try to pretend that the only reason the announcements could have been planted was because his relatives thought he might run for president one day. As detailed above, his relatives had other, much more mundane motivations. Using this canard marks someone as dishonest.


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