I guess stealing the buffalo and the land wasn't enough

Originally posted by SinisterMotives
Sure, the commercials all say "Ask your doctor if Brand X is right for you." But how would you know to ask your doctor that if you don't know whether you have the symptoms Brand X is supposed to alleviate? And keep in mind that abusing legitimately prescribed drugs is just as popular as abusing illicit drugs and herbs nowadays. In fact, I get 10 spam e-mails a day telling me how easily I can get prescription pain relievers over the Internet, and I don't have a legitimate need for them.
For goodness sake, then don't buy them! And who goes to a doctor to get a specific medicine? And what doctor doesn't ask for the symptoms of your problem before prescribing? If these feeble minded consumers are as ignorant as you say after seeing these commercials they shouldn't be able to fake having the symptoms required, should they.

If all people were as malleable as you suggest, why is anything legal and without federal approvals? I mean just living can lead to abusive behavior. Perhaps chocolate cake, which has to be the most easily available substance on earth and affordable too, should be illegal to keep the obese from obtaining it?

Absurd? Yes, just like the supposed connection between casinos and drug dealers.
 
Originally posted by Moi
Absurd? Yes, just like the supposed connection between casinos and drug dealers.

Yeah. Like I said, it was all tongue-in-cheek. We now return you to your regularly scheduled concretism. :)
 
But it also lists gambling as a problem for the tribes. It makes me wonder if these casinos aren't just abusing the tribe to get a break. Are the casinos owned by the tribe or private individuals? Do the casinos bay taxes to the tribe?
 
Why shouldn't Indian casinos have to pay taxes like any other profit-making business?

The separate nation concept for Native Americans is a form of apartheid, and promotes a perspective of them as separate from other Americans. Another aspect of the "hyphenated" Americanism which causes devisiveness and hatred.
 
Originally posted by wonderwench
Why shouldn't Indian casinos have to pay taxes like any other profit-making business?

The separate nation concept for Native Americans is a form of apartheid, and promotes a perspective of them as separate from other Americans. Another aspect of the "hyphenated" Americanism which causes devisiveness and hatred.

It may look like Apartheid in retrospect, but that wasn't the intent behind it. The Indian nations were an attempt to guarantee that Natives would have lands that couldn't be taken away from them. It was sort of an act of atonement on the part of the government.
 
I'm aware of the origin of Indian reservations - but just believe they have outlived their purpose and that the concept itself has damaged Indians.

We live in the Information Age. Being integrated into society as a whole would be more beneficial to any American than to live on a reservation. Despite the fact that a few tribes have been able to become quite wealthy via gaming, poverty and ill-education are indemic in most reservations.
 
I absolutely agree with wonderwench. I don't understand how there can be two sets of laws in this land: one for American Indians (with which I share part of my heritage, BTW), and one for the rest of us. Absolutely against the doctrine that "all men are created equal." Now this is the point where everyone starts lecturing me about how the Founding Fathers were slaveholders, etc. I don't really care. The doctrine that they based our entire system of government on has been the guiding principle in the abolishment of slavery, equal rights for all races, and the right to vote for all citizens 18 and older. To say that American Indians are subject to a "separate, but equal" system of laws is, IMO, insulting to both American Indians and non-AI's.

One country, one set of laws. Period.
 
Just to clarify, the reservations were set up for the native americans because they were declared 'domestic dependent nations'. That had a twofold reason, number one being so that they had zero say in how the US government affected the way they ran the beginning states and nation and number two was for the natives to continue living with their own rules and laws on the reservation to keep the natives and the white settlers continually seperated.
 
Originally posted by gop_jeff
I absolutely agree with wonderwench. I don't understand how there can be two sets of laws in this land: one for American Indians (with which I share part of my heritage, BTW), and one for the rest of us. Absolutely against the doctrine that "all men are created equal." Now this is the point where everyone starts lecturing me about how the Founding Fathers were slaveholders, etc. I don't really care. The doctrine that they based our entire system of government on has been the guiding principle in the abolishment of slavery, equal rights for all races, and the right to vote for all citizens 18 and older. To say that American Indians are subject to a "separate, but equal" system of laws is, IMO, insulting to both American Indians and non-AI's.

One country, one set of laws. Period.
Absolutemont, to both of you. Mind you, I extend that to all people in this country...not just indians.
 
I used to work at the river boat casino here in clinton as a security supervisor. it had its pro's and con's jsut like every job does. and yes there are people who come in and dump a lifes savings there. tough shit, that is why its called gambling. but ive seen it the other way too. i seen some lady dump in 50 bucks into an elvis machine and win 110,000! that was cool.
then there are the die-hards. the old timers that come in and will play no matter what. we had a old guy come in and while he was playing, had a heart attack! while the EMT's and para's were trying to do thier job, this old cat kept trying to pump quarters into the machines....lol
 
Originally posted by nbdysfu
They recently made a remote betting parlor for the local horsetrack because they saw an untapped market in my locale's inner city. [/B]

So whats the issue? There was a legal business set up in an "untapped market" If you dont drink do you also resent bars and restaraunts? Drugs are illegal period. Making a pari-mutual wager on a race is not illegal.
 
Federal Treaties, made between the Federal government, and nations, including nations that are within our borders, are exempt from the rule of states.

The issues of Native Nations rights, vs. states rights has been settled in many Federal courts.
Always, the Federal jurisprudence prevails.

States do not have any power to treat with Nations. Funny that the state legislatures continue to ignore the protocol. They continue to be overrulled.
 

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