Hundreds of Iraqis Take to Street to Protest Government

[Modbert]

They love us! They really really love us!

Hundreds of Iraqis Take to Street to Protest Government - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com

The protests came as the Iraqi government is struggling to restore infrastructure after years of neglect, corruption and insurgent attacks, as well as rebuild their security forces ahead of a planned American withdrawal in 2011.

About 200 demonstrators took to the streets in central Baghdad, chanting: "No water, no electricity in the country of oil and the two rivers," referring to Iraq's ancient name.

I wonder if the Iraqi Election will be stolen like the Afghanistan one.

 

[elvis]

They had something like this in Washington a few weeks ago. you know when they had pictures of Obama with socialist written underneath?

 

[Si modo]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

 

[Modbert]

They had something like this in Washington a few weeks ago. you know when they had pictures of Obama with socialist written underneath?

These people aren't marching for the same thing though. Unless the tea party people were marching for electricity and clean water.

 

[Modbert]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

It's all cool until they begin to assembly and protest to take away more women's rights. Though yes, that was the irony of this thread. They're protesting for better conditions for if this happened under Saddam than they would of been shot.

Though to be fair, they didn't have to protest for these things under Saddam. They already had them if I remember correctly.

 

[Xenophon]

It will be a great day when no more American troops have to be in that perpetual shithole.

 

[Si modo]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

It's all cool until they begin to assembly and protest to take away more women's rights. Though yes, that was the irony of this thread. They're protesting for better conditions for if this happened under Saddam than they would of been shot.

Though to be fair, they didn't have to protest for these things under Saddam. They already had them if I remember correctly.

"Better even to die free than to live slaves."

 

[rdean]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

It's all cool until they begin to assembly and protest to take away more women's rights. Though yes, that was the irony of this thread. They're protesting for better conditions for if this happened under Saddam than they would of been shot.

Though to be fair, they didn't have to protest for these things under Saddam. They already had them if I remember correctly.

"Better even to die free than to live slaves."

The sad truth is that under Saddam, women could go anywhere and hold any job. Under the American supported Islamic government, women have bee reduced to less than second class citizens.

Many of the Christians who haven't fled have been slaughtered. Christian women forced to convert to Islam. Christian churches burned.

Islam is now the "National Religion" and by law, ALL LEGISLATION IS BASED ON ISLAM, Article 2 and 3 of the US supported Iraqi constitution.

The US, for no apparent reason, leveled that country and stood by while Iraqi Christians were reduced from 1.4 million to less than 500 thousand. There is no other word for that except genocide.

And no American can possibly believe that a country that murdered and drove away their own Christian population would ever be a friend to this country which identifies itself as at least 80% Christian. It's ludicrous.

The US has created a deep enemy of this country whose hatred will last for generations.

Can someone toss me a pair of shoes?

 

[JW Frogen]

It will be a great day when no more American troops have to be in that perpetual shithole.

I think everyone agrees on that, the sticky point is how and what does America leave?

 

[Xenophon]

The sad truth is that under Saddam, women could go anywhere and hold any job. Under the American supported Islamic government, women have bee reduced to less than second class citizens.

With the caveat that I oppose this stupid war, this is 100% wrong and one of the many bits of propaganda that were floated about Saddam's Iraq.

It was a Sunni dictatorship, the majority of the people are Shia in the south, the woman could NOT 'go anywhere they wanted or have any job' from any of the religious sects, such provisions existed only on paper.

If you really want to compare what Saddam's Iraq was, start with Nazi Germany, Saddam's Sunni being the aryans and everyone else would be the Jews.

Understand what Iraq really was under Saddam.

I opposed the war as I felt that this is NOT US business, the people there would NEVER support foreign troops fighting in their country even for them and knew it would end up being a long drawn out affair that would have no clear winner.

But plese, stoip trying to claim Iraq was 'better' under Saddam, it was only if you were a Sunni male.

 

[Si modo]

It's all cool until they begin to assembly and protest to take away more women's rights. Though yes, that was the irony of this thread. They're protesting for better conditions for if this happened under Saddam than they would of been shot.

Though to be fair, they didn't have to protest for these things under Saddam. They already had them if I remember correctly.

"Better even to die free than to live slaves."

The sad truth is that under Saddam, women could go anywhere and hold any job. Under the American supported Islamic government, women have bee reduced to less than second class citizens.

Many of the Christians who haven't fled have been slaughtered. Christian women forced to convert to Islam. Christian churches burned.

Islam is now the "National Religion" and by law, ALL LEGISLATION IS BASED ON ISLAM, Article 2 and 3 of the US supported Iraqi constitution.

The US, for no apparent reason, leveled that country and stood by while Iraqi Christians were reduced from 1.4 million to less than 500 thousand. There is no other word for that except genocide.

And no American can possibly believe that a country that murdered and drove away their own Christian population would ever be a friend to this country which identifies itself as at least 80% Christian. It's ludicrous.

The US has created a deep enemy of this country whose hatred will last for generations.

Can someone toss me a pair of shoes?

The sad truth is under Saddam, this protest would never occur.

The sad truth under Saddam, that reporter would have been shot.






As I said, I would rather live free than die a slave. And, I would take hardship and freedom - and the right to struggle for more - in exchange for comfort and oppression with no possibility of change.


Another quote from a great man who spoke often of freedom and far more eloquently than I could ever hope to do: "Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will."

 

[LibocalypseNow]

200?? Pretty tiny protest no? 200 out of a population of Millions? Not sure if there is a real or coherent point to this post. Is this tiny protest a good thing or a bad thing? Iraqis are now free to protest their Government. Sounds like this post is just trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill to me. Hey just my take anyway.

 

[DiamondDave]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

Yep.. that alone shows that we have been successful in our tasks over there....

Was never about forming some puppet government (as the left wing loonies will try and tell you)... but to help them set up a free government

 

[Annie]

Imagine that. Iraqis exercising their right to assembly and protest? Cool.

Yep.. that alone shows that we have been successful in our tasks over there....

Was never about forming some puppet government (as the left wing loonies will try and tell you)... but to help them set up a free government

Exactly:

Iraq: The People Are Very Upset

The People Are Very Upset

October 11, 2009: The overall level of violence in the country continues to decline, despite the occasional terrorist bombing. This has led to continued economic growth, and more Iraqis are using their freedom of movement, and action, to protest government incompetence. The inept performance of elected and appointed officials is more stark in Iraq, where economic freedom has created many spectacularly successful entrepreneurs, and a growing middle class. Thus it is obvious that Iraqis can get things done, and more Iraqis are openly upset at the poor performance of their elected officials. People are also very unhappy about the ability of criminal gangs to kidnap and rob the newly affluent. While the very rich can hire security guards, the middle class is dependent on the police and other security forces. It is believed that the cops are paid off by criminal gangs, and the population is not happy with this.

The government is certainly inept in the way it handles money. With the collapse of oil prices in the last year, officials were slow to adapt. Now there are shortages everywhere in the government, especially in the security forces. This is having an impact on how effective the police are, and how safe the citizens are. Iraqis are fed up with this sort of thing, but slow to realize that it takes a country full of responsible people to create a responsible society.

Iraqis are confused about the sudden surge of terror bombings in western Anbar province. Long an al Qaeda stronghold, over the last two years, the locals have turned, often violently, against the terrorists. The new violence is believed to be partly political, as new parties use violence to make incumbent politicians look bad. People believe that because politics has always been pretty dirty in this part of the country.

 

[rdean]

The sad truth is that under Saddam, women could go anywhere and hold any job. Under the American supported Islamic government, women have bee reduced to less than second class citizens.

With the caveat that I oppose this stupid war, this is 100% wrong and one of the many bits of propaganda that were floated about Saddam's Iraq.

It was a Sunni dictatorship, the majority of the people are Shia in the south, the woman could NOT 'go anywhere they wanted or have any job' from any of the religious sects, such provisions existed only on paper.

If you really want to compare what Saddam's Iraq was, start with Nazi Germany, Saddam's Sunni being the aryans and everyone else would be the Jews.

Understand what Iraq really was under Saddam.

I opposed the war as I felt that this is NOT US business, the people there would NEVER support foreign troops fighting in their country even for them and knew it would end up being a long drawn out affair that would have no clear winner.

But plese, stoip trying to claim Iraq was 'better' under Saddam, it was only if you were a Sunni male.

You guys are living in screwy "La la" land.You can't find a single article anywhere that says women in Iraq have it better. Or Christians. This has been a disaster.

When Iraq wrote that awful constitution, remember what Bush said? "We can't tell them how to govern themselves". Yet, isn't that EXACTLY what we did when we leveled their country?

Republicans have totally lost it. They see the world as they want to, NOT how it is. They are like a bull in a China shop, thrashing about and breaking everything they can and then looking back and saying, "There, DONE!" And believing they fixed something.

JURIST - Paper Chase: Iraq women's rights better under Saddam: survey

IRAQ: Saddam Better for Women - IPS ipsnews.net

IRAQ: Saddam Better for Women
By Sanjay Suri

LONDON, Mar 29 (IPS) - Women were far better off under former Iraq dictator Saddam Hussein, a women's group has found after an extensive survey in Iraq.

''Under the previous dictator regime, the basic rights for women were enshrined in the constitution,'' Houzan Mahmoud from the Organisation of Women's Freedom in Iraq told IPS in an interview. The group is a sister organization of MADRE, an international women's rights group.

Under Saddam, she said, ''women could go out to work, university and get married or divorced in civil courts. But at the moment women have lost almost all their rights and are being pushed back into the corner of their house.''

The recent constitution which was written under the U.S. government's supervision is ''very backward and anti-women,'' Mahmoud said. ''They make Islam the source for law making, and the main official religion of the country. This in itself means Islamic Sharia law and according to this women will be considered second-class citizens and will have no power in deciding over their lives.''

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In the face of all reason, in spite of rational thought, Republicans will go down fighting. Hopefully, when they do go down, they don't take everyone with them.

 

[dilloduck]

Tell Obama to get us the hell out of there then and don't tell me it can't be done because of Bush. He's the CIC and can do whatever the hell he wants.

 

[Sunni Man]

I think it is so funny

Saddam was a dedicated to secularism as was the Bath Party.

He intensely disliked Islam. And made Iraq a secular based nation.

While Saddam was in power. Almost as many women attended the universities as men.

They were not required to wear the head scarf, and had equal rights with men.


Since the invasion, the people have reverted back to Islam and the country has an Islamic Constitution

 

[rdean]

Tell Obama to get us the hell out of there then and don't tell me it can't be done because of Bush. He's the CIC and can do whatever the hell he wants.

What are you, about 9?

Bush and the Republicans signed contracts and treaties. The US is obligated.

It's why Bush was careful to void regulations for clean air and clean water more than 60 days before he left office. Less than 60 days and the new president could have stopped him.

 

[rdean]

I think it is so funny

Saddam was a dedicated to secularism as was the Bath Party.

He intensely disliked Islam. And made Iraq a secular based nation.

While Saddam was in power. Almost as many women attended the universities as men.

They were not required to wear the head scarf, and had equal rights with men.


Since the invasion, the people have reverted back to Islam and the country has an Islamic Constitution

Actually, because of his actions, it would seem that Saddam disliked Islam, however, I have a different take.

With roughly a third being Kurd (a sect of Sunni) and a third Shiite and a small third Sunni and there being Christians and those of other religions, Saddam had an obligation to have the appearance of a secular type government to avoid the appearance of partisanship.

Saddam killed members of his own family to stay in power. When those on the right suggest that Saddam and Bin Laden were friends, it just amazes me.

Bin Laden wanted to head the force that would drive Saddam from Kuwait. Instead, that turned out to be the Americans. Thank God, otherwise, Bin Laden would be in charge of wealthy Kuwait. There was some foresight from Bush Sr. who is rarely given the credit he deserves. Bush humbled Iraq and made it no danger to the US as well as freed Kuwait. It's his son that showed the apple can fall very far from the tree.

 

[Xenophon]

You guys are living in screwy "La la" land.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Ever been to Iraq?

I have, 6 times, 4 of them while it was run by Saddam.

Learn something, people like you are so thick its unreal.