I get so tired of the myth of "American exceptionalism"

[my2¢]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Capitalism is wonderful but it isn't the cure all that doesn't have problems of its own, just recall Enron. Teddy Roosevelt took care of many of them. FDR went overboard taking care of others. Whether it be capitalism or the welfare state, with either our potential is limited by those with intention of gaming the system.

 

[Unkotare]

Superior is not the same as exceptional. Exceptional implies we are some how fundamentally different from other nations and we should look and act a different way than them.

America is objectively superior to every nation in most aspects beyond the efficacy of our healthcare system.

We are pretty fucking awesome relative to everyone else, that famous rant on Sorkins news show was all off.

We have the best hospitals, military, land, colleges, and theoretically guaranteed civil liberties of any nation small or large. We're the largest economy on the planet (and will be for the foreseeable future unless the Chinese start breeding again) with very high per capita income. And IMO most importantly we are an extremely insular economy. The whole world could collapse economically.....Only ~15% of GDP is from exports, if anything all the domestic growth would probably make us larger than we ever were. It would be chaos, but we'd grow because our land is so fucking good we can do it all at home.

America has the worst hospitals and colleges among any of the developed nations. Americans aren't free to do anything, you want freedom go to the netherlands. The american economy is almost completely due to the fact that America was the only standing country after WW2 and as you notice with your wierdly racist joke about the chinese breeding, America is slowly falling to number two and will be number 3 behind India soon enough. America only has a large military because it spends literally more on it than every other country combined. Instead of colleges hospitals and things like infrastrucre something that americans haven't invested since the 1960's and is comparable to the 3rd world

America is also one the most racist sexist homphobic countries on earth, try asking anyone but a straight white wealthy christian male how much they love america for a change

What a pile of abject lies. The above post is ridiculously wrong on all points. ^^^^^

 

[Mac1958]

Average joe republicans love to talk about America being the the best country in the world. It's so nauseating.

Now don't get me wrong - there's a lot of great things about America. The founding fathers were of course great. It's just stupid to assume it's "exceptional" now in today's age.

The problem is the delusion that our nation is better than every other nation on Earth in every aspect. What I find the most nauseating is that republicans delude themselves into thinking they are superior to people of other nations. Republicans are stupid, mostly uneducated, bigoted, and worship Trump. People of other countries laugh at people like this, but pathetically, republicans think foreigners are simply jealous of them. I mean republicans do NOTHING to contribute to what makes America good. They sure has hell had no place in shaping what America is today. They for some bizarre reason think they are an extension of Lincoln or Reagan even though they are really just degenerates.

America sucks in many ways and it's a waste of time to educate delusional, stupid people like republicans of this fact.

For you to write a post like that and call someone else "bigoted" is, well....

It's USMB, I guess.
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[imawhosure]

Average joe republicans love to talk about America being the the best country in the world. It's so nauseating.

Now don't get me wrong - there's a lot of great things about America. The founding fathers were of course great. It's just stupid to assume it's "exceptional" now in today's age.

The problem is the delusion that our nation is better than every other nation on Earth in every aspect. What I find the most nauseating is that republicans delude themselves into thinking they are superior to people of other nations. Republicans are stupid, mostly uneducated, bigoted, and worship Trump. People of other countries laugh at people like this, but pathetically, republicans think foreigners are simply jealous of them. I mean republicans do NOTHING to contribute to what makes America good. They sure has hell had no place in shaping what America is today. They for some bizarre reason think they are an extension of Lincoln or Reagan even though they are really just degenerates.

America sucks in many ways and it's a waste of time to educate delusional, stupid people like republicans of this fact.

For you to write a post like that and call someone else "bigoted" is, well....

It's USMB, I guess.
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His rant is so off the rails Mac, it is a joke. We are bigoted ? Then, pray tell; is everybody and their brother trying to get in here illegally if need be, then import all their relatives later!

People ask how fake news and false facts are created? The OP author is a perfect example, and imagine if he/she was a left wing journalist.

Oh wait, most journalists are left wing, in fact FAR left wing, so that kind of explains it all.


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[martybegan]

Average joe republicans love to talk about America being the the best country in the world. It's so nauseating.

Now don't get me wrong - there's a lot of great things about America. The founding fathers were of course great. It's just stupid to assume it's "exceptional" now in today's age.

The problem is the delusion that our nation is better than every other nation on Earth in every aspect. What I find the most nauseating is that republicans delude themselves into thinking they are superior to people of other nations. Republicans are stupid, mostly uneducated, bigoted, and worship Trump. People of other countries laugh at people like this, but pathetically, republicans think foreigners are simply jealous of them. I mean republicans do NOTHING to contribute to what makes America good. They sure has hell had no place in shaping what America is today. They for some bizarre reason think they are an extension of Lincoln or Reagan even though they are really just degenerates.

America sucks in many ways and it's a waste of time to educate delusional, stupid people like republicans of this fact.

To you america would be better if its government got to put it's boot on everyone's head, forever, as seen in Orwell's 1984.

"America sucks because it just isn't fucking with its people enough"

 

[The Original Tree]

You could always experiment with Cuban Exceptionalism and move there and report back to us what you find after say 3 or 4 decades of living there.

Bye Bye.
Don't let the door hit you in your Fat Jihadi Ass on the way out.

 

[martybegan]

Superior is not the same as exceptional. Exceptional implies we are some how fundamentally different from other nations and we should look and act a different way than them.

America is objectively superior to every nation in most aspects beyond the efficacy of our healthcare system.

We are pretty fucking awesome relative to everyone else, that famous rant on Sorkins news show was all off.

We have the best hospitals, military, land, colleges, and theoretically guaranteed civil liberties of any nation small or large. We're the largest economy on the planet (and will be for the foreseeable future unless the Chinese start breeding again) with very high per capita income. And IMO most importantly we are an extremely insular economy. The whole world could collapse economically.....Only ~15% of GDP is from exports, if anything all the domestic growth would probably make us larger than we ever were. It would be chaos, but we'd grow because our land is so fucking good we can do it all at home.

America has the worst hospitals and colleges among any of the developed nations. Americans aren't free to do anything, you want freedom go to the netherlands. The american economy is almost completely due to the fact that America was the only standing country after WW2 and as you notice with your wierdly racist joke about the chinese breeding, America is slowly falling to number two and will be number 3 behind India soon enough. America only has a large military because it spends literally more on it than every other country combined. Instead of colleges hospitals and things like infrastrucre something that americans haven't invested since the 1960's and is comparable to the 3rd world

America is also one the most racist sexist homphobic countries on earth, try asking anyone but a straight white wealthy christian male how much they love america for a change

Actually the two other countries (India, China) you listed are far more racist, sexists and homophobic, but of course you can't comprehend that.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Average joe republicans love to talk about America being the the best country in the world. It's so nauseating.

Now don't get me wrong - there's a lot of great things about America. The founding fathers were of course great. It's just stupid to assume it's "exceptional" now in today's age.

The problem is the delusion that our nation is better than every other nation on Earth in every aspect. What I find the most nauseating is that republicans delude themselves into thinking they are superior to people of other nations. Republicans are stupid, mostly uneducated, bigoted, and worship Trump. People of other countries laugh at people like this, but pathetically, republicans think foreigners are simply jealous of them. I mean republicans do NOTHING to contribute to what makes America good. They sure has hell had no place in shaping what America is today. They for some bizarre reason think they are an extension of Lincoln or Reagan even though they are really just degenerates.

America sucks in many ways and it's a waste of time to educate delusional, stupid people like republicans of this fact.

Blah blah blah troll.

 

[martybegan]

America is also one the most racist sexist homphobic countries on earth, try asking anyone but a straight white wealthy christian male how much they love america for a change

Bullshit.

says the racist sexist homophobe lol

I'm a poor white non-Christian, and I've blown dudes. Not always white either.

Sexist? Okay... women aren't real human beings, but that's a discussion for another time.

Uh oh.

 

[Juicin]

Average joe republicans love to talk about America being the the best country in the world. It's so nauseating.

Now don't get me wrong - there's a lot of great things about America. The founding fathers were of course great. It's just stupid to assume it's "exceptional" now in today's age.

The problem is the delusion that our nation is better than every other nation on Earth in every aspect. What I find the most nauseating is that republicans delude themselves into thinking they are superior to people of other nations. Republicans are stupid, mostly uneducated, bigoted, and worship Trump. People of other countries laugh at people like this, but pathetically, republicans think foreigners are simply jealous of them. I mean republicans do NOTHING to contribute to what makes America good. They sure has hell had no place in shaping what America is today. They for some bizarre reason think they are an extension of Lincoln or Reagan even though they are really just degenerates.

America sucks in many ways and it's a waste of time to educate delusional, stupid people like republicans of this fact.

For you to write a post like that and call someone else "bigoted" is, well....

It's USMB, I guess.
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His rant is so off the rails Mac, it is a joke. We are bigoted ? Then, pray tell; is everybody and their brother trying to get in here illegally if need be, then import all their relatives later!

People ask how fake news and false facts are created? The OP author is a perfect example, and imagine if he/she was a left wing journalist.

Oh wait, most journalists are left wing, in fact FAR left wing, so that kind of explains it all.


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Have you ever met a true American communist in person?

I have not

Where do you get the idea any of the left's journalists you ever read are true leftists? The opposite of Paul Ryan is a Soviet style commie from an economic perspective

The "left" of America is the center of the political spectrum.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...tical_chart.svg/220px-Political_chart.svg.png

 

[norwegen]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

 

[Juicin]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

 

[norwegen]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

Barely any land owners, yet some land owners. How many British commoners owned land?

The Seven Years' War was a global in which America was an indispensable ally. Maybe not a global power yet, but close.

And correct, government did not provide for the citizens, and they prospered.

 

[Unkotare]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

The Seven Years' War was a global in which America was an indispensable ally. Maybe not a global power yet, but close.

...

Wow. No.

 

[Juicin]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

Barely any land owners, yet some land owners. How many British commoners owned land?

The Seven Years' War was a global in which America was an indispensable ally. Maybe not a global power yet, but close.

And correct, government did not provide for the citizens, and they prospered.

WHOOOSH

As in no* land owners to fuck over the commoners, lol

America was a nation of commoners, of course it was better than slumming it in London

Doesn't mean we provided for our citizens or were a global power. Or even a nation.

edit - do you not understand the concept of living on company land, taking a wage in company currency, having company police, and shopping at company stores? The free market would have seen us all the slaves to the few men who made it early in America.

We'd all be living on their land

 

[easyt65]

I encourage anyone who does not feel the US is the best country in the world to please go find a better one and move there...if they will let you.

 

[norwegen]

America's only problem is 60 years of Socialism

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

Barely any land owners, yet some land owners. How many British commoners owned land?

The Seven Years' War was a global in which America was an indispensable ally. Maybe not a global power yet, but close.

And correct, government did not provide for the citizens, and they prospered.

WHOOOSH

As in no* land owners to fuck over the commoners, lol

America was a nation of commoners, of course it was better than slumming it in London

Doesn't mean we provided for our citizens or were a global power. Or even a nation.

edit - do you not understand the concept of living on company land, taking a wage in company currency, having company police, and shopping at company stores? The free market would have seen us all the slaves to the few men who made it early in America.

We'd all be living on their land

At any rate, as you seem to have come around to in some roundabout way, by 1640, ordinary Americans were better off than British commoners were.

And I didn't say that Colonial America was a nation. Or at least it wasn't a country. But you do realize, I hope, that in its war for independence, America defeated a global power. And then again a few short decades after its secession from the Commonwealth.

 

[Juicin]

Except we became the most powerful nation in the world with a mixed economy and public education...

So no, you're wrong

THe free market alone has never provided a decent life for the average citizen of any nation, nor has any major nation risen to geopolitical prominence with a free market economy.

By 1640, ordinary Americans were already better off than British commoners were, and they continued to prosper as the Crown remained a distant and innocuous psuedo-authority with little power to impose (when it eventually did attempt to impose beyond what the Americans would tolerate (with the Intolerable Acts), the Americans revolted). The Colonial American economy was almost entirely free-market.

So no, you're wrong.

America didn't just emerge from WWII as a superpower. It was already a world power when founded. It was republican, Christian, and a nation leery of a command economy.

"better off than British commoners" isn't saying much in 1640 lol. We barely even had our own land owners yet

Thanks tho bud

And we certainly weren't a global power then.

How you imagined that little tidbit was relevant I have no idea. America providing for it's citizens in 1640. We weren't doing that in 1900

Barely any land owners, yet some land owners. How many British commoners owned land?

The Seven Years' War was a global in which America was an indispensable ally. Maybe not a global power yet, but close.

And correct, government did not provide for the citizens, and they prospered.

WHOOOSH

As in no* land owners to fuck over the commoners, lol

America was a nation of commoners, of course it was better than slumming it in London

Doesn't mean we provided for our citizens or were a global power. Or even a nation.

edit - do you not understand the concept of living on company land, taking a wage in company currency, having company police, and shopping at company stores? The free market would have seen us all the slaves to the few men who made it early in America.

We'd all be living on their land

At any rate, as you seem to have come around to in some roundabout way, by 1640, ordinary Americans were better off than British commoners were.

And I didn't say that Colonial America was a nation. Or at least it wasn't a country. But you do realize, I hope, that in its war for independence, America defeated a global power. And then again a few short decades after its secession from the Commonwealth.

Again, I don't know if English is your first language

But better than English commoners is a relative term. "providing for their citizens" was not possible for any state in 1640. Except maybe some small island paradise

I acknowledged that in my first reply. What I didn't acknowledge was it's relevance.

Dumbass

 

[BluesLegend]

Ah, another lib meltdown thread over Trump and the 60 plus million Americans who voted him President. Look at the hate and venom that's being spewed by the left, I love it when they come out of the closet and tell us what they really think.

Who ran on "make America great again'? America has been great.

No America is FUBAR and now President Trump has to clean Obama's mess. Hell did you read what Brandon Judd, president of the border patrol agents union had to say about Obama and the FUBAR border yesterday?

"We weren’t allowed to do our job"

"Illegals who can't pay the cartels fee to cross the border, have to work it off in sex trafficking and as drug mules."

"Obama's catch and release turned illegal processing centers into gang recruitment centers, with gangs recruiting teenagers. We now have thousands of new gang members thanks to catch and release"

"Anything that could be done to tie our hands behind our backs was done"

 

[Iceweasel]

America is also one the most racist sexist homphobic countries on earth, try asking anyone but a straight white wealthy christian male how much they love america for a change

Yeah, Sport. That's why we would never elect a black man as president like all the other nations on Earth. Or why we would never listen to music by a homosexual or go to their movies. No, Iran is where you want to be for unadulterated emotionalism.

We are exceptional because we fought for and safeguarded freedoms like no where else on the planet. And provide it for others. Even for malcontents like you.