"I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say

[Modbert]

If Al Sharpton had said "I find it almost remarkable for a white man to say, "We're going to decide when equality has or has not been reached" I wonder what the reaction would be from some in this thread.

 

[goldcatt]

I just find it odd that, in a discussion about abortion, the term "black man" would even enter the conversation.

I would think that you, as a white American woman of Irish descent living in England, would agree.

I think anyone with a brain would understand his point. Anyone without said brain, would call it racist.

I didn't see anyone on this thread call it racist. Rather several of us are thinking Santorum is an idiot.

Well, that's not exactly a news flash. Santorum being an idiot, that is.

He has quite the history of this kind of thing. He should just stay away from all analogies, comparisons, historical references and aftermaths of natural disasters.

 

[Modbert]

Well, that's not exactly a news flash. Santorum being an idiot, that is.

He has quite the history of this kind of thing. He should just stay away from all analogies, comparisons, historical references and aftermaths of natural disasters.

Why did you guys ever elect him?

 

[goldcatt]

Well, that's not exactly a news flash. Santorum being an idiot, that is.

He has quite the history of this kind of thing. He should just stay away from all analogies, comparisons, historical references and aftermaths of natural disasters.

Why did you guys ever elect him?

Don't look at me!

I didn't live here then. I moved back in time to help kick his sorry freeloading carpetbagging butt out though.

 

[Modbert]

Don't look at me!

I didn't live here then. I moved back in time to help kick his sorry freeloading carpetbagging butt out though.

You're excused, this time. We'll be watching you in PA.

 

[California Girl]

I just find it odd that, in a discussion about abortion, the term "black man" would even enter the conversation.

I would think that you, as a white American woman of Irish descent living in England, would agree.

I think anyone with a brain would understand his point. Anyone without said brain, would call it racist.

I didn't see anyone on this thread call it racist. Rather several of us are thinking Santorum is an idiot.

Right winger mentions the 'black guy' and they get labeled a racist. It's common enough. I get called a racist too.

I actually don't give much thought to Santorum. Unless he decides to run for POTUS, he's welcome to say whatever, and I am at liberty to ignore it.

 

[Ravi]

I think anyone with a brain would understand his point. Anyone without said brain, would call it racist.

I didn't see anyone on this thread call it racist. Rather several of us are thinking Santorum is an idiot.

Right winger mentions the 'black guy' and they get labeled a racist. It's common enough. I get called a racist too.

I actually don't give much thought to Santorum. Unless he decides to run for POTUS, he's welcome to say whatever, and I am at liberty to ignore it.

And yet no one labeled him racist...

 

[goldcatt]

Don't look at me!

I didn't live here then. I moved back in time to help kick his sorry freeloading carpetbagging butt out though.

You're excused, this time. We'll be watching you in PA.

No worries. Considering what Pennsylvanians found out about the guy after the fact, he couldn't carry the state in a wheelbarrow.

 

[xotoxi]

There is nothing wrong with Santorum's comment.

Considering how Rep. Jackson recently wanted the original version of The Constitution which included slaves being counted as 3/5th of a person to be read on the House floor, the government deciding who counts as a "person" has extra sensitivity for those who run on a racialist agenda.

Was that changed in the Constitution and how was it changed? By an amendment?

Oh sweetie. Please look up the 13th and 14th Amendments.

The Constitution is extremely powerful as it granted black men full human status!

 

[Valerie]

I didn't see anyone on this thread call it racist. Rather several of us are thinking Santorum is an idiot.

Right winger mentions the 'black guy' and they get labeled a racist. It's common enough. I get called a racist too.

I actually don't give much thought to Santorum. Unless he decides to run for POTUS, he's welcome to say whatever, and I am at liberty to ignore it.

And yet no one labeled him racist...

I would say he is attempting use race to try and manipulate...Presumably the black man should consider the unborn child at conception as an individual person protected by the constitution, or else he must be a hypocrite, is the implication...

Or maybe he just wants to tax the fetus...?

The Three-Fifths compromise was a compromise between Southern and Northern states reached during the Philadelphia Convention of 1787 in which three-fifths of the population of slaves would be counted for enumeration purposes regarding both the distribution of taxes and the apportionment of the members of the United States House of Representatives. It was proposed by delegates James Wilson and Roger Sherman.

Delegates opposed to slavery generally wished to count only the free inhabitants of each state. Delegates supportive of slavery, on the other hand, generally wanted to count slaves in their actual numbers. Since slaves could not vote, slaveholders would thus have the benefit of increased representation in the House and the Electoral College. The final compromise of counting "all other persons" as only three-fifths of their actual numbers reduced the power of the slave states relative to the original southern proposals, but increased it over the northern position.

The three-fifths compromise is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_compromise

 

[Lonestar_logic]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.
And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Mahatma Ghandi who said, "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members."

Churchill said that you measure the degree of civilisation of a society by how it treats its weakest members.

Truman said a society will be judged by how it treats its weakest members.

"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, the littlest."
~Cardinal Roger Mahony, In a 1998 letter, Creating a Culture of Life

It is said that the worth of society can be measured by the manner in which it treats its weakest member.

"The greatness of any city can be judged by the way it treats its weakest member." You can judge the character and quality of life in a community by how it treats its weakest members

It is said that a civilization is measured by how it treats its weakest members - including, of course, it children.

The greatness of America is in how it treats its weakest members: the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, the underprivileged, the unborn.
~Bill Federer

"The test of any society is how it treats its weakest members."

"The moral test of any society is how it treats its weakest members."

"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members and among the most vulnerable are surely the unborn and the dying,"
~Pope John Paul II

If one considers the observation that the worth and dignity of a civilization is judged by the way it the treats its weakest members, we cannot help but look back in shame at our past.
~Social Justice Yesterday - Today - Tomorrow, A Critical Reflection, By Rudolf Rickes

Warren Buffet's take (more about how things should work) which I've always loved: "Let's say that it was 24 hours before you were born, and a genie appeared and said, 'What I'm going to do is let you set the rules of the society into which you will be born. You can set the economic rules and the social rules, and whatever rules you set will apply during your lifetime and your children's lifetimes.' And you'll say, 'Well, that's nice, but what's the catch?' And the genie says, 'Here's the catch. You don't know if you're going to be born rich or poor, white or black, male or female, able-bodied or infirm, intelligent or retarded.'

Mahatma Ghandi who said, "A nation's greatness is measured… | Sapphire_Rain on Xanga

Since many seem to be dense on this, that is what he's talking about.

Black people were treated like shit. They were bought and sold. If they died that only care was the cost to replace them. Once free they were still considered lesser until just 50 years ago.

We treat unborn children like it's nothing more than a tumor that can be plucked out and tossed in the trash on simple whims.

So when a black person thinks so little of protecting life, Santorum is taken back.


Santorum a social (R), we need fiscal (R)'s to fix our real problems.

 

[Two Thumbs]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.
And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

Sure thing

Go to your public library, go into the American history section and pull out the book labled "slavery".

When you get done reading that, find you high school American history teacher and beat the snot outta them for not educating you properly.

 

[High_Gravity]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.
And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

Are you fucking serious? its no secret that black people were slaves for hundreds of years and until the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s they had to fight for their rights to even be looked at as equal human beings, are you fucking serious? please tell me you are no older than 13 years old.

 

[Sallow]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.

And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

It was at best..an awkward remark.

He should neither try to defend or walk this back. If he were smart..he would just let it drop.

 

[Sallow]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.
And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

Slavery in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was easy.

 

[Sallow]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.
And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

Are you fucking serious? its no secret that black people were slaves for hundreds of years and until the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s they had to fight for their rights to even be looked at as equal human beings, are you fucking serious? please tell me you are no older than 13 years old.

This sort of reminds me of a heated exchange between Mario Cuomo and William Buckley.

It went something like this:

Buckley: If black people feel that there are so terribly discriminated against in America, they never should have came here.

Cuomo: They didn't have any choice in the matter, they were brought here on ships and in chains.

 

[High_Gravity]

That's bullshit. I challenge you to prove your claim.

Are you fucking serious? its no secret that black people were slaves for hundreds of years and until the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s they had to fight for their rights to even be looked at as equal human beings, are you fucking serious? please tell me you are no older than 13 years old.

This sort of reminds me of a heated exchange between Mario Cuomo and William Buckley.

It went something like this:

Buckley: If black people feel that there are so terribly discriminated against in America, they never should have came here.

Cuomo: They didn't have any choice in the matter, they were brought here on ships and in chains.

To be honest I'm not really surprised, people know less and less about history in this country every day, I have met kids who didn't know who Malcolm X was, it was only a matter of time until people started to forget slavery.

 

[Two Thumbs]

He's talking about history.

For hundreds of years the life of black people was of little or no concern to the rest of America.

And now we have little or no concern for the life growing inside of a woman.

It was at best..an awkward remark.

He should neither try to defend or walk this back. If he were smart..he would just let it drop.

A bit of a gaff to be sure. He's one of the nutso social conservatives that give the rest of us (you to you fiscal conservative you) a bad image to moderate Americans.

I understand what he's saying. I really do. It just tells me he needs to get out more and maybe meet some black people. He will be shocked to find that many agree with him and many think little of it, just like white people do.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Are you fucking serious? its no secret that black people were slaves for hundreds of years and until the civil rights movement in the 60s and 70s they had to fight for their rights to even be looked at as equal human beings, are you fucking serious? please tell me you are no older than 13 years old.

This sort of reminds me of a heated exchange between Mario Cuomo and William Buckley.

It went something like this:

Buckley: If black people feel that there are so terribly discriminated against in America, they never should have came here.

Cuomo: They didn't have any choice in the matter, they were brought here on ships and in chains.

To be honest I'm not really surprised, people know less and less about history in this country every day, I have met kids who didn't know who Malcolm X was, it was only a matter of time until people started to forget slavery.

Is that the name of the guy that invented the X-Box?