I have two bones to pick with you guys. One for the left and one on the right.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Grampa Murked U, Feb 24, 2012.

  1. Grampa Murked U
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    We'll start with the left.

    All the hate and mockery topics about Santorum and his religious beliefs. You scream about tolerance in all areas until a devout Christian speaks his mind. He has made it clear they are his beliefs and that is the extent of it. But you all post hate topics non stop. I'm not a believer but I am of the mind that to each his own. Many of you on the other hand can't seem to grasp the hypocrisy of your positions.

    Now the right....

    We have both soldiers and captives (in Egypt) in harms way. Yet many of you are all to happy to jump on the Obama is a fuck up bandwagon and critique or even slam the way he is dealing with the holy book situation. Lives are at stake and NO ONE knows if the way he is handling it may end up saving lives or torture of captives. We have plenty of reasons to want Obama out and this isn't one of them.

    Playing in the mud can be fun on here but to me both of these issues are over the top when they are addressed in such a frivolous manner.
     
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    I do not believe in any god or afterlife.
    However True Christians are fine folks.
    People that use religion for their own personal gains are scum.
     
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    We tried to elevate the culture of this board.

    You saw how far it went.

    Members here are human, all too human. Maybe someone will be a bit more adult for a second after reading this. But I am not holding my breath
     
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    SOME members in here are, on a good day, BORDERLINE human. People without integrity and accountability and core values and core beliefs and conscience are "fringe" humans. People without any of those traits who are also HYPOCRITES are dangerous, because they are sociopaths who should not be allowed to "mingle" with the rest of us.
     
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    President Obama IS a fuck up.

    There were ALWAYS lives at stake and that would be true even if we had no military there and no hostages there.

    The "apology" is dangerously misguided.

    To criticize him over it is not to play politics. It is to criticize him, as we have the right to do, in the hope that maybe he will start to buy a clue sooner or later. It is one thing to be just wrong. It is another thing to be dangerously, stupidly and avoidably wrong.
     
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    -Sam Harris
    Letter to a Christian Nation
     
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    About your second point -

    Obama in 2012
    Elizabeth Warren in 2016
     
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    In my opinion I don't consider his position or my opinion of it dangerously stupid. And while you are correct about the people in harms way the soldiers get paid for the risk. The others not so much. And we haven't even touched on the topic of public perception.
     
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    Ah, but the issue is not whether you disagree. The question you were asking still boils down to what others believe (as the motivation behind what they say and write). For example, I do maintain that what he has said IS dangerously stupid.

    And I don't care if soldiers/marines etc get "paid" to be in harm's way. That's no justification for saying stupid shit that increases the danger to which they are exposed.

    I am not grokking your last comment about "public perception."
     
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    I deffinetly agree ith Gramp on Santorum, but I disagree with him on Obama. I don't like Obama's appeasment tactics, because they make America weaker in the long run. In my opinion the criticism is warranted.
     
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