If they agree with me. 2012 is now the date for an Iraqi Army to stand up on its own. When will this date be moved even farther away? http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-flairaqarmy0330sbmar30,0,3973886.story This is what you get when you let civilians idealogues ruin a war. To get posted to Iraq, you had to pass the Bush Loyalty quiz and be Republican. Even you stance on abortion was vetted. Lots of money to be made if you know the right people.