I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.

[eots]

Also potential personality disorders from what I've read.

personality disorders are just more made up medical illness...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bguQkX1M1Pg]Psychiatrists On Psychiatry - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Samson]

The mentally ill should be removed and placed somewhere where they cannot harm others. This mother wants someone to step in and fix her son. He can't be fixed. He can't be understood or accommodated. He has to be removed and kept somewhere safe.

Where?

Do you have an extra room?

 

[syrenn]

The mentally ill should be removed and placed somewhere where they cannot harm others. This mother wants someone to step in and fix her son. He can't be fixed. He can't be understood or accommodated. He has to be removed and kept somewhere safe.

See how far you get if you even suggest pro actively locking up "the mentally ill" for the safety of the masses.

 

[eots]

Mental Health Research


Psychopathology

Last year, the team showed that artists and scientists were more common among families where bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is present, compared to the population at large. They subsequently expanded their study to many more psychiatric diagnoses -- such as schizoaffective disorder, depression, anxiety syndrome, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, autism, ADHD, anorexia nervosa and suicide -- and to include people in outpatient care rather than exclusively hospital patients.
The present study tracked almost 1.2 million patients and their relatives, identified down to second-cousin level. Since all were matched with healthy controls, the study incorporated much of the Swedish population from the most recent decades. All data was anonymized and cannot be linked to any individuals.
The results confirmed those of their previous study, that certain mental illness -- bipolar disorder -- is more prevalent in the entire group of people with artistic or scientific professions, such as dancers, researchers, photographers and authors. Authors also specifically were more common among most of the other psychiatric diseases (including schizophrenia, depression, anxiety syndrome and substance abuse) and were almost 50 per cent more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
Further, the researchers observed that creative professions were more common in the relatives of patients with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa and, to some extent, autism. According to Simon Kyaga, Consultant in psychiatry and Doctoral Student at the Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, the results give cause to reconsider approaches to mental illness.

Link between creativity and mental illness confirmed in large-scale Swedish study

 

[Quantum Windbag]

For the non-violent, I guess one can say, "They want to live that way, not taking their meds, unable to hold a job, have friends, perhaps become homeless." For those that become violent when upset? No, they do not belong amongst the unsuspecting. They should be forced by courts to be in residential centers for the purpose of giving them the care they need, meds to hopefully turn their lives around, and much more freedom than prison, which tends to be the choice of housing for so many today.

You think people should lose their civil rights simply because society thinks they are abnormal?

Emphasis has always been on violence. No, I don't think autistic kids in general or depressed people or OCD that's non-violent, etc., should be locked up for being 'abnormal.' I also don't believe that schizophrenics are better off on the street than in an environment where they can be medicated and kept safe. There was a time that parents could have these people put in sanitarium if they had the money. Another option was to make them wards of the state. That all disappeared for other than the retarded, pretty much in the 1960's. It was done for the right intentions and to save money. In actuality it paved the way to hell on earth for too many.

Therein lies the problem, until they actually do something, they aren't violent.

 

[freedombecki]

Mental Health Research

Psychopathology

Last year, the team showed that artists and scientists were more common among families where bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is present, compared to the population at large. They subsequently expanded their study to many more psychiatric diagnoses -- such as schizoaffective disorder, depression, anxiety syndrome, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, autism, ADHD, anorexia nervosa and suicide -- and to include people in outpatient care rather than exclusively hospital patients.
The present study tracked almost 1.2 million patients and their relatives, identified down to second-cousin level. Since all were matched with healthy controls, the study incorporated much of the Swedish population from the most recent decades. All data was anonymized and cannot be linked to any individuals.
The results confirmed those of their previous study, that certain mental illness -- bipolar disorder -- is more prevalent in the entire group of people with artistic or scientific professions, such as dancers, researchers, photographers and authors. Authors also specifically were more common among most of the other psychiatric diseases (including schizophrenia, depression, anxiety syndrome and substance abuse) and were almost 50 per cent more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
Further, the researchers observed that creative professions were more common in the relatives of patients with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa and, to some extent, autism. According to Simon Kyaga, Consultant in psychiatry and Doctoral Student at the Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, the results give cause to reconsider approaches to mental illness.

Link between creativity and mental illness confirmed in large-scale Swedish study

I know many creative people in my community, eots. More of them are solid citizens, civil, hard-working, and productive citizens who give a lot of time to community benefits as well as work at day jobs. Sweden is in the land of the midnight sun belt. That has another side--short, short days in the winter with several days of near unending nights a couple of weeks a year. That would produce a lot of "seasonal affective disorder" with people who do not pay astute attention to bright lights indoors for at least 12 hours a day. I'm going to say Sweden's results might not have a par with people who live in the subtropics and tropics, possibly reflecting people so preoccupied with their work they forget about turning the lights up.

Or maybe I'm wrong and that was taken into account.

 

[squeeze berry]

The mentally ill should be removed and placed somewhere where they cannot harm others. This mother wants someone to step in and fix her son. He can't be fixed. He can't be understood or accommodated. He has to be removed and kept somewhere safe.

Actually it sounds like there isn't anywhere safe for her to send him. He's a danger to himself, his brothers, and himself. Not to mention the others at school. She had the sense to move him from 'gifted' classes to self-contained behavior disordered classes, though little teaching goes on in those classes, thus she referred to babysitting.

Institutions that existed prior to the 1960's certainly left much to be desired, rather than improving, they were closed. When that meant mentally ill children, particularly violent children, the problem was dumped on the home. At 18 or even earlier, many stopped taking their meds, eventually leaving home and many our now the homeless.

Sending a 13 year old, mentally ill boy to a juvenile detention complex doesn't seem the right choice for most. If though he managed to carry through with his threats in 2 or 3 years, he'll be treated as an 'adult.' That is certainly wrong.

I teach a self-contained class with autistic students and i can assure you that there is instruction every period of the day.

 

[eots]

Mental Health Research

Psychopathology

Last year, the team showed that artists and scientists were more common among families where bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is present, compared to the population at large. They subsequently expanded their study to many more psychiatric diagnoses -- such as schizoaffective disorder, depression, anxiety syndrome, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, autism, ADHD, anorexia nervosa and suicide -- and to include people in outpatient care rather than exclusively hospital patients.
The present study tracked almost 1.2 million patients and their relatives, identified down to second-cousin level. Since all were matched with healthy controls, the study incorporated much of the Swedish population from the most recent decades. All data was anonymized and cannot be linked to any individuals.
The results confirmed those of their previous study, that certain mental illness -- bipolar disorder -- is more prevalent in the entire group of people with artistic or scientific professions, such as dancers, researchers, photographers and authors. Authors also specifically were more common among most of the other psychiatric diseases (including schizophrenia, depression, anxiety syndrome and substance abuse) and were almost 50 per cent more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
Further, the researchers observed that creative professions were more common in the relatives of patients with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa and, to some extent, autism. According to Simon Kyaga, Consultant in psychiatry and Doctoral Student at the Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, the results give cause to reconsider approaches to mental illness.

Link between creativity and mental illness confirmed in large-scale Swedish study

I know many creative people in my community, eots. More of them are solid citizens, civil, hard-working, and productive citizens who give a lot of time to community benefits as well as work at day jobs. Sweden is in the land of the midnight sun belt. That has another side--short, short days in the winter with several days of near unending nights a couple of weeks a year. That would produce a lot of "seasonal affective disorder" with people who do not pay astute attention to bright lights indoors for at least 12 hours a day. I'm going to say Sweden's results might not have a par with people who live in the subtropics and tropics, possibly reflecting people so preoccupied with their work they forget about turning the lights up.

Or maybe I'm wrong and that was taken into account.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLNMEXWTL8]Vitamin D is better than ANY vaccine and increases the immune system by 3-5 times - YouTube[/ame]

 

[April]

Mental Health Research

Psychopathology

Last year, the team showed that artists and scientists were more common among families where bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is present, compared to the population at large. They subsequently expanded their study to many more psychiatric diagnoses -- such as schizoaffective disorder, depression, anxiety syndrome, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, autism, ADHD, anorexia nervosa and suicide -- and to include people in outpatient care rather than exclusively hospital patients.
The present study tracked almost 1.2 million patients and their relatives, identified down to second-cousin level. Since all were matched with healthy controls, the study incorporated much of the Swedish population from the most recent decades. All data was anonymized and cannot be linked to any individuals.
The results confirmed those of their previous study, that certain mental illness -- bipolar disorder -- is more prevalent in the entire group of people with artistic or scientific professions, such as dancers, researchers, photographers and authors. Authors also specifically were more common among most of the other psychiatric diseases (including schizophrenia, depression, anxiety syndrome and substance abuse) and were almost 50 per cent more likely to commit suicide than the general population.
Further, the researchers observed that creative professions were more common in the relatives of patients with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, anorexia nervosa and, to some extent, autism. According to Simon Kyaga, Consultant in psychiatry and Doctoral Student at the Department of Medical Epidemiology and Biostatistics, the results give cause to reconsider approaches to mental illness.

Link between creativity and mental illness confirmed in large-scale Swedish study

I know many creative people in my community, eots. More of them are solid citizens, civil, hard-working, and productive citizens who give a lot of time to community benefits as well as work at day jobs. Sweden is in the land of the midnight sun belt. That has another side--short, short days in the winter with several days of near unending nights a couple of weeks a year. That would produce a lot of "seasonal affective disorder" with people who do not pay astute attention to bright lights indoors for at least 12 hours a day. I'm going to say Sweden's results might not have a par with people who live in the subtropics and tropics, possibly reflecting people so preoccupied with their work they forget about turning the lights up.

Or maybe I'm wrong and that was taken into account.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLNMEXWTL8]Vitamin D is better than ANY vaccine and increases the immune system by 3-5 times - YouTube[/ame]

I have no doubt that homeopathic remedies and the proper nutrition make a HUGE difference in mental and emotional health...my mom tried that with my brother...it only helped to a certain degree. He STILL needed his meds to help him cope with his illness.

 

[mal]

he was 20 years old folks.

legally she couldnt do something without his co operation

She could have better secured her fire-arms, if that was a problem, she should have removed them from her home.

Training him to Shoot was probably a Poor Choice also...



peace...

 

[April]

This thread is filled with bigots...I can't believe you guys are demonizing those suffering from mental disorders.

Answer me this Aristotle; how many mentally ill did you live with and practially raised as your own?
I lived this my brothers entire existence...he's a ticking time bomb and if he doesn't control it with the proper meds hes prescribed, he will be the next we read about shooting up a school or mall.

 

[Politico]

Drugs drugs drugs drugs.......

 

[eots]

I know many creative people in my community, eots. More of them are solid citizens, civil, hard-working, and productive citizens who give a lot of time to community benefits as well as work at day jobs. Sweden is in the land of the midnight sun belt. That has another side--short, short days in the winter with several days of near unending nights a couple of weeks a year. That would produce a lot of "seasonal affective disorder" with people who do not pay astute attention to bright lights indoors for at least 12 hours a day. I'm going to say Sweden's results might not have a par with people who live in the subtropics and tropics, possibly reflecting people so preoccupied with their work they forget about turning the lights up.

Or maybe I'm wrong and that was taken into account.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLNMEXWTL8]Vitamin D is better than ANY vaccine and increases the immune system by 3-5 times - YouTube[/ame]

I have no doubt that homeopathic remedies and the proper nutrition make a HUGE difference in mental and emotional health...my mom tried that with my brother...it only helped to a certain degree. He STILL needed his meds to help him cope with his illness.

I posted this in regards to your comments on sunshine...if your brother has been on psych drugs he does now indeed them to remain stable but this does not mean they are the correct treatment..it only,means he is now addicted to the drug and will relapse on withdraw if not done very slowly..I have never seen anyone cured from medications ..I have seen several cured with orthomolecular medicine..which is not homeopathic remedies


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[eots]

It is anecdotal to say your brother "needs his medication"...if he suddenly discontinues he will indeed suffer effects from the withdraw..but that is not evidence of needing the medication...or the so called medications as being the correct or best treatment for what is causing these behaviors

 

[April]

Can Antidepressants Cause Violence? - YouTube

Most of the time these people are prescribed antideppresensants...they DONT take them.
So to blame the medication for the uprise of violence among the mentally ill, is not founded.
How can the medication be to blame if it's not taken as prescribed?

 

[eots]

Can Antidepressants Cause Violence? - YouTube

Most of the time these people are prescribed antideppresensants...they DONT take them.
So to blame the medication for the uprise of violence among the mentally ill, is not founded.
How can the medication be to blame if it's not taken as prescribed?

fail...these facts come from controlled clinical trials by both the drug companies and independent controlled studies

 

[Noomi]

The mentally ill should be removed and placed somewhere where they cannot harm others. This mother wants someone to step in and fix her son. He can't be fixed. He can't be understood or accommodated. He has to be removed and kept somewhere safe.

I see your point, but removing a child from his parents could do more harm than good in the long run.

 

[Skull Pilot]

he was 20 years old folks.

legally she couldnt do something without his co operation

People can be committed against their will.

 

[Annie]

he was 20 years old folks.

legally she couldnt do something without his co operation

People can be committed against their will.

Just try. If one can get a 72 hour commitment they are lucky and that is after they've attempted something that makes them a threat to themselves or others.

 

[Skull Pilot]

he was 20 years old folks.

legally she couldnt do something without his co operation

People can be committed against their will.

Just try. If one can get a 72 hour commitment they are lucky and that is after they've attempted something that makes them a threat to themselves or others.

Not the point.

The mother had the legal ability to commit her son without his permission.