I can't believe they let this happen!

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    They let this man drown because of budget cuts and departmental policy?

    Surely, one of those men standing there on the beach should have said, "screw the policy, I am not going to stand here and watch that man drown." And there were witnesses as well, why the hell didn't a civilian go in and pull him out?

    And the water was too shallow for the Coast Guard 41 footer (I was stationed on YBI) the base that would have been called out for this. I can't believe that they could not get someone on shore and in the water in an hour to save that man.

    I don't blame the first responders, but I wonder what they were thinking. Surely they had enough training to do something more than just watch this man die! I can't help but worry that this may haunt them for the rest of their lives.

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    I know. I couldnt believe it myself.
     
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    I have no issue with it. The guy wanted to kill himself so he wasn't disappointed. Why should any of those first responders risk one or more of their lives to save that jackhole? He got what he deserved.
     
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    Budget cuts stops compassion?
     
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    I read that a civilian woman swam out to him but was too late. She did bring the body to shore, at least.

    Only in California....
     
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    Did he really want to kill himself?

    I read that he kept looking back at them. It read almost like he was pleading for them to come save his butt. I have also read that most people who commit suicide or let people think they are trying to do so are actually seeking help/sympathy rather than trying to kill themselves. Maybe he was mentally ill and needed them to save him?

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    I suspect it was more about union rules than budget cuts.:eusa_whistle:

    There have been no federal cuts yet, that would have affected this. The story doesn't say if it was municipal, state or federal cuts which were blamed. Just that cuts get the blame.

    This is the kind of nonsense pablum that really muddies the waters in the fiscal debate. Surely there were plenty of other things Alameda county or the city could have cut from their budget before cutting basic water rescue training? And if not, these people so trained are certified annually. Are they saying no one's certified, so there's been no training for over a year? That wouldn't be due to any federal budget cuts.

    Lots of questions needed to be asked which weren't. The lapdog press just runs to their keyboards with "Oooooh, evil republican budget cuts caused a DEATH!!!!"
     
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    I have read two different stories about this. One of them indicated that it was the departmental budgets that had been cut which would have meant it was county or state not federal cuts. With all the talk of cutting teachers pay, it is not hard to believe that first responders have also been affected.

    I am not sure where you are getting this:

    I didn't say that and I don't think the article said that either. I wasn't even thinking federal cuts. I was thinking state and county. Nor was I thinking, evil politicians caused this. I was more thinking, how could anyone allow this to happen? Even if those first responders were not trained for water rescue, I am 99% certain, they could have devised a life saving plan of action to cover the situation.

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    And, no one was addressing you either. I was addressing the lapdog press.

    ABC carried this story tonight on the evening news, and DID say republican budget cuts caused this. They mixed this in with a story about the federal budget battle. No one's even asked the officials exactly WHAT budget cuts they were blaming this on.

    TALK of cutting teacher's pay is just that, talk. It hasn't happened yet. And it's not a valid comparison anyway.
     

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