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    so many people in America think that Entitlements are so good for the people.

    All entitlements do is control the people.
    You have to follow the rules that the Government sets up, in order to get them.

    Welfare rules, you must be single. The more children you have the more you receive in monthly benefits.

    SSI - you receive a set amount of money each month and the adjustment raise is so small that all it does, is go toward your payment of Medicare insurance rise in your premiums.
    Thus, you are stuck at at a continual amount of monthly payment.
    If you work to try and help pay the rising cost of bills, you are punished by Government taking away you SSI for each dollar amount you earn.

    This is not freedom from Government. You become the slave to the rules of the entitlement programs.

    If we had a system like Chile where you have your SSI in a private account and a guarantee if the market went down you would still be locked in to the benefits accumulated, this is much better. You would also get more than the government bonds do right now.
    You can then have your monthly amount to use each month.
    You would be able to withdraw more for emergencies if needed.
    You would be able to have the funds transfered over to your spouse or your children after you die.
    You could also work if you wanted to, or needed to, without Government taking away your monthly checks.
     
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    Welfare keeps children from starving, living on the street or being abandoned.

    Does it promote failure? IMO, yes. However calling for welfare reform, and saying people should just fend for themselves are two diffrent things.
     
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    Incoherent OP.
     
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    No one in this country is saying that the poor should fend for themselves.
    Welfare reform was done under Clinton and and the repubs. Obama has given it over to the states and eases the work requirements done under President Clinton.

    We have over 80 programs for poor children.Each one is causing waste.
    We need to combine these programs into maybe 3 or 4 programs. It would be easier to manage and less spending in government employees with government pensions.
     
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    I have no idea what programs youre talking about, so I can't really tell whether it would be feasible to combine them all into 4 programs. As for giving the states more control over welfare to work, I think that's a good idea.
     
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    Giving welfare over to the states to manage is good, but easing the work requirements isn't and it should have been done by Congress not the President.
    When any President can rewrite the bills congress passes, it makes him into a dictator and nulls and voids what our representatives are there for.
     
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    Untrue.
     
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    Easing the work requirement was a request made by the states, so they could include things like job training.
     
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    Yes it does allow changes in the work requirements.

    HHS has authority to waive compliance with this 402 requirement and authorize a state to test approaches and methods other than those set forth in section 407, including definitions of work activities and engagement, specified limitations, verification procedures, and the calculation of participation rates.

    The states can change the work activities and engagements.
    They can change the limitations set forth from Clinton's plan.
    It can and will allow more people into welfare programs.
    Clinton's program help get more people to work and off welfare.
    This one is going to help more get into the program and stay in welfare longer.
     
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    The one under Clinton had job training.
     

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