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bascially with the caps you are yelling ....then being confrontational with 'you got a problem with that'
i am simply saying....you seem to be the one with the problem
any of those greetings beat a 'fuck you'....so what is the problem?
Religious demographics were almost 100% Christian when America was founded.
Christmas was established as a Christian Holiday.
76% or more of Americans list some form of Christianity as their religious faith.
America has welcomed and accepted people of many other religious faiths but these still make up a relatively small percentage of the population.
In one way or another, Christmas is observed by almost 100% of the U.S. population either as a religious holiday or as a secular holiday.
Christmas, as Americans have observed it, is largely an American cultural tradition.
Most of my non-Christian friends celebrate Christmas as enthusiastically as the Christians and ad their own traditions to it.
This joke was sent to me by my Jewish friend and neighbor
The Teacher asked young Patrick Murphy: "What do you do at Christmas time?
Patrick addressed the class: "Well Ms. Jones, me and my twelve brothers and sisters go to midnight mass and we sing hymns; then we come home very late and we put mince pies by the back door and hang up our stockings. Then all excited, we go to bed and wait for Father Christmas to come with all our toys.
"Very nice Patrick," she said. "Now Jimmy Brown, what do you do at Christmas?"
Well, Ms. Jones, me and my sister also go to church with Mom and Dad and we sing carols and we get home ever so late. We put cookies and milk by the chimney and we hang up our stockings. We hardly sleep, waiting for Santa Claus to bring our presents.
Realizing there was a Jewish boy in the class and not wanting to leave him out of the discussion, she asked, "Now, Isaac Cohen, what do you do at Christmas?"
Isaac said, "Well, it's the same thing every year...Dad comes home from the office. We all pile into the Rolls Royce; then we drive to Dad's toy factory. When we get inside, we look at all the empty shelves...and begin to sing: What A Friend We Have in Jesus. Then we all go to the Bahamas.
The point, is why should it offend ANYBODY to celebrate Christmas as Christmas in churches, in the community, in the schools, and in our homes? If you don't believe in Jesus, there is still Santa Claus and the Grinch. For more than 170 years, American schools enjoyed Christmas plays, Christmas concerts, decorated classrooms, put up a Christmas tree, and enjoyed all the great traditional music, religious and non religious, of the season. Somehow none of the Buddhist or Jewish or Hindu or Atheist kids were corrupted or left out in the least during all this time and most participated and had a ball. It was non coercive, a joy to participate in whether or not somebody was religious, and the high point of the year for many communities.
When there were kids of other faiths in our groups, we learned about and celebrated their religious festivals with them, sang their songs, and learned their traditions too. They didn't demand that Christmas accommodate their beliefs and we Christians didn't demand that they accommodate ours.
Why can't we still do that? Who or why is Christmas being made a derogatory term that 'might be' offensive to somebody and therefore should be avoided or put in the back someplace? What is it to you Atheists, anti-religious, anti-Christian, or others that finds Christmas such a threat? Why is that creche in the public square so offensive to you?
And you Christians and others who love Christmas? Don't you miss the freedom to celebrate Christmas that we once had?
Merry Christmas everybody!!!!! I want to celebrate it!
I say MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! You got a problem with that?
I have no problem with it.
And I would hope that you would not be offended by someone who says "Happy Holidays" to you.
Seriously?
seriously, this shit is designed to divide.
anyone who propagates it is a fucking troll.
Well then:
A Merry Syphilis and a Clappy New Year to you too......
It's only offensive to a very very small number of crackpots which your paranoia and lack of faith and good will has conflated into a vast conspiracy that leads you to use Christmas as a tool to bash people.For those actually discussing the topic thank you.
For those that the subject of Christmas seems to bring out their very worst, you kind of make my point with this thread. So acknowledging the trolls desperate to change the subject, the profanity and unkind words and the neg rep received thus far. Just so you guys won't feel ignored. I wish those of you disinterested in the topic would find something else to do though.
Now if you don't mind, I would like to continue the discussion suggested in the OP
The Demographics really don't matter. But almost all of those who first came here, at least those that were religious at all, were Christian. The Indians didn't consider themselves to be Americans so I am not counting them. And Christmas was established in this country by those who came here and it was established as a Chrisitan Holy Day. Others, the non Christians or the not especially religious would embrace the occasion and make it their own complete with their own stories and traditions and imagery of Santa and elves and sugar plum fairies.
So the question in the OP, if we could get back to that please, is what is it about Christmas that is so offensive to so many of you? How is it a threat to anybody? Why should it be offensive to anybody? When it wasn't a problem for more than 150 years, why is it necessary to change "Christmas" to "Holidays" or cut out most traditional religious Christmas carols in schools to avoid 'offending' somebody? Who are all these people who are offended?
You may not have been directing this post at foxfyre but it certainly describes her to a tee.For all the self-centered, PC morons who think THEY know what offends others, it seems as if few are actually offended when "Merry Christmas" is uttered to them.
So, to all the overly-sensitive, self-centered, arrogant, PC maggots, piss off. You got it wrong.
Aren't you the little coward?You may not have been directing this post at foxfyre but it certainly describes her to a tee.For all the self-centered, PC morons who think THEY know what offends others, it seems as if few are actually offended when "Merry Christmas" is uttered to them.
So, to all the overly-sensitive, self-centered, arrogant, PC maggots, piss off. You got it wrong.
I don't believe I said I have any problem with somebody saying Happy Holidays to me. I am pretty sure I didn't even infer that. I have a problem with those who resent my saying Merry Christmas to them.
Happy Holidays - Bing Crosby & Fred Astaire - Holiday Inn - YouTube
Happy Holidays and season's greetings have been going on for a very very long time...here is bing crosby!
I don't believe I said I have any problem with somebody saying Happy Holidays to me. I am pretty sure I didn't even infer that. I have a problem with those who resent my saying Merry Christmas to them.
So if you know that someone is of another religion, or of no faith, do you still say Merry Christmas to them?
