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    We all heard about the GAO report on government duplication that just came out yesterday.

    U.S. GAO - Opportunities to Reduce Potential Duplication in Government Programs, Save Tax Dollars, and Enhance Revenue

    But did you know that the government actually has 82 different programs to improve teacher quality?

    Federal Government's Duplicate Programs Make Dupes Out of Taxpayers - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

    If that does not boggle your mind you know for a fact that you are a liberal progressive.
     
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    The Govt is a fat bloated pig. Its time to slice and dice big time.
     
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    Yes? And? How's that working out? Where does the US stand in the educational world ranking? Tell's me we've pissed a lot of money away and it wasn't spent on educating the children either, it was spent on building a political machine.
     
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    While this example is at the Federal level, the same problems exist at the state and local level, and here is where the issue with public unions meshes into the whole topic of excessive state/local spending.

    The concept of a sustained budget, where items are automatically carried over (often with a set increase of 2%-5%) regardless of if they are still needed or not creates government departments that often have outlived thier usefulness, or have even been replaced by another, but are still staffed and funded. Removing them takes a dedicated effort to defund, and either remove or reassign the personnel involved.

    This is where collective bargaining for public employees comes in. Between work rules negoitated into the contract, as well as bloated and complicated grievence procedures, it is often easier to leave the outdated department intact, then try to eliminate it and reassign/lay off the superflous workers in said department.

    Giving an example, say you have 5 different layers of local government that look after tenants in poor income housing. each department gets its budget. Now you want to consolidate the departments, maybe reduce staff, as you have noted there is severe overlap in what each is doing. Well, at that point the people involve resist being reassigned, file grievences via the union, and then probably get thier media contacts to decry these "Terrible cuts to people who can afford it the least" Then they lay pressure on the local politicians, who at that point will likely tell whoever is trying to streamline the budget/services to lay off fixing the problem.
     
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    Federal government has set “more than 20 federal agencies providing about 56 programs” related to financial literacy


    Unbelievable
     
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    The federal bureaucracy is just like the Borg. You can eliminate one part but it just replicates itself again and again. This is not a case where you need to take a surgical tool to the problem. What we need is a big hammer and attack chunks of the bureacracy at a time.
     
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    • 342 economic development programs;
    • 130 programs serving the disabled;
    • 130 programs serving at-risk youth;
    • 90 early childhood development programs;
    • 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities;
    • 72 federal programs dedicated to assuring safe water;
    • 50 homeless assistance programs;
    • 45 federal agencies conducting federal criminal investigations;
    • 40 separate employment and training programs;
    • 28 rural development programs;
    • 27 teen pregnancy programs;
    • 26 small, extraneous K-12 school grant programs;
    • 23 agencies providing aid to the former Soviet republics;
    • 19 programs fighting substance abuse;
    • 17 rural water and waste-water programs in eight agencies;
    • 17 trade agencies monitoring 400 international trade agreements;
    • 12 food safety agencies;
    • 11 principal statistics agencies; and
    • Four overlapping land management agencies.[20]
    Top 10 Examples of Government Waste | The Heritage Foundation
     
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    I know what to say.

    This is why there is such a pitched battle in WI to preserve collective bargaining. The majority of America is waking up to the way we have been used and abused by Big Government Cronyism, and we've had enough. They want to keep legal mechanisms in place that make reduction virtually impossible.

    Witness the inane debate to try to cut $61B out of $3.8T in spending for this year. This is the equivalent of a middle class person saving money by making coffee at home instead of buying a Starbucks Latte every morning. Yet, the Big Government Promoters claim it will be the end of civilization.
     
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    They're about as efficient as a square wheel. It's not difficult to understand why most people don't want to send their tax money in to Washington.
     

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