HW Bush broke his central campaign promise, as did Trump with the wall, Trump will also serve 1 term

The economy was soaring even before the tax cuts. But you know what else soared after the tax cuts?

The Deficit
Wanna talk deficit soaring ? OK. here are the biggest deficit increases (other than the World War II years), over the past 90 years >>

2009 - 9.8%

2010 - 8.6%

2011 - 8.3%

In contrast, 2017, was 3.4%

Is the U.S. Budget Deficit Really That Bad?

And no, the economy was NOT soaring before the tax cuts. Before the tax cuts was 2016, when the (Obama) economy was sinking.

united-states-gdp-growth.png
Idiot.

The total deficit drove the debt up from 20,244,900,016,054 to 21,516,058,183,180

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2018

That's a 6.3% increase not 3.4%

On top of which, you're counting FY2009. which started as Bush's budget. And on top of that, you're moronically comparing years while the country was in a massive recession, where millions of jobs were lost, and climbing out of it; with now, where the economy is growing.

And even worse for you rightards -- any increase in debt during strong employment growth and following a tax cut, according to rightwingnuts, should lower the deficit, not drive it up further. This completely and utterly destroys the rightwing myth that tax cuts grow tax revenue.
 
Moon Bats are confused about this.

Bush decided all on his own that Americans should give more of their hard earned money to the filthy ass government bureaucrats. He paid the price.

Trump is working as hard as he can to stop illegals from overrunning our country. However, he doesn't control the funding. Only Congress does. The filthy Democrats, aided by some weak minded RINOs, refused to fund the wall and that is on them, not Trump. Americans understand that.
Incorrect. Clinton promised tax hikes, as they were necessary after Reagan destroyed the economy. People were just sick of Republicans screwing the country.

Clinton also cut the capital gains rate so he did cut taxes. Bush lost because he had no plan to get the economy moving. If Bush had been smart, he would have dumped Quayle and added Jack Kemp to the ticket.
 
”Bush did increase tax, which in turn caused an economic downturn during his last few months of his administration.”

LOLOL

You cons are delirious.

Bush raised taxes during a recession. After taxes were raised, the economy improved and we came out of the recession in March, 1991, nearly 2 years before Bush left office.

GDP:
1990Q4 -3.6 <-- tax hike, 11/1990
1991Q1 -1.9
1991Q2 3.2
1991Q3 2.0
1991Q4 1.4
1992Q1 4.9
1992Q2 4.4
1992Q3 4.0
1992Q4 4.2 <-- what you called, "economic downturn"

Then Clinton came in, raised taxes more, and the economy soared.
And they always seem to forget that Raygun also increased taxes to pay for his overwhelming debt.

Reagan agreed to a compromise in which $2 in spending was cut for every dollar in tax increases. Democrats reneged. Reagan refused to raise the tax rates so there were some excise tax increases.
 
A 1000 mile wall would have a 1000 tunnels underneath it as soon as it was built. It would end up being the most expensive, laughable boondoggle in this nation's history.

The only way to secure the border is with more border patrol stations and the use of high tech motion detectors. Something they can see, can and will always be compromised, something they can't see won't even be attempted.
Tunnels under the border are no great way for anybody to border cross. There are plenty of methods for stopping tunnel building. Since 1990, the U.S. has discovered more than 150 tunnels. There have been tunnels discovered by immigration officials. They have put out a fact sheet saying how tunnels can be discovered. They can include four general methods of detecting tunnels:

Seismic activity (low-frequency digging noises and tunnel transit noises)
  • Magnetic anomaly (electrical power lines in the tunnel, metal digging tools or metal shoring)
  • Acoustic activity (higher frequency noises)
  • Density anomalies (the tunnel is a hole, and so the amount of earth below the surface changes when you dig a tunnel)
Lots of technology and perhaps find out who is purchasing digging equipment from Alibaba, or similar sites, to keep up with the tunneling technology. Surveillance of local hardware stores in Mexico is a basic but effective means of finding out who is purchasing any old-fashioned digging equipment.
And most tunnels are discovered from good, old-fashioned spy technology. In other words, people reporting on tunnel making. :biggrin:
 
Bush voluntarily agreed to a tax increase. Trump did NOT break his promise to build the wall, Democrats have simply blocked his efforts. And the American VOTERS know this.
 


So you're comparing "read my lips no new taxes"---to I am going to build a 1000 mile wall that Mexico is going to pay for I assume.

But it wasn't really taxes that gave GHW just a 1st term The economy turned on him, unemployment numbers rose. Bush Sr. was only the 2nd President in this nations history that followed a sitting President (Ronald Reagan into office.) The phrase after GHW lost was ("it's the economy stupid") that's where that phrase came from. .Bush Sr. is well respected in this country. He was a very kind, thoughtful President, and was coming down off a very high approval rating after the Gulf war. But the economy turned and enter Bill Clinton.

The Clinton's and the Bush's remain close friends. It's evident in their comments toward each other. Barbara Bush often referred to Bill Clinton as her 3rd son, and Bill Clinton stated he would would walk across hot coals barefoot if Barbara Bush wanted him too. It's was evident when the 1st lady's were together, Hillary Clinton would always stand close to Barbara Bush--even helping her in her old age walk around so she didn't stumble and fall.

In fact Bush Sr. & Barbara both voted for Hillary Clinton. They couldn't stand Donald Trump.
George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary Clinton

Barbara Bush's comments toward Trump.


George Bush Sr. & Barbara were married for 73 YEARS!

Bush Sr. is one of the best Presidents of the 20th century. He insisted that other countries pay for the Gulf war, when Sadam invaded Kuwait, and they did. He worked with Hillary Clinton to put a huge dent in defeating aids in Africa.

Very honorable man, and coming out the Greatest Generation WW2

list-7-presidential-war-stories-george-bush.jpg

May Bush Sr. & Barbara rest in peace. They both served their country well.

Compared to the Ass Clown who sits in the Oval office, that stated his personal Viet Nam was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.
Trump's Vulgar Admission: Avoiding STDs was "my personal Vietnam" with "few uninfected" women

635730056916765487-2015.07.20.trumponmccain-v2.jpg


I just hope this POS doesn't dishonor GHW Bush by showing up at his funeral.

And as usual, another ABNORMAL LIES!!!

THE WALL BEING BUILT SLOWLY FOR NOW!
National Review ^


The U.S. government is currently installing sections of Trump’s 30-foot-high wall in three places.

The good news for those who wish to see a wall built along the U.S.–Mexican border is that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has built seven miles of 30-foot-high wall in the past few months, and roughly 30 more miles of high fencing are slated for construction.

The bad news is that there’s still a lot of border to go.

New reports from Carlos Diaz, southwest branch chief of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, indicate that one of the three current wall projects is nearly complete, another is about a quarter of the way done, and one just began earlier this month.

The first border-wall construction project began in February near downtown Calexico, Calif., roughly 120 miles east of San Diego. Here, construction contractor SWF Constructors, of Omaha, Neb., is putting up a 30-foot high “bollard-style wall” to replace 2.25 miles of wall built in the 1990s out of recycled scraps of metal and steel plates. (The bollard style uses bars, so that border patrol officers can see through to the other side.)

When construction began, the agency stated, “Although the existing wall has proven effective at deterring unlawful cross border activity, smuggling organizations damaged and breached this outdated version of a border wall several hundred times during the last two years, resulting in costly repairs.” When construction began, David Kim, assistant chief patrol agent for the Border Patrol’s El Centro sector, emphasized to local media that the construction was not tied to any particular immigration debate in Washington. It was, he said, a “local tactical infrastructure project that was planned for quite some time.”

This wall project, estimated to cost about $18 million, is approaching completion, with roughly 1.8 miles — 1,171 panels –...

Read more at nationalreview.com ..


ANDif he does only serve 1 term, that is ONE TERM MORE than the Hildebeast!!!



They're repairing existing walls. This is really a dead issue. If you can't get a full house of Republicans to fund a 1000 mile wall--the odds of getting a Democrat congress to fund it is ZERO TO NONE, especially with polls showing that the overwhelming majority don't want a wall.

It was Trump that continually promised that Mexico would pay for it. Now if you believed that one, you must be pretty stupid--because the Mexican President had told Trump publicly to fuck off on this at least 3 times--(before the election.)

Donald Trump has vowed that there will be a wall on the United States’ border with Mexico if and when he is president — “100 percent,” as he put it to Sean Hannity on Tuesday.But the percentage of Americans backing the edifice in a new Pew Research Center study on attitudes about immigration released Thursday is far lower: 36 percent. More than six in 10 — 61 percent — of the thousands of adults surveyed, said they oppose the construction of a wall along the entire border with Mexico, as Trump has proposed throughout his campaign. And 34 percent of voters identifying themselves as Republican or leaning toward the GOP said they opposed the wall, with 63 percent supporting.
Pew study: Majority of Americans still oppose Trump's wall

One of the main reasons Americans will not support a wall is because it won't work. In this 2-1/2 minute video, toward the end you'll see all of the tunnels that are easily dug underneath on existing fences & walls.



A 1000 mile wall would have a 1000 tunnels underneath it as soon as it was built. It would end up being the most expensive, laughable boondoggle in this nation's history.

The only way to secure the border is with more border patrol stations and the use of high tech motion detectors. Something they can see, can and will always be compromised, something they can't see won't even be attempted.

Tunnels under the border are no great way for anybody to border cross. There are plenty of methods for stopping tunnel building. Since 1990, the U.S. has discovered more than 150 tunnels. There have been tunnels discovered by immigration officials. They have put out a fact sheet saying how tunnels can be discovered. They can include four general methods of detecting tunnels:

Seismic activity (low-frequency digging noises and tunnel transit noises)
  • Magnetic anomaly (electrical power lines in the tunnel, metal digging tools or metal shoring)
  • Acoustic activity (higher frequency noises)
  • Density anomalies (the tunnel is a hole, and so the amount of earth below the surface changes when you dig a tunnel)
Lots of technology and perhaps find out who is purchasing digging equipment from Alibaba, or similar sites, to keep up with the tunneling technology. Surveillance of local hardware stores in Mexico is a basic but effective means of finding out who is purchasing any old-fashioned digging equipment.
And most tunnels are discovered from good, old-fashioned spy technology. In other words, people reporting on tunnel making. :biggrin:


:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg: Look the WALL is done. No one is going to fund it. Seismic activity on a shovel ain't going to happen.

You half brained Trump tards don't seem to know that Mexico has every piece of equipment we have. They have shovels, heavy equipment, ropes and caribeaners, block and tackle to get over fences and walls & underneath them. They do have Home Depot's in Mexico. They're experts are getting over & under things.

Drug lords will spend millions of dollars doing that. They're sitting in Mexico right now laughing their ass's off, hoping Trump builds his wall.

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The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

If you give them something they can see, they'll compromise it in one way or another. Something they can't see, they don't know what to do with. High tech motion detectors they can's see, so they're not going to waste time and money trying to compromise it.
 
The total deficit drove the debt up from 20,244,900,016,054 to 21,516,058,183,180

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2018

That's a 6.3% increase not 3.4%

On top of which, you're counting FY2009. which started as Bush's budget. And on top of that, you're moronically comparing years while the country was in a massive recession, where millions of jobs were lost, and climbing out of it; with now, where the economy is growing.

And even worse for you rightards -- any increase in debt during strong employment growth and following a tax cut, according to rightwingnuts, should lower the deficit, not drive it up further. This completely and utterly destroys the rightwing myth that tax cuts grow tax revenue.
Can you read ? My chart only went to 2017, not 2018.

Again, 2017 was 3.4% in contrast to Obama big deficits , and don't give me that recession crap. We're talking about deficits (you know spending too much - and on worthless crap like welfare for foreigners)

Why don't you just admit Obama was a dismal economic failure ?.., and this is what happens when you put a "community organizer" in the WH, instead of an accomplished business person.
 
The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

If you give them something they can see, they'll compromise it in one way or another. Something they can't see, they don't know what to do with. High tech motion detectors they can's see, so they're not going to waste time and money trying to compromise it.
They're already giving up on getting in here. Just from tear gas. :biggrin:

And tunnels ? No big deal. They'll just waste a lot of time and money. Home depot will be happy though. :rolleyes:
 
Bush voluntarily agreed to a tax increase. Trump did NOT break his promise to build the wall, Democrats have simply blocked his efforts. And the American VOTERS know this.
They'll find that out in 2020, after they predict a Trump defeat from their laughingstock polls.
 
Bush voluntarily agreed to a tax increase. Trump did NOT break his promise to build the wall, Democrats have simply blocked his efforts. And the American VOTERS know this.
They'll find that out in 2020, after they predict a Trump defeat from their laughingstock polls.


You're not going to see Trump in 2020--:auiqs.jpg: If he isn't impeached first Republicans are certain to primary him.
 
Bush voluntarily agreed to a tax increase. Trump did NOT break his promise to build the wall, Democrats have simply blocked his efforts. And the American VOTERS know this.
They'll find that out in 2020, after they predict a Trump defeat from their laughingstock polls.
They've underestimated him for 3 years now. You'd think they would learn.
 
Oddly enough, I have as much evidence, if not more, than you regarding your claim the Mexico will pay for the wall.
I mistakenly omitted the word "no"

The corrected post is >>you have no evidence for whatsoever, and you have no possible way to ever have evidence for it.

As for your latest idiotic statement how could you have evidence of Mexico not paying for the wall, when Mexico has no control over it ?
The evidence is in — the wall is not getting built because Mexico is not paying for it.

:dance:
 


So you're comparing "read my lips no new taxes"---to I am going to build a 1000 mile wall that Mexico is going to pay for I assume.

But it wasn't really taxes that gave GHW just a 1st term The economy turned on him, unemployment numbers rose. Bush Sr. was only the 2nd President in this nations history that followed a sitting President (Ronald Reagan into office.) The phrase after GHW lost was ("it's the economy stupid") that's where that phrase came from. .Bush Sr. is well respected in this country. He was a very kind, thoughtful President, and was coming down off a very high approval rating after the Gulf war. But the economy turned and enter Bill Clinton.

The Clinton's and the Bush's remain close friends. It's evident in their comments toward each other. Barbara Bush often referred to Bill Clinton as her 3rd son, and Bill Clinton stated he would would walk across hot coals barefoot if Barbara Bush wanted him too. It's was evident when the 1st lady's were together, Hillary Clinton would always stand close to Barbara Bush--even helping her in her old age walk around so she didn't stumble and fall.

In fact Bush Sr. & Barbara both voted for Hillary Clinton. They couldn't stand Donald Trump.
George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary Clinton

Barbara Bush's comments toward Trump.


George Bush Sr. & Barbara were married for 73 YEARS!

Bush Sr. is one of the best Presidents of the 20th century. He insisted that other countries pay for the Gulf war, when Sadam invaded Kuwait, and they did. He worked with Hillary Clinton to put a huge dent in defeating aids in Africa.

Very honorable man, and coming out the Greatest Generation WW2

list-7-presidential-war-stories-george-bush.jpg

May Bush Sr. & Barbara rest in peace. They both served their country well.

Compared to the Ass Clown who sits in the Oval office, that stated his personal Viet Nam was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.
Trump's Vulgar Admission: Avoiding STDs was "my personal Vietnam" with "few uninfected" women

635730056916765487-2015.07.20.trumponmccain-v2.jpg


I just hope this POS doesn't dishonor GHW Bush by showing up at his funeral.

And as usual, another ABNORMAL LIES!!!

THE WALL BEING BUILT SLOWLY FOR NOW!
National Review ^


The U.S. government is currently installing sections of Trump’s 30-foot-high wall in three places.

The good news for those who wish to see a wall built along the U.S.–Mexican border is that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has built seven miles of 30-foot-high wall in the past few months, and roughly 30 more miles of high fencing are slated for construction.

The bad news is that there’s still a lot of border to go.

New reports from Carlos Diaz, southwest branch chief of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, indicate that one of the three current wall projects is nearly complete, another is about a quarter of the way done, and one just began earlier this month.

The first border-wall construction project began in February near downtown Calexico, Calif., roughly 120 miles east of San Diego. Here, construction contractor SWF Constructors, of Omaha, Neb., is putting up a 30-foot high “bollard-style wall” to replace 2.25 miles of wall built in the 1990s out of recycled scraps of metal and steel plates. (The bollard style uses bars, so that border patrol officers can see through to the other side.)

When construction began, the agency stated, “Although the existing wall has proven effective at deterring unlawful cross border activity, smuggling organizations damaged and breached this outdated version of a border wall several hundred times during the last two years, resulting in costly repairs.” When construction began, David Kim, assistant chief patrol agent for the Border Patrol’s El Centro sector, emphasized to local media that the construction was not tied to any particular immigration debate in Washington. It was, he said, a “local tactical infrastructure project that was planned for quite some time.”

This wall project, estimated to cost about $18 million, is approaching completion, with roughly 1.8 miles — 1,171 panels –...

Read more at nationalreview.com ..


ANDif he does only serve 1 term, that is ONE TERM MORE than the Hildebeast!!!



They're repairing existing walls. This is really a dead issue. If you can't get a full house of Republicans to fund a 1000 mile wall--the odds of getting a Democrat congress to fund it is ZERO TO NONE, especially with polls showing that the overwhelming majority don't want a wall. It was Trump that continually promised that Mexico would pay for it. Now if you believed that one, you must be pretty stupid--because the Mexican President had told Trump publicly to fuck off on this at least 3 times.

Donald Trump has vowed that there will be a wall on the United States’ border with Mexico if and when he is president — “100 percent,” as he put it to Sean Hannity on Tuesday.But the percentage of Americans backing the edifice in a new Pew Research Center study on attitudes about immigration released Thursday is far lower: 36 percent. More than six in 10 — 61 percent — of the thousands of adults surveyed, said they oppose the construction of a wall along the entire border with Mexico, as Trump has proposed throughout his campaign. And 34 percent of voters identifying themselves as Republican or leaning toward the GOP said they opposed the wall, with 63 percent supporting.
Pew study: Majority of Americans still oppose Trump's wall

One of the main reasons Americans will not support a wall is because it won't work. In this 2-1/2 minute video, toward the end you'll see all of the tunnels that are easily dug underneath on existing fences & walls.



A 1000 mile wall would have a 1000 tunnels underneath it as soon as it was built. It would end up being the most expensive, laughable boondoggle in this nation's history.

The only way to secure the border is with more border patrol and the use of high tech motion detectors. Something they can see, can and will always be compromised, something they can't see won't even be attempted.

Real easy to bypass Congress, with having the military and HLS do it from their budgets..as you know it is a SECURITY ISSUE...you just might see Trump take off the gloves and bitch slap that bunch of cowards!

LOLOL

It’s gonna be damn near impossible once Democrats take control of the House next month.
 
Bush voluntarily agreed to a tax increase. Trump did NOT break his promise to build the wall, Democrats have simply blocked his efforts. And the American VOTERS know this.
Nope, Democrats don’t have enough control in the Bouse to block it and Republicans control the Senate, where they can eliminate the filibuster and push the measure through.

Grow a pair and stop blaming the party which can’t prevent the wall.
 
The total deficit drove the debt up from 20,244,900,016,054 to 21,516,058,183,180

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2018

That's a 6.3% increase not 3.4%

On top of which, you're counting FY2009. which started as Bush's budget. And on top of that, you're moronically comparing years while the country was in a massive recession, where millions of jobs were lost, and climbing out of it; with now, where the economy is growing.

And even worse for you rightards -- any increase in debt during strong employment growth and following a tax cut, according to rightwingnuts, should lower the deficit, not drive it up further. This completely and utterly destroys the rightwing myth that tax cuts grow tax revenue.
Can you read ? My chart only went to 2017, not 2018.

Again, 2017 was 3.4% in contrast to Obama big deficits , and don't give me that recession crap. We're talking about deficits (you know spending too much - and on worthless crap like welfare for foreigners)

Why don't you just admit Obama was a dismal economic failure ?.., and this is what happens when you put a "community organizer" in the WH, instead of an accomplished business person.
So you were referencing Obama’s budget when said it increased only 3.4%?

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... what a moron you are, gramps.

And we were talking about the effect of Trump’s tax cuts on the debt, which didn’t start until 2018.

Dayum, you one ignorant old fart. :badgrin:

Oh, and you’re an even bigger retard than most for wanting to ignore “that recession crap.” The recession lost 8 million jobs. Multiply that out by tax revenue not collected from 8 million former workers. That impacted the deficit bigly.
 
1 term Trump sounds good to me.

And I REALLY don't much care how that is accomplished. He is voted out, taken out in handcuffs, resigns, drops dead or is assassinated (in order of personal preference).

Trump is a danger to America and the world.

A man that stupid, dishonest and mentally unbalanced should not be Commander In Chief. A manchild should not be in control of the nuclear button.

One Term Trump.
 
Moon Bats are confused about this.

Bush decided all on his own that Americans should give more of their hard earned money to the filthy ass government bureaucrats. He paid the price.

Trump is working as hard as he can to stop illegals from overrunning our country. However, he doesn't control the funding. Only Congress does. The filthy Democrats, aided by some weak minded RINOs, refused to fund the wall and that is on them, not Trump. Americans understand that.
Incorrect. Clinton promised tax hikes, as they were necessary after Reagan destroyed the economy. People were just sick of Republicans screwing the country.


"Reagan destroyed the economy". LOL!

I swear you Moon Bats get more idiotic every day.

Increased taxes are never necessary. What is necessary is decreased spending. A concept you stupid Moon Bats never have understood, have you?

To correct your confusion

Read my lips: no new taxes - Wikipedia

The line later hurt Bush politically. Although he did oppose the creation of new taxes as president, the Democratic-controlled Congress proposed increases of existing taxes as a way to reduce the national budget deficit. Bush negotiated with Congress for a budget that met his pledge, but was unable to make a deal with a Senate and House that was controlled by the opposing Democrats. Bush agreed to a compromise, which increased several existing taxes as part of a 1990 budget agreement.[1]

Bush did increase tax, which in turn caused an economic downturn during his last few months of his administration.

Bush lost because he abandoned Conservative principles. He was a Progressive just like the filthy ass Democrats and he paid for it. Many Conservatives voted for an alternative and that is what gave that asshole Slick Willy the plurality win.

Trump is doing everything he can to stop the shithead Illegals from overrunning our country. The dipshit Democrat don't want to stop it because those are the future Democrat voters.
”Bush did increase tax, which in turn caused an economic downturn during his last few months of his administration.”

LOLOL

You cons are delirious.

Bush raised taxes during a recession. After taxes were raised, the economy improved and we came out of the recession in March, 1991, nearly 2 years before Bush left office.

GDP:
1990Q4 -3.6 <-- tax hike, 11/1990
1991Q1 -1.9
1991Q2 3.2
1991Q3 2.0
1991Q4 1.4
1992Q1 4.9
1992Q2 4.4
1992Q3 4.0
1992Q4 4.2 <-- what you called, "economic downturn"

Then Clinton came in, raised taxes more, and the economy soared.


History it appears to not be strong with you..


And why did the economy take off? It sure wasn't taxes it was inspite of them


.
 


So you're comparing "read my lips no new taxes"---to I am going to build a 1000 mile wall that Mexico is going to pay for I assume.

But it wasn't really taxes that gave GHW just a 1st term The economy turned on him, unemployment numbers rose. Bush Sr. was only the 2nd President in this nations history that followed a sitting President (Ronald Reagan into office.) The phrase after GHW lost was ("it's the economy stupid") that's where that phrase came from. .Bush Sr. is well respected in this country. He was a very kind, thoughtful President, and was coming down off a very high approval rating after the Gulf war. But the economy turned and enter Bill Clinton.

The Clinton's and the Bush's remain close friends. It's evident in their comments toward each other. Barbara Bush often referred to Bill Clinton as her 3rd son, and Bill Clinton stated he would would walk across hot coals barefoot if Barbara Bush wanted him too. It's was evident when the 1st lady's were together, Hillary Clinton would always stand close to Barbara Bush--even helping her in her old age walk around so she didn't stumble and fall.

In fact Bush Sr. & Barbara both voted for Hillary Clinton. They couldn't stand Donald Trump.
George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary Clinton

Barbara Bush's comments toward Trump.


George Bush Sr. & Barbara were married for 73 YEARS!

Bush Sr. is one of the best Presidents of the 20th century. He insisted that other countries pay for the Gulf war, when Sadam invaded Kuwait, and they did. He worked with Hillary Clinton to put a huge dent in defeating aids in Africa.

Very honorable man, and coming out the Greatest Generation WW2

list-7-presidential-war-stories-george-bush.jpg

May Bush Sr. & Barbara rest in peace. They both served their country well.

Compared to the Ass Clown who sits in the Oval office, that stated his personal Viet Nam was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.
Trump's Vulgar Admission: Avoiding STDs was "my personal Vietnam" with "few uninfected" women

635730056916765487-2015.07.20.trumponmccain-v2.jpg


I just hope this POS doesn't dishonor GHW Bush by showing up at his funeral.

And as usual, another ABNORMAL LIES!!!

THE WALL BEING BUILT SLOWLY FOR NOW!
National Review ^


The U.S. government is currently installing sections of Trump’s 30-foot-high wall in three places.

The good news for those who wish to see a wall built along the U.S.–Mexican border is that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has built seven miles of 30-foot-high wall in the past few months, and roughly 30 more miles of high fencing are slated for construction.

The bad news is that there’s still a lot of border to go.

New reports from Carlos Diaz, southwest branch chief of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, indicate that one of the three current wall projects is nearly complete, another is about a quarter of the way done, and one just began earlier this month.

The first border-wall construction project began in February near downtown Calexico, Calif., roughly 120 miles east of San Diego. Here, construction contractor SWF Constructors, of Omaha, Neb., is putting up a 30-foot high “bollard-style wall” to replace 2.25 miles of wall built in the 1990s out of recycled scraps of metal and steel plates. (The bollard style uses bars, so that border patrol officers can see through to the other side.)

When construction began, the agency stated, “Although the existing wall has proven effective at deterring unlawful cross border activity, smuggling organizations damaged and breached this outdated version of a border wall several hundred times during the last two years, resulting in costly repairs.” When construction began, David Kim, assistant chief patrol agent for the Border Patrol’s El Centro sector, emphasized to local media that the construction was not tied to any particular immigration debate in Washington. It was, he said, a “local tactical infrastructure project that was planned for quite some time.”

This wall project, estimated to cost about $18 million, is approaching completion, with roughly 1.8 miles — 1,171 panels –...

Read more at nationalreview.com ..


ANDif he does only serve 1 term, that is ONE TERM MORE than the Hildebeast!!!



They're repairing existing walls. This is really a dead issue. If you can't get a full house of Republicans to fund a 1000 mile wall--the odds of getting a Democrat congress to fund it is ZERO TO NONE, especially with polls showing that the overwhelming majority don't want a wall.

It was Trump that continually promised that Mexico would pay for it. Now if you believed that one, you must be pretty stupid--because the Mexican President had told Trump publicly to fuck off on this at least 3 times--(before the election.)

Donald Trump has vowed that there will be a wall on the United States’ border with Mexico if and when he is president — “100 percent,” as he put it to Sean Hannity on Tuesday.But the percentage of Americans backing the edifice in a new Pew Research Center study on attitudes about immigration released Thursday is far lower: 36 percent. More than six in 10 — 61 percent — of the thousands of adults surveyed, said they oppose the construction of a wall along the entire border with Mexico, as Trump has proposed throughout his campaign. And 34 percent of voters identifying themselves as Republican or leaning toward the GOP said they opposed the wall, with 63 percent supporting.
Pew study: Majority of Americans still oppose Trump's wall

One of the main reasons Americans will not support a wall is because it won't work. In this 2-1/2 minute video, toward the end you'll see all of the tunnels that are easily dug underneath on existing fences & walls.



A 1000 mile wall would have a 1000 tunnels underneath it as soon as it was built. It would end up being the most expensive, laughable boondoggle in this nation's history.

The only way to secure the border is with more border patrol stations and the use of high tech motion detectors. Something they can see, can and will always be compromised, something they can't see won't even be attempted.



So in your world Mexicans will dig a tunnel under a wall in the middle of nowhere?


For what purpose, why wouldn't they dig a tunnel under a wall that's easy to get at?


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So you're comparing "read my lips no new taxes"---to I am going to build a 1000 mile wall that Mexico is going to pay for I assume.

But it wasn't really taxes that gave GHW just a 1st term The economy turned on him, unemployment numbers rose. Bush Sr. was only the 2nd President in this nations history that followed a sitting President (Ronald Reagan into office.) The phrase after GHW lost was ("it's the economy stupid") that's where that phrase came from. .Bush Sr. is well respected in this country. He was a very kind, thoughtful President, and was coming down off a very high approval rating after the Gulf war. But the economy turned and enter Bill Clinton.

The Clinton's and the Bush's remain close friends. It's evident in their comments toward each other. Barbara Bush often referred to Bill Clinton as her 3rd son, and Bill Clinton stated he would would walk across hot coals barefoot if Barbara Bush wanted him too. It's was evident when the 1st lady's were together, Hillary Clinton would always stand close to Barbara Bush--even helping her in her old age walk around so she didn't stumble and fall.

In fact Bush Sr. & Barbara both voted for Hillary Clinton. They couldn't stand Donald Trump.
George H.W. Bush to vote for Hillary Clinton

Barbara Bush's comments toward Trump.


George Bush Sr. & Barbara were married for 73 YEARS!

Bush Sr. is one of the best Presidents of the 20th century. He insisted that other countries pay for the Gulf war, when Sadam invaded Kuwait, and they did. He worked with Hillary Clinton to put a huge dent in defeating aids in Africa.

Very honorable man, and coming out the Greatest Generation WW2

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May Bush Sr. & Barbara rest in peace. They both served their country well.

Compared to the Ass Clown who sits in the Oval office, that stated his personal Viet Nam was avoiding sexually transmitted diseases.
Trump's Vulgar Admission: Avoiding STDs was "my personal Vietnam" with "few uninfected" women

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I just hope this POS doesn't dishonor GHW Bush by showing up at his funeral.

And as usual, another ABNORMAL LIES!!!

THE WALL BEING BUILT SLOWLY FOR NOW!
National Review ^


The U.S. government is currently installing sections of Trump’s 30-foot-high wall in three places.

The good news for those who wish to see a wall built along the U.S.–Mexican border is that U.S. Customs and Border Protection has built seven miles of 30-foot-high wall in the past few months, and roughly 30 more miles of high fencing are slated for construction.

The bad news is that there’s still a lot of border to go.

New reports from Carlos Diaz, southwest branch chief of the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, indicate that one of the three current wall projects is nearly complete, another is about a quarter of the way done, and one just began earlier this month.

The first border-wall construction project began in February near downtown Calexico, Calif., roughly 120 miles east of San Diego. Here, construction contractor SWF Constructors, of Omaha, Neb., is putting up a 30-foot high “bollard-style wall” to replace 2.25 miles of wall built in the 1990s out of recycled scraps of metal and steel plates. (The bollard style uses bars, so that border patrol officers can see through to the other side.)

When construction began, the agency stated, “Although the existing wall has proven effective at deterring unlawful cross border activity, smuggling organizations damaged and breached this outdated version of a border wall several hundred times during the last two years, resulting in costly repairs.” When construction began, David Kim, assistant chief patrol agent for the Border Patrol’s El Centro sector, emphasized to local media that the construction was not tied to any particular immigration debate in Washington. It was, he said, a “local tactical infrastructure project that was planned for quite some time.”

This wall project, estimated to cost about $18 million, is approaching completion, with roughly 1.8 miles — 1,171 panels –...

Read more at nationalreview.com ..


ANDif he does only serve 1 term, that is ONE TERM MORE than the Hildebeast!!!



They're repairing existing walls. This is really a dead issue. If you can't get a full house of Republicans to fund a 1000 mile wall--the odds of getting a Democrat congress to fund it is ZERO TO NONE, especially with polls showing that the overwhelming majority don't want a wall.

It was Trump that continually promised that Mexico would pay for it. Now if you believed that one, you must be pretty stupid--because the Mexican President had told Trump publicly to fuck off on this at least 3 times--(before the election.)

Donald Trump has vowed that there will be a wall on the United States’ border with Mexico if and when he is president — “100 percent,” as he put it to Sean Hannity on Tuesday.But the percentage of Americans backing the edifice in a new Pew Research Center study on attitudes about immigration released Thursday is far lower: 36 percent. More than six in 10 — 61 percent — of the thousands of adults surveyed, said they oppose the construction of a wall along the entire border with Mexico, as Trump has proposed throughout his campaign. And 34 percent of voters identifying themselves as Republican or leaning toward the GOP said they opposed the wall, with 63 percent supporting.
Pew study: Majority of Americans still oppose Trump's wall

One of the main reasons Americans will not support a wall is because it won't work. In this 2-1/2 minute video, toward the end you'll see all of the tunnels that are easily dug underneath on existing fences & walls.



A 1000 mile wall would have a 1000 tunnels underneath it as soon as it was built. It would end up being the most expensive, laughable boondoggle in this nation's history.

The only way to secure the border is with more border patrol stations and the use of high tech motion detectors. Something they can see, can and will always be compromised, something they can't see won't even be attempted.

Tunnels under the border are no great way for anybody to border cross. There are plenty of methods for stopping tunnel building. Since 1990, the U.S. has discovered more than 150 tunnels. There have been tunnels discovered by immigration officials. They have put out a fact sheet saying how tunnels can be discovered. They can include four general methods of detecting tunnels:

Seismic activity (low-frequency digging noises and tunnel transit noises)
  • Magnetic anomaly (electrical power lines in the tunnel, metal digging tools or metal shoring)
  • Acoustic activity (higher frequency noises)
  • Density anomalies (the tunnel is a hole, and so the amount of earth below the surface changes when you dig a tunnel)
Lots of technology and perhaps find out who is purchasing digging equipment from Alibaba, or similar sites, to keep up with the tunneling technology. Surveillance of local hardware stores in Mexico is a basic but effective means of finding out who is purchasing any old-fashioned digging equipment.
And most tunnels are discovered from good, old-fashioned spy technology. In other words, people reporting on tunnel making. :biggrin:


:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg: Look the WALL is done. No one is going to fund it. Seismic activity on a shovel ain't going to happen.

You half brained Trump tards don't seem to know that Mexico has every piece of equipment we have. They have shovels, heavy equipment, ropes and caribeaners, block and tackle to get over fences and walls & underneath them. They do have Home Depot's in Mexico. They're experts are getting over & under things.

Drug lords will spend millions of dollars doing that. They're sitting in Mexico right now laughing their ass's off, hoping Trump builds his wall.

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The ins and outs of U.S.-Mexico border tunnels

If you give them something they can see, they'll compromise it in one way or another. Something they can't see, they don't know what to do with. High tech motion detectors they can's see, so they're not going to waste time and money trying to compromise it.



If they are so good why does the USA keep finding them?



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