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How about we refund you the portion of your income taxes that goes to infrastructure, and in return, you are prohibited from using any of it?
Your argument is completely broken because there is no viable alternative available in those areas where the government has taken over the means of production, and that is precisely the problem.
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But you made up the idea that I don't support gays being able to do whatever the fuck they want. In fact, I'm so in favor of freedom, I'm saying welfare should go away and taxation should go away so I can do what I want with my property! herp derp
So....you're cool with people starving in the street....got it. What about their freedom to survive in the country where everything costs so much?..unless you want a 32" flat screen or some other unessential drivel that you can pick up for a couple hundred dollars....but real necessities? housing, food, clothing, education, health care, utilities? That shit don't come cheap. It's a huge burden for even middle class families, let alone impoverished ones.
I know....you don't care. But most of us do to one extent or another.....and don't give me the "voluntary charity" thing. Your doesn't give the impression of the charitable type.
Man you are mad. Why do you say rude shit? I care plenty, I just don't want to be robbed is that so bad? If I steal your wallet and buy my starving friend lunch we cool?
How exactly is eliminating taxes or welfare taking away people's ability to survive? I donate to charity, so can you, so can Warren Buffett. You can give 100% of your money if you want instead of whatever tax bracket you pay. You act like welfare even works? Welfare is at unheard of levels and poverty keeps increasing. Hmm
but have zero problem with "equality" when it comes to some people having money taken from them and other having money given to them. That's some equality lulz
Care to explain that logical fallacy further?
I'm hardcore conservative and favor gays having equality.
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I favor them having "equality" too. I favor government getting out of the marriage game completely. What I'm saying is that you frequently hear modern Democrats crying foul because gay people can't get married and straight people can, but you never hear them cry foul because some people are forced to contribute to the welfare state, while others are not made to contribute but only receive. IMO no welfare for anyone unless everyone contributes equally and everyone gets equal benefits, regardless of need.
How about we refund you the portion of your income taxes that goes to infrastructure, and in return, you are prohibited from using any of it?
This is exactly what school vouchers are all about. Refund the taxpayer their public school tax money and let them use it for private schools.
Right now, a person has to pay income taxes for public school infrastructure, and then if they want to utilize a private school, they have to pay yet more money out of their pocket.
The government is stifling competition in our education system right when we are in most dire need of it.
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How about we refund you the portion of your income taxes that goes to infrastructure, and in return, you are prohibited from using any of it?
Your argument is completely broken because there is no viable alternative available in those areas where the government has taken over the means of production, and that is precisely the problem.
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Saying sexual orientation is a choice is what is actually dumb.
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There is zero scientific evidence that sexual orientation is not a choice, so calling me dumb for sticking with a perfectly valid opinion until actual evidence comes along is not dumb.
Wow. It just gets dumber and dumber!
This is an Argument From Ignorance logical fallacy.
You made the claim sexual orientation is a choice, and so the burden of proof is on you to prove it is, not for others to prove the negative.
When did you choose not to be gay?
And whether or not someone chooses to be gay is yet another red herring that has nothing to do with whether a person has a right to equal protection of the laws.
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So....you're cool with people starving in the street....got it. What about their freedom to survive in the country where everything costs so much?..unless you want a 32" flat screen or some other unessential drivel that you can pick up for a couple hundred dollars....but real necessities? housing, food, clothing, education, health care, utilities? That shit don't come cheap. It's a huge burden for even middle class families, let alone impoverished ones.
I know....you don't care. But most of us do to one extent or another.....and don't give me the "voluntary charity" thing. Your doesn't give the impression of the charitable type.
Man you are mad. Why do you say rude shit? I care plenty, I just don't want to be robbed is that so bad? If I steal your wallet and buy my starving friend lunch we cool?
How exactly is eliminating taxes or welfare taking away people's ability to survive? I donate to charity, so can you, so can Warren Buffett. You can give 100% of your money if you want instead of whatever tax bracket you pay. You act like welfare even works? Welfare is at unheard of levels and poverty keeps increasing. Hmm
Why is that? Oh yeah....because American Corporations have taken what America has given them.....THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITIES that this country offers, and turned their back on it and our workforce in exchange for slave labor, loopholes that allow them to make an absolute KILLING outside of the country and not have to pay taxes on that money, and left their own country to rot. They are the ones that lobbied for those things and won them through the campaign donation scheme that is SOP these days.
Eliminating taxes....how about the debt? or did you forget about that? we already talked about welfare...I agree to disagree if you do.
Stop living in a Fantasy Land. You are never going to get rid of taxes....we owe too much to pay off in your lifetime or your kid's, or perhaps even your grandkid's. What we can do is cut spending humanely, raise taxes temporarily, and pay the debt off in a reasonable manner....then learn from our mistakes....Stop playing world police unless we are getting compensated for the military aid we give....stop rebuilding countries after we tear them apart.
Demand a return from our people on welfare....working for their benefits by helping in the upgrade of our infrastructure. There's plenty of shit to be done and they'd be a source of DOMESTIC cheap labor...that is, until they get tired of working for peanuts and get themselves off the dole.
Most of all give these companies an ultimatum....If you want all of the perks of being an American Company, then you have a responsibility not only to your P/L statement and your stockholders....you also have a responsibility to your country and it's workforce.
Personally I don't thing that sex between two adults is anyone's business but theirs. On the other hand I don't think you should have ANY rights based on who you have sex with.
but have zero problem with "equality" when it comes to some people having money taken from them and other having money given to them. That's some equality lulz
if they dont want to pay taxes they can move to another country.
they do it all the time
then the 47% of youse who pay no federal taxes should start packing.
How about if you pay no federal income taxes, you don't get to use any infrastructure??
Because that's not how tax law works.
but have zero problem with "equality" when it comes to some people having money taken from them and other having money given to them. That's some equality lulz
I guess you come from the same group of morons who think paying taxes is a form of theft?
Man you are mad. Why do you say rude shit? I care plenty, I just don't want to be robbed is that so bad? If I steal your wallet and buy my starving friend lunch we cool?
How exactly is eliminating taxes or welfare taking away people's ability to survive? I donate to charity, so can you, so can Warren Buffett. You can give 100% of your money if you want instead of whatever tax bracket you pay. You act like welfare even works? Welfare is at unheard of levels and poverty keeps increasing. Hmm
Why is that? Oh yeah....because American Corporations have taken what America has given them.....THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITIES that this country offers, and turned their back on it and our workforce in exchange for slave labor, loopholes that allow them to make an absolute KILLING outside of the country and not have to pay taxes on that money, and left their own country to rot. They are the ones that lobbied for those things and won them through the campaign donation scheme that is SOP these days.
Eliminating taxes....how about the debt? or did you forget about that? we already talked about welfare...I agree to disagree if you do.
Stop living in a Fantasy Land. You are never going to get rid of taxes....we owe too much to pay off in your lifetime or your kid's, or perhaps even your grandkid's. What we can do is cut spending humanely, raise taxes temporarily, and pay the debt off in a reasonable manner....then learn from our mistakes....Stop playing world police unless we are getting compensated for the military aid we give....stop rebuilding countries after we tear them apart.
Demand a return from our people on welfare....working for their benefits by helping in the upgrade of our infrastructure. There's plenty of shit to be done and they'd be a source of DOMESTIC cheap labor...that is, until they get tired of working for peanuts and get themselves off the dole.
Most of all give these companies an ultimatum....If you want all of the perks of being an American Company, then you have a responsibility not only to your P/L statement and your stockholders....you also have a responsibility to your country and it's workforce.
Did you just tell me taxation is great and then say businesses won't remain here because they are taxed too much? LoL?
In reality if you reduced the state to defense and basic government functions (court to enforce contracts etc) it wouldn't cost too much. 16 trillion debt 15 trillion GDP. 2 year transition IMO. HA THERE WOULD RIOTS !! Could you fucking imagine telling not only the country but the world that the us government is no longer going to steal from it's citizens to redistribute money or services or aid back to them and the rest of the world.
but have zero problem with "equality" when it comes to some people having money taken from them and other having money given to them. That's some equality lulz
I guess you come from the same group of morons who think paying taxes is a form of theft?
How is it not theft? Is there some box I can check to opt out of taxes?
I guess you come from the same group of morons who think paying taxes is a form of theft?
How is it not theft? Is there some box I can check to opt out of taxes?
He doesn't want to accept civic responsibility.
