I fight fair...do you?

Discussion in 'Middle East - General' started by jeffperkinstech, Apr 9, 2004.

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    You know, there have been a few opportunities for me to attack Bush for not having retalliated for the 2000 bombing of a Navy ship docked in Yemen, even though I had seen something that said that Bush called off a planned strike in 2001 because Bush said, "..it happened on Clinton's watch." But I saw it on some private political site and it was pretty much hearsay at that point. I am glad I did not jump at that opportunity.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040409/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_commission_clinton_7

    I do not blindly support any particular person or party. Some of those that I think have done a terrible job for the whole of our nation, don't do EVERYTHING wrong and those that I feel that have done a good job for the country do not do everything right. In fact, I think it is very easy to disqualify the opinions of those that either support everything that is done and said by a particular person or entity, and, conversely, destruct every point of a particular individual or party. RARELY does anyone get it all right or wrong folks. So take a look at your posts people. Are you injecting truth into the world or are you just propergating more lies?

    Do any of you care?
     
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    why do 'you people' accuse everyone who has 'made a choice' to line up w/ one political party or another as being 'blind'? I mean? Geesh...I'd MUCH rather somebody make a choice, than be a waffler. Some people are so afraid of being 'wrong', they sit on the fences.
     
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    Do you mean picking up where Clinton fucked up? What response did Clinton have for the 93 Trade Center bombing? What did HE do in response to the USS Cole?

    So you could have attacked, you just would have looked even more stupid.
     
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    Yeah, not lining up like the programed, automiton, sheep of the masses is 'riding fences'. While people go 'goostepping' like a Nazi, to what ever tune a 'Pied Piper' of a party would play, I choose to be brave enough to step to my own ideals of right, wrong and fair-play. If you want to build a nation based on rights, freedoms and justice you can't play the 'tough guy' card all the time or you will inevitably squash the freedoms of most and step on the rights of, at least some. Just like you can't play the 'sensitive caring' card all the time, otherwise you will let other people bring to an end of the peoples freedoms and encroach on the rights of many. Let alone be able to be tough enough to enforce justice, and conversly, in the former example, be wise and prudent enough to be able to judge right and wrong to aptly decide what is most just.

    Very little of life is black and white, yes or no, right or left. There are other and, usually, better choices. Don't be afraid to THINK!
     
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    Wow... congratulations for not blaming Bush for something that didn't happen during his presidency. How big of you.
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    Thank you for the lecture, Mr. Government of One. It just so happens that most of us in the GOP have looked at our political positions and realized that we all agree on the fundmentals of smaller, less intrusive gov't. That's why I'm a part of the GOP. Judging by your posts, I think the World Worker's Party might suit you well.
     
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    You are insecure and afraid of committement.
     
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    Not to mention being morally bankrupt if not able to commit to defining right and wrong.
     
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    Dont delude yourself. You have already chosen your side. Against the American people in favor of Socialism.

    Fact is we live in a very clear world. Our options are black and white here. We either fight terrorism, or die. We either fight Neocommunism or die. Our freedom is being threatened everywhere and If you havent made a choice to which side you are going to support you are going to walked all over. The fact is there is no middle ground.

    You either support freedom or you dont.

    You either support limited government or you dont.

    You either support gay marriage or you dont.

    You either support abortion or you dont.

    You either support retaining our soviergnty or support handing it to the UN.

    Thats just a few issues that come to mind. There is no middle ground here.

    No one blindly supports any party or person. But anyone who doesnt have an opinion on issues is either ignorant or dishonest. There is nothing noble about being indecisive. There is nothing noble in going with whatever group seems popular at the time.

    Ironicly, despite your statements a recent survey has come out showing that partisans have a greater knowledge of the issues, which is exactly why there are partisans to begin with! They know what issues they believe in and which party supports those issues.
     
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    Once again, your attitude is condescending, assumptious, and very much "holier-than-thou." We might take you seriously if you developed some manners. I, personally, agree with the Republican party a lot more than with the Democratic party, so I tend to support them more. I never simply "line up like a programmed, automaton (I'm not impressed by your big word), sheep." I see what I think about the issue, then take that stand.

    On a side note, you criticize us for being sheep because we tend to agree with conservative/liberal values most of the time while you have your own ideas, but if we agreed with you, wouldn't that make us sheep?

    Now, once and for all, stop insulting all of us and try to have a more civil conversation.
     

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