I have an offer for all you Job Creators

But wait....there's more: Say a wealthy guy like Steve Wynn dislocates his shoulder patting himself on the back for creating 250K jobs in Las Vegas. But Wall St. and banks cause unemployment to shoot up to the highest level in the nation.

All those created jobs are lost and then some. Wynn doesn't get credit for jobs that are now gone....he must create more than 250K jobs to get the tax savings back.

Job losses due to natural disasters like Sandy must be made up, too. That is what patriotic Americans do.

Personally, I think a 20% rate on all holdings by the wealthy and brokerages and banks would be simpler. Use it or fork over 1/5th. That shouild get some of the trillions being withheld flowing.

Regards from Rosie
 
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Since Republicans have deemed that we can no longer call the wealthiest Americans rich, but must refer to them as "job creators"

How about instead of a MASSIVE 4% tax increase across the board for the richest 2%....Those who can actually demonstrate that they have created jobs get no tax increase

Those in the richest 2% who cannot demonstrate that they are creating jobs face an 8% tax increase

How about cutting the taxes on these "Job Creaters" first by 5% for one year. If the business creates jobs because of it, it stays at 5%. If not then their tax goes up 10%.

I don't know what the tax percentage is now, so let's say it's 35%. They get a tax cut for one year of 5% taking it down to 30%. If after 1 year, the business creates enough jobs to cover the 5% or more, the business stays at 30%. If the business doesn't create jobs, then their tax rate jumps to 40% and stays there.

Let's go further.

If a business after 1 year creates jobs with the tax decrease, every year after the first, that business gets an additional tax cut of 1% per year for 5 years, eventually taking their tax rate to 25%. If that business continues to create jobs or stays pat with their employees, the tax stays at 25%.

If a business gets down to the 25% tax rate but after a year they start laying people off or they reduce their workforce, they jump back up to 30% for one year. If after that 1 year, the business creates jobs, they start getting the 1% decrease per year for 5 years. If the business doesn't create jobs still at 30%, their tax rate jumps to 40%.

All business at the 40% tax rate has 1 year to start hiring again. If they start to hire and increase their work force, then the tax will drop down to 30% and a 1% decrease every year for 5 years.

Would that work?
 
The motivation can't be revenue. Even the most offensive taxes aimed at the "rich" will be just a drop in the bucket. It must be about punishment. Mentally deficient radical lefties have been programed by rich democrats to be little soldiers in the war against capitalism.

Who are these rich democrats that program us? Turn on the radio and all you hear is hate from the right. Probably 100 to 1 ratio in hours of right wing radio hours vs liberal radio hours. Right after Romney got creamed in the election, Bain controlled Clear Channel turned KPOJ Portland Radio from liberal talk to sports. And this station had plenty of listeners. The next very popular progressive station on the chopping block is Seattle. Too much truth won't be tolerated by the ones who control the Media. People like the Kochs and Peter Petersons fund big organizations that influence how you guys on the right think. You right wingers are the ones that are programmed. Liberals programmed? You're just a magpie repeating what you hear.

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turn off the radio, problem solved
 
I'd like it if government didn't interfere with labor/management talks.

You know, 100 burly guys..asking one overpaid executive for a raise?

That would be fun.

:D

So you approve of thugs beating people up? Actually, that's classic Democrat policy, just like they practice in Somalia, only here the thugs are all government employees.
 
The motivation can't be revenue. Even the most offensive taxes aimed at the "rich" will be just a drop in the bucket. It must be about punishment. Mentally deficient radical lefties have been programed by rich democrats to be little soldiers in the war against capitalism.

Cutting back on food stamps would be a drop in the bucket also. Does that mean food stamps should be off the table? Cutting back on Medicaid would be a drop in the bucket; should Medicaid be off the table? Cutting back on Medicare would be a drop in the bucket; should Medicare be off the table?
 
Since Republicans have deemed that we can no longer call the wealthiest Americans rich, but must refer to them as "job creators"

How about instead of a MASSIVE 4% tax increase across the board for the richest 2%....Those who can actually demonstrate that they have created jobs get no tax increase

Those in the richest 2% who cannot demonstrate that they are creating jobs face an 8% tax increase
If we can add to that offer any government program that has been operating in the red for say five year's or more get's it's budget slashed till it shows it can run in the black and any program that no longer really serves any legitimate purpose is ended outright.

Government is not allowed to operate on a profit
 
Since Republicans have deemed that we can no longer call the wealthiest Americans rich, but must refer to them as "job creators"

How about instead of a MASSIVE 4% tax increase across the board for the richest 2%....Those who can actually demonstrate that they have created jobs get no tax increase

Those in the richest 2% who cannot demonstrate that they are creating jobs face an 8% tax increase

How about cutting the taxes on these "Job Creaters" first by 5% for one year. If the business creates jobs because of it, it stays at 5%. If not then their tax goes up 10%.

I don't know what the tax percentage is now, so let's say it's 35%. They get a tax cut for one year of 5% taking it down to 30%. If after 1 year, the business creates enough jobs to cover the 5% or more, the business stays at 30%. If the business doesn't create jobs, then their tax rate jumps to 40% and stays there.

Let's go further.

If a business after 1 year creates jobs with the tax decrease, every year after the first, that business gets an additional tax cut of 1% per year for 5 years, eventually taking their tax rate to 25%. If that business continues to create jobs or stays pat with their employees, the tax stays at 25%.

If a business gets down to the 25% tax rate but after a year they start laying people off or they reduce their workforce, they jump back up to 30% for one year. If after that 1 year, the business creates jobs, they start getting the 1% decrease per year for 5 years. If the business doesn't create jobs still at 30%, their tax rate jumps to 40%.

All business at the 40% tax rate has 1 year to start hiring again. If they start to hire and increase their work force, then the tax will drop down to 30% and a 1% decrease every year for 5 years.

Would that work?

That's the idea

Why give tax cuts and hope some of it trickles down. Show you are creating jobs and you pay the lowest rates
 
So, if you're a business owner, and you're right at the top tax bracket, but,

you have a chance to add 10 employees and increase your taxable profit by 100,000 dollars,

are you really NOT going to do that because you'll pay 39% tax instead of 35% tax?

Are you really going to leave 61,000 dollars on the table because it can't be 65,000 dollars?

Someone rational explain to us how this small tax increase causes a business not to hire...
 
But wait....there's more: Say a wealthy guy like Steve Wynn dislocates his shoulder patting himself on the back for creating 250K jobs in Las Vegas. But Wall St. and banks cause unemployment to shoot up to the highest level in the nation.

All those created jobs are lost and then some. Wynn doesn't get credit for jobs that are now gone....he must create more than 250K jobs to get the tax savings back.

Job losses due to natural disasters like Sandy must be made up, too. That is what patriotic Americans do.

Personally, I think a 20% rate on all holdings by the wealthy and brokerages and banks would be simpler. Use it or fork over 1/5th. That shouild get some of the trillions being withheld flowing.

Regards from Rosie

Do you realize that over extending by banks, government, big business, small business and consumers, led to the collapse of 2008? Government chastised bank and business for not saving and having a cash reserve, now, you want us to go back to what made the mess?
 
Since Republicans have deemed that we can no longer call the wealthiest Americans rich, but must refer to them as "job creators"

How about instead of a MASSIVE 4% tax increase across the board for the richest 2%....Those who can actually demonstrate that they have created jobs get no tax increase

Those in the richest 2% who cannot demonstrate that they are creating jobs face an 8% tax increase

How about cutting the taxes on these "Job Creaters" first by 5% for one year. If the business creates jobs because of it, it stays at 5%. If not then their tax goes up 10%.

I don't know what the tax percentage is now, so let's say it's 35%. They get a tax cut for one year of 5% taking it down to 30%. If after 1 year, the business creates enough jobs to cover the 5% or more, the business stays at 30%. If the business doesn't create jobs, then their tax rate jumps to 40% and stays there.

Let's go further.

If a business after 1 year creates jobs with the tax decrease, every year after the first, that business gets an additional tax cut of 1% per year for 5 years, eventually taking their tax rate to 25%. If that business continues to create jobs or stays pat with their employees, the tax stays at 25%.

If a business gets down to the 25% tax rate but after a year they start laying people off or they reduce their workforce, they jump back up to 30% for one year. If after that 1 year, the business creates jobs, they start getting the 1% decrease per year for 5 years. If the business doesn't create jobs still at 30%, their tax rate jumps to 40%.

All business at the 40% tax rate has 1 year to start hiring again. If they start to hire and increase their work force, then the tax will drop down to 30% and a 1% decrease every year for 5 years.

Would that work?

that's already been done for the past 10 or so years....

trickle down is still voodoo economics

0915 Taxes and Economy
 
So, if you're a business owner, and you're right at the top tax bracket, but,

you have a chance to add 10 employees and increase your taxable profit by 100,000 dollars,

are you really NOT going to do that because you'll pay 39% tax instead of 35% tax?

Are you really going to leave 61,000 dollars on the table because it can't be 65,000 dollars?

Someone rational explain to us how this small tax increase causes a business not to hire...
I don't think any explanation will be forthcoming.
 
That 4% increase in taxes could run into hundreds of thousands of dollars. You might peg it at $4,000 but that doesn't make it true. A 4% increase in taxes could prevent not only the hiring of several people, but causing the lay offs of those that did have a job.
 
That 4% increase in taxes could run into hundreds of thousands of dollars. You might peg it at $4,000 but that doesn't make it true. A 4% increase in taxes could prevent not only the hiring of several people, but causing the lay offs of those that did have a job.

The number of employees you have is based on the demand for your service or product. Employee salaries are deducted as a business expense. You will not lay off employees if the demand is still there.....THAT is where you lose profit
 
Obama/Democrats have increased the national debt by over 5.6 trillion.. yah lets trust them to know exactly what their doing...

Economically....Hows the country better off than it was 5 years ago?
 
But wait....there's more: Say a wealthy guy like Steve Wynn dislocates his shoulder patting himself on the back for creating 250K jobs in Las Vegas. But Wall St. and banks cause unemployment to shoot up to the highest level in the nation.

All those created jobs are lost and then some. Wynn doesn't get credit for jobs that are now gone....he must create more than 250K jobs to get the tax savings back.

Job losses due to natural disasters like Sandy must be made up, too. That is what patriotic Americans do.

Personally, I think a 20% rate on all holdings by the wealthy and brokerages and banks would be simpler. Use it or fork over 1/5th. That shouild get some of the trillions being withheld flowing.

Regards from Rosie

Do you realize that over extending by banks, government, big business, small business and consumers, led to the collapse of 2008? Government chastised bank and business for not saving and having a cash reserve, now, you want us to go back to what made the mess?

They are overdoing it the other way....with a political agenda. Wall St. and banks want to go back to what made the mess: loads of deregulation and lack of oversight. They are holding excess funds hostage to get deregulated again.

And if Romney had won they would have had it by the first 100 days, too. A HUGE Wal-Mart style regulation rollback would be wrapping up by the end of March.

So...do YOU want to be involuntarily drug back there?

Regards from Rosie
 
Obama/Democrats have increased the national debt by over 5.6 trillion.. yah lets trust them to know exactly what their doing...

Economically....Hows the country better off than it was 5 years ago?

That is horrible..

What exactly did they spend 5.6 trillion on besides Republican policies of tax cuts to Job Creators and Republican Wars?
 

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