Hypocrisy Check

[Foxfyre]

This thread absolutely should not be in the conspiracy forum.

 

[Fizz]

This thread absolutely should not be in the conspiracy forum.

those damn zionists put it here.

 

[Sheldon]

This thread absolutely should not be in the conspiracy forum.

those damn zionists put it here.

I wouldn't be surprised if FEMA is behind this.

 

[Coyote]

Hypocrisy check?

How many here have thought that blacks who are offended by monuments to the Confederacy, and various other sympathetic symbols to the same,

should get over it?

I thought hypocrisy was the subject of the thread.

No takers?

lol, it's always different when it's your guys isn't it?

No the subject is the hypocrisy of those who say that a mosque should be built near/on/close enough to the WTC, is no problem and those who resist it are racist islamophobes. While on the other hand if it happened to an islamic nation by radical Christians who then wanted to put a church in the area would be an abhorant idea.

It's about a particular issue of hypocrisy, not a grab bag.

Those who resist it are a mixed bag. Some are genuinely upset, some are genuinely anti-Islam.

The thing is...it's two blocks from the ground zero...how far is "far enough"?

We are a country that was built upon freedom of religion....would there be an outcry if a church or a synogogue were built?

The plans for the community center - which is what it is first and formost, were in place prior to 9/11....to now refuse it, would that not be to paint all Muslims with the same brush - the extremist brush?

Yes, it's sensitive...but to deny them would be to set a precedent that might not be a good one for our country.

 

[martybegan]

IMO, if we allow Catholics to build churches near schools, we should allow Muslims to build mosques near the WTC site

BTW - they're not building on the site of the WTC and they're not building a mosque.

Not equivalent. This is talking about building a church on/near the site of a terrorist attack caused by radical adherents to that religion, not next to a school.

Catholic clergymen raped children. They shouldn't be allowed near children

Muslim extremists killed people at WTC. They shouldn't be allowed near the WTC

Religious criminals should not be allowed near their victims

Plumbers have raped children. No plumbers near schools.

The vast majority of catholic priests have never abused a child. You are applying the rule of the exception.

That is a really ignorant counter. Leaders of plumbing unions didn't send out a letter threatening to ban plumbers from the union if they reported child rape to authorities.

It is not ignorant at all. You have to insert additonal facts to create other arguments. My inital point still stands based on the original comment.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

This thread absolutely should not be in the conspiracy forum.

those damn zionists put it here.

I wouldn't be surprised if FEMA is behind this.

I hope the mosque doesn't have a concrete core!

And don't let Rudy Giuliani get hold of the blueprints.

 

[CurveLight]

Hypocrisy check?

How many here have thought that blacks who are offended by monuments to the Confederacy, and various other sympathetic symbols to the same,

should get over it?

I thought hypocrisy was the subject of the thread.

No takers?

lol, it's always different when it's your guys isn't it?

No the subject is the hypocrisy of those who say that a mosque should be built near/on/close enough to the WTC, is no problem and those who resist it are racist islamophobes. While on the other hand if it happened to an islamic nation by radical Christians who then wanted to put a church in the area would be an abhorant idea.

It's about a particular issue of hypocrisy, not a grab bag.

Not equivalent. This is talking about building a church on/near the site of a terrorist attack caused by radical adherents to that religion, not next to a school.

Plumbers have raped children. No plumbers near schools.

The vast majority of catholic priests have never abused a child. You are applying the rule of the exception.

That is a really ignorant counter. Leaders of plumbing unions didn't send out a letter threatening to ban plumbers from the union if they reported child rape to authorities.

It is not ignorant at all. You have to insert additonal facts to create other arguments. My inital point still stands based on the original comment.

Your initial point "stands" like overcooked angel hair pasta makes good parachutes. It is not the rule of "exception" because Catholic church leaders globally protected pedophiles whereas plumbers have come no where remotely close.

 

[Newby]

You didn't answer my question. Where do YOU draw the line?

If a mosque is a symbol of the attack is the Confederate flag a symbol of slavery?

No, it's you who's never acknowledged my question. Why don't you question or condemn the American Muslim community, who if they cared for their fellow Americans in New York, wouldn't disrespect them by putting a reminder so close to the location of a terrible act perpetrated by fellow Muslims? Why aren't they accountable for any ideals, but yet the rest of us are?

Because ideals are what you pursue regardless of whether or not others pursue them. That's what makes them ideals, and not just business as usual.

Yet you're holding one group accountable for them because of your political bias while you're letting the other group off scott free because of your political biases.

 

[hortysir]

This thread absolutely should not be in the conspiracy forum.

those damn zionists put it here.

I wouldn't be surprised if FEMA is behind this.

The Flame Zone is a Concentration Camp??


Funny, 'coz I haven't seen a whole helluvalotta concentration going on in here

 

[ConHog]

I wondered where this thread went. The cuckoo forumn probably where it belongs. WOW

 

[Vast LWC]

"No one is known to have protested the fact that three blocks from ground zero, on Murray Street off West Broadway, there is a strip joint. It prefers to call itself a gentlemen’s club. A man stood on the street corner the other day handing out free passes to willing gentlemen."

NY Dolls! Great strip joint! LOL.

"On Church Street, around the corner from where Cordoba House would rise, there is a store that sells pornographic videos and an assortment of sex toys. A few doors east of the planned Islamic center, there is an Off-Track Betting office. Spilling onto the sidewalk in front of it the other day were men who would have been described in my old Bronx neighborhood as degenerate gamblers."

Religion no. Lap dances yes. Hypocrisy Indeed!!

HyppNYC - An Islamic Center, and What Belongs by Ground Zero - NYTimes.com

And none of these are on ground zero.

Have any of you actually been down to Ground Zero? The area it covers is huge (for New York City), and it's right in the middle of one of the most densely populated areas in the US.

Saying you can't have a center of worship near Ground Zero, when related to the amount of people that would be denied rights to worship, is like saying there can't be a place of worship in the state of Wyoming.