I discovered something the hard way.

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    Warning! If you use E-Bay the policy covering offers made by the purchaser has changed. Now if the seller accepts an offer it is now automatically a purchase, the seller no longer has to notify the purchaser the offer was accepted before the sale is made.
    This change was enacted 2 months ago. :evil:
     
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    eBay isn't what it used to be. If you're a seller, you better be on your toes, because they do absolutely nothing to protect sellers anymore.

    They actually closed my account, including my PayPal account, when they "discovered" my website. They saw that I am a gun dealer, and closed my accounts immediately, citing that eBay nor PayPal are authorized vehicles for the exchange of firearms (don't tell that to gunbroker or auctionamerica!)

    After pointing out that I do not, have never, and will never sell a firearm over the Internet (even though it is perfectly legal, and we do sell parts), AND then threatening them with a civil discrimination suit (lawyer wrote an EXCELLENT letter, and I almost wish they had kept the account closed, as I'd be a rich man today), my account was restored (with the 1500 positive feedback) and they have left me alone since.

    We don't use it like we used to. Now, its just a place for us to dump the crap we can't sell to people who can actually see it or hold it. We sell it cheap, and we offer refunds even though we state that we don't, but we do that in our stores as well.

    eBay sucks, but it is a necessary evil in my business.
     
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    I rarely use it anymore, I generally do better with Amazon and a few others but on occasion it's the only place to find good stuff you want or need inexpensively.
     
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    it is hard to make a profit on ebay...between the fees...and there is no protection for the seller now...its a total buyers market....you cant even leave a buyer negative feedback now....

    i havent sold anything on ebay for years now
     
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    I still use it, especially as a buyer, but my attitude is "I hope I get lucky instead of getting burned." Its like pulling a slot machine to me.

    As a seller, I'm much more methodical and precise with it. We ship IMMEDIATELY, with insurance and signature confirmation, and still, we get burned about 1 in 20 transactions.

    I think I've had 4 negative feedbacks in 10 years and 4000 transactions as a seller? And in every one of them, eBay sided with the buyer (one who eventually wound up in prison for charging her purchase to a stolen credit card, $1900 which I had to eat, even though PayPal approved it. The cash came back out of my account, and my merchandise was gone forever. Sucked being me that day, and yeah, I got a judgement that I'll never see :)

    But I admit, I've made a killing having it as an option. Great exposure to markets I don't have, but you just have to expect to get burned, and move on when you do.
     
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    Well this is policy is decidedly pro-seller. I understand and don't have a problem with it, I'm just pissed that I received no notification of the policy change. The seller will take the item back less the shipping cost and a 20% restocking fee so out of the $75 price and $10 shipping I'm out $25 plus whatever it costs to ship it back. I'm thinking slow boat to China shipping. :lol:
     
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    There are certain "niche markets" where eBay is THE PLACE to sell. I'm specifically thinking of coins and used tools, but there are others.

    I have stopped putting reserves and minimums on coins (I'm an AVID, VORACIOUS collector) because there are so many coin collectors and dealers watching eBay 24/7, that a coin will ALWAYS reach its fair market value (unless it is an inexpensive, common coin).

    It all depends on what, and HOW MUCH, you're selling. I agree that it is dead for the average individual who wants to "clean out" his junk. But thee are certain niches that will always do well there, and if you can push volume, it can be very profitable.
     
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    As a buyer I've had only one negative I gave out and that was to a scammer that E-Bay did shut down and Pay-Pal refunded all my money. I have no problem with honest sellers on the site, I always pay immediately when I win and I carry a 100% rating (mostly from when sellers could neg buyers) and I disagree with the policy that sellers cannot give out negative reviews. When I saw that policy go into place is when I really started cutting back my usage and started looking for other sources.
    I'm also familiar with what to look for, one being overly high shipping costs. I won't buy from that seller because it's obvious they're trying to make more money by doubling or tripling their actual shipping rate, that's just dishonest.
     
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    Didn't you receive a "you won" message in your email? Are you using the word offer instead of bid?
     
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    I agree. It is getting too complicated and there doesn't seem to be as big a market for products that are fairly priced there. I put items in the newspaper now and get cash.
     

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