I ain't no Birther, but what's up with this?

[PubliusInfinitum]

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

What the hell?

I would hope this is followed up - gotta be a hoax.

In related news, a federal judge actually fined the birther leader $20 grand in an effort to protect the "integrity" of the courts.

Now this up to this point all the birther stuff seems rather silly, but fining someone for bringing a case before the court? That seems a bit...something.


Judge Fines 'Birther' Leader | Georgia Public Broadcasting

Many states have rules and resulting penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits, which cost the states millions and tie up the courts for more serious business. The "birther" shit is no exception. Unfortunately, there have been several lawsuits that made it through the court system, personally costing Obama thousands in lawyer's fees to defend against them. If he didn't, he could lose one of these frivolous suits by default.

ROFLMNAO...

Which would require him to do what?


It would require him to produce an actual Birth certificate... OH THE HORROR!

Something that every American President has had to do... and given that this is the first president of the US whose birth origin rest on such dubious grounds.

The certainty is that Hussein was not born in the US... and that certainty rests on the millions that have been spent to protect the records...

People who have nothing to hide, don't spend millions hiding... they just produce the document.

The highest probability is that he was born in Kenya, as his Grandmother stated...

 

[Emma]

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

A week after the above, posted on the same news site:

Inteligence | Left’s face it, Obama is not ‘our own’

 

[Emma]

1. AP 2004 Story re Obama - Political News Version - 771 Words
Illinois Senate candidate Jack Ryan dropped out of the race Friday amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to im-plode in four short days.

"It's clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign - the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I re-fuse to play."

The campaign began to come apart Monday following the release of embarrassing records from Ryan's divorce. In those records, his ex-wife, "Boston Public" actress Jeri Ryan, said Ryan took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans and tried to get her to perform sex acts with him while others watched.
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2. AP 2004 Story - National Political News Version - 768 Words
Illinois Senate candidate Jack Ryan dropped out of the race Friday amid a furor over lurid sex
club allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode
in four short days.

"It's clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain
in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorchedearth
campaign - the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse
to play."

The campaign began to come apart Monday following the release of embarrassing records from
Ryan's divorce. In those records, his ex-wife, "Boston Public" actress Jeri Ryan, said Ryan took her
to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans and tried to get her to perform sex acts with
him while others watched.

Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one "avant-garde" club in Paris
and left because they felt uncomfortable.
***

3. AP 2004 Story re Obama - International/Africa Distribution Version - 508 Words
U.S. Senate candidate Jack Ryan dropped out of the race Friday amid a furor over lurid sex club
allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising campaign to implode in
four short days.

The campaign began to come apart Monday following the release of embarrassing records from
Ryan's divorce. In those records, his ex-wife, "Boston Public" and former "Star Trek: Voyager" actress
Jeri Ryan, said Ryan took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans and
tried to get her to perform sex acts with him while others watched.

Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one "avant-garde" club in Paris
and left because they felt uncomfortable.

"It's clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain
in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorchedearth
campaign - the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse
to play."
***


Source: LexisNexis Paid Subscription Service.

You can read many "versions" of the AP story here, Illinois Senate candidate Jack Ryan dropped out of the race Friday - Google Search

 

[chanel]

What does everyone think? If you could take a guess, real or hoax?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

A week after the above, posted on the same news site:

Inteligence | Left’s face it, Obama is not ‘our own’

Um, yeah, it looks like they got the word to forget that whole "Granny witnessed the Kenyan birth" thingy

 

[Catbert]

Catbert deleted content.

 

[MaggieMae]

What the hell?

I would hope this is followed up - gotta be a hoax.

In related news, a federal judge actually fined the birther leader $20 grand in an effort to protect the "integrity" of the courts.

Now this up to this point all the birther stuff seems rather silly, but fining someone for bringing a case before the court? That seems a bit...something.


Judge Fines 'Birther' Leader | Georgia Public Broadcasting

Many states have rules and resulting penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits, which cost the states millions and tie up the courts for more serious business. The "birther" shit is no exception. Unfortunately, there have been several lawsuits that made it through the court system, personally costing Obama thousands in lawyer's fees to defend against them. If he didn't, he could lose one of these frivolous suits by default.

___

I'm cool with that - but where were you chiming in on all those frivilous lawsuits being filed against Sarah Palin?

Were you calling those out as rubbish?

Keep it honest...

Some probably are. I don't follow Sarah Palin's life except when someone mentions it on this board.

 

[Emma]

What does everyone think? If you could take a guess, real or hoax?

The article was obviously edited for their local readers.

 

[Article 15]

Threads merged.

~A15

 

[MaggieMae]

What the hell?

I would hope this is followed up - gotta be a hoax.

In related news, a federal judge actually fined the birther leader $20 grand in an effort to protect the "integrity" of the courts.

Now this up to this point all the birther stuff seems rather silly, but fining someone for bringing a case before the court? That seems a bit...something.


Judge Fines 'Birther' Leader | Georgia Public Broadcasting

Many states have rules and resulting penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits, which cost the states millions and tie up the courts for more serious business. The "birther" shit is no exception. Unfortunately, there have been several lawsuits that made it through the court system, personally costing Obama thousands in lawyer's fees to defend against them. If he didn't, he could lose one of these frivolous suits by default.

ROFLMNAO...

Which would require him to do what?


It would require him to produce an actual Birth certificate... OH THE HORROR!

Something that every American President has had to do... and given that this is the first president of the US whose birth origin rest on such dubious grounds.

The certainty is that Hussein was not born in the US... and that certainty rests on the millions that have been spent to protect the records...

People who have nothing to hide, don't spend millions hiding... they just produce the document.

The highest probability is that he was born in Kenya, as his Grandmother stated...

He's already produced his birth certificate which has been verified by everyone except God. Only you weirdos want more, and any person in their right mind (no pun intended) wouldn't kow to the maniacal fringers, especially a sitting president who before he was even elected would have been fully investigated by the FBI from the day he popped out.

 

[007]

He's already produced his birth certificate...

For the love of GOD girl, STOP LYING!

What obama "produced," was a "copy" of thingie called a "CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH," which in 1961 Hawaii was handing out to anyone including people that weren't even born in this country!! To date, obama has NEVER "produced" a REAL ***BIRTH CERTIFICATE***.

There is not ONE DOCUMENT IN EXISTENCE TODAY readily available for all to see that clearly states WHAT HOSPITAL obama WAS BORN IN, the DELIVERING DOCTORS NAME, attending NURSES NAMES, WITNESSES.... ZERO is available for ANYONE to see, and obama is spending MILLIONS TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that MIGHT shed light on where obama was truly born is HIDDEN. And one more tid bit, obama's FIRST OFFICIAL ACT AS PRESIDENT when stepped into the Oval Office was to SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER HIDING ALL HIS PERSONAL RECORDS!!!

So THINK about it people. Does that sound like a person with NOTHING TO HIDE?! Get real...

 

[Emma]

And one more tid bit, obama's FIRST OFFICIAL ACT AS PRESIDENT when stepped into the Oval Office was to SIGN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER HIDING ALL HIS PERSONAL RECORDS!!!

For the record:

National Coalition for History » Blog Archive » President Obama Revokes Bush Presidential Records Executive Order (updated Jan. 26)

PRESIDENT OBAMA REVOKES BUSH PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS EXECUTIVE ORDER (UPDATED JAN. 26)

On January 21, in one of his first official acts, President Barack Obama revoked the Bush administration’s Executive Order 13233 that severely limited access by the public to presidential records.

President Obama firmly committed his administration to a new policy of transparency by symbolically issuing the executive order on his first full day in office. The issuance of the Obama presidential records executive order ends a nearly eight year effort by historians, archivists, political scientists and other stakeholders in federal courts and on Capitol Hill to have the Bush EO revoked on legal grounds or by statute.

The language in the Obama executive order is similar to Executive Order 12667 issued by President Reagan in 1989 which was also in effect during the presidencies of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The Reagan executive order was revoked when President Bush issued EO 13233 in November 2001.

The Obama executive order restores the presumption that the incumbent president, not former presidents, their heirs or designees should be the one asserting claims of executive privilege. The executive order states that only “living” former Presidents can make claims of executive privilege. This removed one of the most egregious sections of the Bush EO that allowed heirs or designees to make claims of executive privilege for an indefinite period after the death of a former President.

In addition, the provisions in the Bush EO allowing former vice presidents to assert executive privilege are gone. In fact, the Obama EO makes it clear that vice presidential records are to be included under the definition of “presidential records.”

Executive Order 13489 also restores the function of the Archivist of the United States’ as an independent arbiter of initial claims of executive privilege. The executive order assumes the Archivist may release records 30 days after notifying the incumbent and former Presidents unless a claim of executive privilege is made.

His executive order made accessing presidential records LESS restrictive by reversing what Bush had put into place.


http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf

‘‘Presidential records’’ refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.
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Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.

Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978

 

[Zona]

Oily Taint?

 

[Godboy]

When Dan Rather used shit like this, he got fired even though the forged documents were true about Bush' service or lack thereof.

Now we can post whatever we want and it becomes right wing gospel.

Sad little people who don't like to lose fair and square.

Right wingers dont question Obamas birth place. Crazy weirdo fringers do that, and they can be found on both sides of the aisle.

 

[L.K.Eder]

When Dan Rather used shit like this, he got fired even though the forged documents were true about Bush' service or lack thereof.

Now we can post whatever we want and it becomes right wing gospel.

Sad little people who don't like to lose fair and square.

Right wingers dont question Obamas birth place. Crazy weirdo fringers do that, and they can be found on both sides of the isle.

which isle, oahu? i thought obama was liked there.

 

[Godboy]

When Dan Rather used shit like this, he got fired even though the forged documents were true about Bush' service or lack thereof.

Now we can post whatever we want and it becomes right wing gospel.

Sad little people who don't like to lose fair and square.

Right wingers dont question Obamas birth place. Crazy weirdo fringers do that, and they can be found on both sides of the isle.

which isle, oahu? i thought obama was liked there.

Corrected for the spell police.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I'll take "Obama birthplace" for $2,000, Alex

Answer: An African Newspaper, Obama's Grandmother, Obama Half Brother, Obama half sister, Ambassador to Kenya

Jeopardy Question: Name some of the people close to Obama who claim he was born in Kenya.

You are correct!

 

[Polk]

Now this up to this point all the birther stuff seems rather silly, but fining someone for bringing a case before the court? That seems a bit...something.

Judge Fines 'Birther' Leader | Georgia Public Broadcasting

It's not used often. It's an action taken against those who keep filing the same suit over and over and over.

 

[Emma]

Now this up to this point all the birther stuff seems rather silly, but fining someone for bringing a case before the court? That seems a bit...something.

Judge Fines 'Birther' Leader | Georgia Public Broadcasting

It's not used often. It's an action taken against those who keep filing the same suit over and over and over.

He should read the original suit filed, the order, her response, and then the order for sanctions. Then he'll understand.

 

[sitarro]

Many states have rules and resulting penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits, which cost the states millions and tie up the courts for more serious business. The "birther" shit is no exception. Unfortunately, there have been several lawsuits that made it through the court system, personally costing Obama thousands in lawyer's fees to defend against them. If he didn't, he could lose one of these frivolous suits by default.

ROFLMNAO...

Which would require him to do what?


It would require him to produce an actual Birth certificate... OH THE HORROR!

Something that every American President has had to do... and given that this is the first president of the US whose birth origin rest on such dubious grounds.

The certainty is that Hussein was not born in the US... and that certainty rests on the millions that have been spent to protect the records...

People who have nothing to hide, don't spend millions hiding... they just produce the document.

The highest probability is that he was born in Kenya, as his Grandmother stated...

He's already produced his birth certificate which has been verified by everyone except God. Only you weirdos want more, and any person in their right mind (no pun intended) wouldn't kow to the maniacal fringers, especially a sitting president who before he was even elected would have been fully investigated by the FBI from the day he popped out.

He produced a computer generated joke(obviously produced on a computer that didn't exist when the liar was born) that is not a birth certificate but a certificate of live birth......... different documents.