I do not fight for the freedom of a President to

[Psychoblues]

declare a war on terrorism and spread it to include anyone that he doesn't particularly agree with. I fight for the upholding of the American Constitution, what it means to me, and the general welfare of the peoples that comprise the population of the United States Of America. I've fought for and continue to be proud of that fight.

I do not fight for companies like Monsanto, Conagra, and others that develop faulty products that ultimately kill people but reap some short term financial benefit for themselves but rob others of their abilities to simply live honest and productive lives. I've fought against that kind of immunity and I'm proud of that fight.

I do not fight for companies like DuPont, Union Carbide, and others that demonstrably create products that are beneficial to most all of us but they deny and somehow "legally" obfuscate and escape their responsibilities for their mistakes thus placing their burdens of ill-thinking on the rest of us. Dead and alive. I'm proud of this fight and I think you should be as well.

I do not fight for corporations like Enron, Worldcom, and others that claim "generally accepted accounting principles" while robbing their shareholders, their employees and American taxpayers and destroying actual human lives in the process. I expect total and complete honesty from our corporations and our government and I've fought for all that and I still do. I hope you do too.

War is never comfortable unless one is protected from it's consequences. War is never desirable unless one has a profit to be realized and is also protected. History proves that war is never the answer. In an enlightened society, war is completely unnecessary and in a truly religious society war is totally and completely and morally WRONG. READ YOUR BIBLES, KORANS, YOUR TORANS, OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOUR TRANSCRIPTS OF RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE!!!!!!

Believe me, WAR is a bitch. We have other alternative measures precluding WAR and they're what I mainly fight FOR!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

 

[Semper Fi]

declare a war on terrorism and spread it to include anyone that he doesn't particularly agree with. I fight for the upholding of the American Constitution,

You are correct, you dont not fight for the Presidential right to declare war. You do, however, fight, as you stated, to defend the Constitution, and thus for the Congressional right to declare war. Iraq was indeed a Congressional decision, so I don't know what you are trying to say here.

I do not fight for companies like Monsanto, Conagra.....

I do not fight for companies like DuPont, Union Carbide....

I do not fight for corporations like Enron, Worldcom....

Again you are correct. Nobody fights for these corporations except perhaps privitized security contractors (or, "Rent-a-Cops") Once again, I dont know what you're trying to say.

History proves that war is never the answer.

The history of France, yes. But the history of the world, you are sorely mistaken. For instance, if World War Two had not happened, and by that I mean America entering the war in a united effort to unseat the Third Reich, Hitler would have had his way, and need I go on?

The American Revolution was indeed a war, which lead to the birth of the USA. Might I remind you that the Constitution and the Liberty that you defend were derrived from a war. It insults me and you and all of the Servicemembers and any Patriot for you to say that war is never the answer.

 

[insein]

declare a war on terrorism and spread it to include anyone that he doesn't particularly agree with. I fight for the upholding of the American Constitution, what it means to me, and the general welfare of the peoples that comprise the population of the United States Of America. I've fought for and continue to be proud of that fight.

I do not fight for companies like Monsanto, Conagra, and others that develop faulty products that ultimately kill people but reap some short term financial benefit for themselves but rob others of their abilities to simply live honest and productive lives. I've fought against that kind of immunity and I'm proud of that fight.

I do not fight for companies like DuPont, Union Carbide, and others that demonstrably create products that are beneficial to most all of us but they deny and somehow "legally" obfuscate and escape their responsibilities for their mistakes thus placing their burdens of ill-thinking on the rest of us. Dead and alive. I'm proud of this fight and I think you should be as well.

I do not fight for corporations like Enron, Worldcom, and others that claim "generally accepted accounting principles" while robbing their shareholders, their employees and American taxpayers and destroying actual human lives in the process. I expect total and complete honesty from our corporations and our government and I've fought for all that and I still do. I hope you do too.

War is never comfortable unless one is protected from it's consequences. War is never desirable unless one has a profit to be realized and is also protected. History proves that war is never the answer. In an enlightened society, war is completely unnecessary and in a truly religious society war is totally and completely and morally WRONG. READ YOUR BIBLES, KORANS, YOUR TORANS, OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOUR TRANSCRIPTS OF RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE!!!!!!

Believe me, WAR is a bitch. We have other alternative measures precluding WAR and they're what I mainly fight FOR!!!!!!!

Psychoblues

What a load of hippy piss. Psycho where do you pull this stuff out of?

 

[Psychoblues]

declare a war on terrorism and spread it to include anyone that he doesn't particularly agree with. I fight for the upholding of the American Constitution,

You are correct, you dont not fight for the Presidential right to declare war. You do, however, fight, as you stated, to defend the Constitution, and thus for the Congressional right to declare war. Iraq was indeed a Congressional decision, so I don't know what you are trying to say here.

I do not fight for companies like Monsanto, Conagra.....

I do not fight for companies like DuPont, Union Carbide....

I do not fight for corporations like Enron, Worldcom....

Again you are correct. Nobody fights for these corporations except perhaps privitized security contractors (or, "Rent-a-Cops") Once again, I dont know what you're trying to say.

History proves that war is never the answer.

The history of France, yes. But the history of the world, you are sorely mistaken. For instance, if World War Two had not happened, and by that I mean America entering the war in a united effort to unseat the Third Reich, Hitler would have had his way, and need I go on?

The American Revolution was indeed a war, which lead to the birth of the USA. Might I remind you that the Constitution and the Liberty that you defend were derrived from a war. It insults me and you and all of the Servicemembers and any Patriot for you to say that war is never the answer.

Obviously you didn't read my entire post and obviously you don't know much about France, or World War II or the American Revolution. You want to go to war as a MARTYR? Go with my condolenses. I insult no one yet you insult me with your ignorance and you somehow think it clever or enlightened.

WAR is quite simply a failure to adequately communicate. I fight wars in my personal life every day. I haven't killed anyone yet, in my personal life, can you dig it?

 

[Psychoblues]

What a load of hippy piss. Psycho where do you pull this stuff out of?

It's called living, insein. I haven't been sitting around pounding a keyboard without direction or second thoughts. I've been paying attention and I suggest you do the same.

Psychoblues

 

[Stephanie]

It's called living, insein. I haven't been sitting around pounding a keyboard without direction or second thoughts. I've been paying attention and I suggest you do the same.

Psychoblues

Oh the heck you haven't been sitting around pounding a keyboard without direction or second thought's. And we're the unfortunate one's who have to sit and read the crap....

 

[Annie]

declare a war on terrorism and spread it to include anyone that he doesn't particularly agree with. I fight for the upholding of the American Constitution,

You are correct, you dont not fight for the Presidential right to declare war. You do, however, fight, as you stated, to defend the Constitution, and thus for the Congressional right to declare war. Iraq was indeed a Congressional decision, so I don't know what you are trying to say here.

I do not fight for companies like Monsanto, Conagra.....

I do not fight for companies like DuPont, Union Carbide....

I do not fight for corporations like Enron, Worldcom....

Again you are correct. Nobody fights for these corporations except perhaps privitized security contractors (or, "Rent-a-Cops") Once again, I dont know what you're trying to say.

History proves that war is never the answer.

The history of France, yes. But the history of the world, you are sorely mistaken. For instance, if World War Two had not happened, and by that I mean America entering the war in a united effort to unseat the Third Reich, Hitler would have had his way, and need I go on?

The American Revolution was indeed a war, which lead to the birth of the USA. Might I remind you that the Constitution and the Liberty that you defend were derrived from a war. It insults me and you and all of the Servicemembers and any Patriot for you to say that war is never the answer.

Semper Fi, good job! The Constitutution does give Congress the power to declare wars, they haven't since WWII. In effect, they've given the power to the President-the people should demand that Congress come out and make the choice, when it's presented. That would go a long way towards getting the whole of government back on the right footing.

As it stands now, the legislature spoke 'united' after 9/11, heck Kerry was sounding tough. As the people were worked on through the media, Moveon., MM, etc., Congress followed the sheep, (btw Bully, it's not the 'conservatives' that have been the sheep-Miers anyone?)

Ignor Psycho, whether he ever served or not, today his is not quite 'there' so his ramblings are not quite 'there.' You'll notice he wasn't able to recognize his own posting within yours.

 

[Psychoblues]

Oh the heck you haven't been sitting around pounding a keyboard without direction or second thought's. And we're the unfortunate one's who have to sit and read the crap....

You don't "have to sit and read" anything, Stefany. You can resolve yourself to more of the mindless and noncritical that you are so accustomed and enjoy. I'm afraid that USMessageBoard might be more than you can handle. Jimnyc is definitely RW. I can appreciate that. I am definitely LW. I beieve Jimnyc appreciates that but somehow you can't come to grips with it. By the way, did I mention that I am also an American and further that I've fought and KILLED for the American way of life?

You don't come close, Stef. Live and learn. Regardless our disagreements, we've got to live together. You might not agree with me, but like it or not, I'm as American as you. If we can't live with each other, how will we ever prosper in the socio-economic world that we find ourselves in today?

Psychoblues

 

[Stephanie]

You don't "have to sit and read" anything, Stefany. You can resolve yourself to more of the mindless and noncritical that you are so accustomed and enjoy. I'm afraid that USMessageBoard might be more than you can handle. Jimnyc is definitely RW. I can appreciate that. I am definitely LW. I beieve Jimnyc appreciates that but somehow you can't come to grips with it. By the way, did I mention that I am also an American and further that I've fought and KILLED for the American way of life?

You don't come close, Stef. Live and learn. Regardless our disagreements, we've got to live together. You might not agree with me, but like it or not, I'm as American as you. If we can't live with each other, how will we ever prosper in the socio-economic world that we find ourselves in today?

Psychoblues

Allright, you want to call me Stephany no problem. I do keep calling you physo...hehe.... Why do you keep bringing up the usmessage board into this. You are someone I know, hummm. But anyway, your right I don't agree with you on alot of your negative post, and physo babble, but I'm as american as you, and I love my country, and right's or wrong's I will stand with it. You my friend are included with it... So we disagree in our opinion's, but, your tireless negative account's of us as a nation and the people who live in it, are just that, tireless... So if I want to stand up for our country and you want to put us all down as a people of the United State's, I am free to stand up for me and us, and you are free to trash us.. From one american citizen to another....
As for the social-economic. We seem to be doing ok, I can't tell the rest of the people to scrape their way out of being poor, like I grew up in, and fought my way out of, but the oppertunity's are there, you only need to reach out and grab them..... You need the will, and the ball's :halo: :kiss2: oh phooey, I'm going to get trashed for my spelling...) My spell checker is not working, and I guess to physo, neither is my brain.... :funnyface

 

[Gunny]

You don't "have to sit and read" anything, Stefany. You can resolve yourself to more of the mindless and noncritical that you are so accustomed and enjoy. I'm afraid that USMessageBoard might be more than you can handle. Jimnyc is definitely RW. I can appreciate that. I am definitely LW. I beieve Jimnyc appreciates that but somehow you can't come to grips with it. By the way, did I mention that I am also an American and further that I've fought and KILLED for the American way of life?

You don't come close, Stef. Live and learn. Regardless our disagreements, we've got to live together. You might not agree with me, but like it or not, I'm as American as you. If we can't live with each other, how will we ever prosper in the socio-economic world that we find ourselves in today?

Psychoblues

Yeah Stef, pay attention to psycho ..... he never once fails to call attention to his alleged military service nor pat himself on the back for it, almost always in an attempt to defend his closed-minded, extremist, wannabe-intellectual-elitist political viewpoints.

Happens everytime he has a beer. :alco:

 

[insein]

You don't "have to sit and read" anything, Stefany. You can resolve yourself to more of the mindless and noncritical that you are so accustomed and enjoy. I'm afraid that USMessageBoard might be more than you can handle. Jimnyc is definitely RW. I can appreciate that. I am definitely LW. I beieve Jimnyc appreciates that but somehow you can't come to grips with it. By the way, did I mention that I am also an American and further that I've fought and KILLED for the American way of life?

You don't come close, Stef. Live and learn. Regardless our disagreements, we've got to live together. You might not agree with me, but like it or not, I'm as American as you. If we can't live with each other, how will we ever prosper in the socio-economic world that we find ourselves in today?

Psychoblues

I love how your drunken comments always resort back to "I served in Vietnam" like that gives you a free pass to say whatever the hell you want regardless of whether its true or not. The bottomline is that these thoughts are your OPINION, psycho. If your OPINIONS are wrong, we will call you on it. No need to get your nuts all in a tizzy over being proven wrong.

 

[Abbey Normal]

Psycho, are you one of those professional protestors who goes from country to country wearing a ski mask to protest the evils of Capitalism?
As for DuPont, that company virtually made it possible to make a decent living for thousands upon thousands of people in Delaware. If you are not a Socialist malcontent, you are doing a good imitation of one.

 

[Gunny]

Psycho, are you one of those professional protestors who goes from country to country wearing a ski mask to protest the evils of Capitalism?
As for DuPont, that company virtually made it possible to make a decent living for thousands upon thousands of people in Delaware. If you are not a Socialist malcontent, you are doing a good imitation of one.

Nah .... professional implies someone would actually pay to hear his spew, and your statement implies he would act on something rather than fill his ass with Ripple and turn on his PC.

He could probably get a job as Cindy Sheehan's scriptwriter though.

 

[Psychoblues]

Nah .... professional implies someone would actually pay to hear his spew, and your statement implies he would act on something rather than fill his ass with Ripple and turn on his PC.

He could probably get a job as Cindy Sheehan's scriptwriter though.

Nope, Cindy can speak for herself. And so can I. Dissolve your innuendo, GunnyL.

Psychoblues

 

[Hobbit]

Nope, Cindy can speak for herself. And so can I. Dissolve your innuendo, GunnyL.

Psychoblues

Do you even know the meaning of the word innuendo? Most of what I've seen you call innuendo is, in fact insults, refutation, or, if you're a hippy who wants to dismiss what others are saying, rhetoric. It's not subtle enough to be innuendo.

 

[Psychoblues]

Do you even know the meaning of the word innuendo? Most of what I've seen you call innuendo is, in fact insults, refutation, or, if you're a hippy who wants to dismiss what others are saying, rhetoric. It's not subtle enough to be innuendo.

Do you understand "innuendo"? Obviously not or you would certainly understand that all refutation of my argument here in USMB are purely "innuendo" and nothing more. There have been a few arguments that I've presented here that refuted but the refutation has been proven false in later information provided by no less than our trusted national journalists and correspondents.

I simply ask for logical debate and all you have to offer is personal attack. Have you no additional ammunition? So far, the Republicans have demonstrated only personal attack and no other credible refutation of anything. Are you one of those? This Democrat pretty much dismisses all that as the workings of small minds and weak positions.

Psychoblues

P.S. The Brother of "innuendo" is "personal attack".

 

[CSM]

I got news for ya Psyco (the name is soooo appropriate)! I too have fought and killed for this country. I too was in VN. I have been shot at, wounded, and nearly died for this constitution and this country.

I DID fight for those corporations and their right to make a profit. There is no doubt in my mind that capitalism is one of the mainstays of a free and democratic society.

I DID fight for the President's right to direct the armed forces of this country. That is a part of the Constitution of the United States. As an aside, no President has EVER declared war....the legislative branch of our government does that and always has. In case you hadn't noticed, the sitting President has the approval of the legislative branch to wage this current war.

I also fought so that folks like you, who's fundamental ideology is in direct opposition to mine, have the right to voice that philosophy, regardless of the consequences.

What I did not fight for is your apparent belief that other who do not think like you should be persecuted through arrogant libel, and vicious verbal attacks. I did not fight so that your hatred for things and persons not to YOUR liking would have to be reformed to fit YOUR views.

On a personal note, I do not like people who use their service in the military as some kind of special dispensation to spout rhetoric that is, in my opinion, nothing more than poisonous hatred for the American way of life. I hold those people in comntempt. I hate those who have never served and doing the same thing in even more contempt.

 

[Gunny]

What a load of hippy piss. Psycho where do you pull this stuff out of?

You really need an answer?

 

[Gunny]

Nope, Cindy can speak for herself. And so can I. Dissolve your innuendo, GunnyL.

Psychoblues

Dissolve this: :finger:

 

[BaronVonBigmeat]

I got news for ya Psyco (the name is soooo appropriate)! I too have fought and killed for this country. I too was in VN. I have been shot at, wounded, and nearly died for this constitution and this country.

If you were fighting for the constitution, then why were you in Vietnam? It was an unconstitutional war, because there was no declaration of war by congress. Also, could you explain how the Vietnamese were threatening our constitution or our country?