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Yes, well in order for the graph to go down, land based glaciers would have to be growing, thus removing water from the seas.
Lower altitude areas in Australia.. I bet you had to search real hard for this... LOL...More stinky facts from the ample ass of Silly Billy. LOL75 of the old glacial areas again have multiyear ice on them right here in the Good Old USA.. and just in the last three years.... They are indeed growing again..On a NASA page intended to spread climate alarmism (Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Sea Level), NASA’s own data reveal that worldwide ocean levels have been falling for nearly two years, dropping from a variation of roughly 87.5mm to below 85mm.Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, ...
Who feeds you this nonsense, and why are you stupid enough to fall for it?
NASA Confirms Falling Sea Levels For Two Years Amidst Media Blackout
That would be NASA...
This data clearly contradicts the false narrative of rapid, never-ending rising ocean levels that flood continents and drown cities.The narrative is climate alarmists key element of the climate change fear mongering fiction that’s used to scare gullible youth into making Al Gore rich.
NASA Confirms Falling Sea Levels For Two Years Amidst Media Blackout
LOL Look at the graph, several places where the rise levels off, or even declines, then continues on it's upward course. You, and the fellow that wrote the article are full of shit. The graph demonstrates that.
Yes, well in order for the graph to go down, land based glaciers would have to be growing, thus removing water from the seas. Of course you and your ilk vehemently deny that is happening, so you have to admit one is a lie or the other.
Bachfallenferner, Austria: 2017 Illustrates Why Glacier is Forecast to Not Survive - From a Glacier's Perspective
Comparison of Bachfallenferner (B) in Landsat images from 1990 and 2017. The red arrow indicates the 1990 terminus position and yellow dots the 2017 terminus. Note there is no retained snowcover in 2017 and a new lake has formed due to retreat. Other glaciers that lost all snowcover in 2017 L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner
Bachfallenferner is in the Stubaier Alpen, Austria. The glacier terminus fluctuations are examined annually and reported by the Austrian Alpine Club Fischer (2016) and Fischer (2017), with all 11 glacier in the Stubaier area retreating in 2015 and 2016. Fischer and Kuhn (2012) surveyed the thickness of 64 alpine glaciers in Austria including Bachfallenferner, with a goal of determining volume. They found in 2000 the glacier had an area of 2.08 square kilometers, with an average thickness of 41 m yielding a volume of .085 cubic kilometers.
In 1990 Bachfallenferner ended on an outwash Plain at 2700 m. The glacier was 2350 m long in 1990 with a width of 1100 m at its mid-point. By 1999 a small sublacial lake has formed at the terminus, the lower 0.8 kilometer of the glacier is uncrevassed and relatively stagnant. In 1999 the snowcover the retained snowcover in late August covers 30% of the glacier. In 2015 the glacier retreat has led to the formation of a proglacial lake that is 275 m across. The glacier in late August is only 10-15% snowcovered. By 2017 the glacier has retreated 400 m from its 1990 location including 60 m in 2015 and 2016. More importantly the glacier by late August has lost all of its snowcover, as essentially have some of its neighbors: L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner. A glacier that does not consistently retain snowcover cannot survive (Pelto, 2010). The glacier is now less than 2 km long and at the 1990 mid-point is 800 m wide. Lateral recession in the lower 1 km of the glacier is similar to the rate of terminus recession. The maximum ice thickness in 2000 was 97 m Fischer and Kuhn (2012), which is likely to have lost no more than a meter per year, hence there is still some comparatively thick ice. The Stubaier Alpen has experienced substantial retreat in the last 30 years as have all Austrian Glaciers (Fischer et al.,2015). Bachfallenferner is larger than most of the Austrian glaciers that are currently disappearing such as Mittlerer Guslarferner.
And the glaciers in the US are doing exactly the same. Lying about that will not add one inch to the terminus.
Bachfallenferner is in the Stubaier Alpen, Austria. The glacier terminus fluctuations are examined annually and reported by the Austrian Alpine Club Fischer (2016) and Fischer (2017), with all 11 glacier in the Stubaier area retreating in 2015 and 2016. Fischer and Kuhn (2012) surveyed the thickness of 64 alpine glaciers in Austria including Bachfallenferner, with a goal of determining volume. They found in 2000 the glacier had an area of 2.08 square kilometers, with an average thickness of 41 m yielding a volume of .085 cubic kilometers.Lower altitude areas in Australia.. I bet you had to search real hard for this... LOL...More stinky facts from the ample ass of Silly Billy. LOL75 of the old glacial areas again have multiyear ice on them right here in the Good Old USA.. and just in the last three years.... They are indeed growing again..On a NASA page intended to spread climate alarmism (Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Sea Level), NASA’s own data reveal that worldwide ocean levels have been falling for nearly two years, dropping from a variation of roughly 87.5mm to below 85mm.
This data clearly contradicts the false narrative of rapid, never-ending rising ocean levels that flood continents and drown cities.The narrative is climate alarmists key element of the climate change fear mongering fiction that’s used to scare gullible youth into making Al Gore rich.
NASA Confirms Falling Sea Levels For Two Years Amidst Media Blackout
LOL Look at the graph, several places where the rise levels off, or even declines, then continues on it's upward course. You, and the fellow that wrote the article are full of shit. The graph demonstrates that.
Yes, well in order for the graph to go down, land based glaciers would have to be growing, thus removing water from the seas. Of course you and your ilk vehemently deny that is happening, so you have to admit one is a lie or the other.
Bachfallenferner, Austria: 2017 Illustrates Why Glacier is Forecast to Not Survive - From a Glacier's Perspective
Comparison of Bachfallenferner (B) in Landsat images from 1990 and 2017. The red arrow indicates the 1990 terminus position and yellow dots the 2017 terminus. Note there is no retained snowcover in 2017 and a new lake has formed due to retreat. Other glaciers that lost all snowcover in 2017 L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner
Bachfallenferner is in the Stubaier Alpen, Austria. The glacier terminus fluctuations are examined annually and reported by the Austrian Alpine Club Fischer (2016) and Fischer (2017), with all 11 glacier in the Stubaier area retreating in 2015 and 2016. Fischer and Kuhn (2012) surveyed the thickness of 64 alpine glaciers in Austria including Bachfallenferner, with a goal of determining volume. They found in 2000 the glacier had an area of 2.08 square kilometers, with an average thickness of 41 m yielding a volume of .085 cubic kilometers.
In 1990 Bachfallenferner ended on an outwash Plain at 2700 m. The glacier was 2350 m long in 1990 with a width of 1100 m at its mid-point. By 1999 a small sublacial lake has formed at the terminus, the lower 0.8 kilometer of the glacier is uncrevassed and relatively stagnant. In 1999 the snowcover the retained snowcover in late August covers 30% of the glacier. In 2015 the glacier retreat has led to the formation of a proglacial lake that is 275 m across. The glacier in late August is only 10-15% snowcovered. By 2017 the glacier has retreated 400 m from its 1990 location including 60 m in 2015 and 2016. More importantly the glacier by late August has lost all of its snowcover, as essentially have some of its neighbors: L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner. A glacier that does not consistently retain snowcover cannot survive (Pelto, 2010). The glacier is now less than 2 km long and at the 1990 mid-point is 800 m wide. Lateral recession in the lower 1 km of the glacier is similar to the rate of terminus recession. The maximum ice thickness in 2000 was 97 m Fischer and Kuhn (2012), which is likely to have lost no more than a meter per year, hence there is still some comparatively thick ice. The Stubaier Alpen has experienced substantial retreat in the last 30 years as have all Austrian Glaciers (Fischer et al.,2015). Bachfallenferner is larger than most of the Austrian glaciers that are currently disappearing such as Mittlerer Guslarferner.
And the glaciers in the US are doing exactly the same. Lying about that will not add one inch to the terminus.
"MODEL PREDICTIONS".....Bachfallenferner is in the Stubaier Alpen, Austria. The glacier terminus fluctuations are examined annually and reported by the Austrian Alpine Club Fischer (2016) and Fischer (2017), with all 11 glacier in the Stubaier area retreating in 2015 and 2016. Fischer and Kuhn (2012) surveyed the thickness of 64 alpine glaciers in Austria including Bachfallenferner, with a goal of determining volume. They found in 2000 the glacier had an area of 2.08 square kilometers, with an average thickness of 41 m yielding a volume of .085 cubic kilometers.Lower altitude areas in Australia.. I bet you had to search real hard for this... LOL...More stinky facts from the ample ass of Silly Billy. LOL75 of the old glacial areas again have multiyear ice on them right here in the Good Old USA.. and just in the last three years.... They are indeed growing again..On a NASA page intended to spread climate alarmism (Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Sea Level), NASA’s own data reveal that worldwide ocean levels have been falling for nearly two years, dropping from a variation of roughly 87.5mm to below 85mm.
This data clearly contradicts the false narrative of rapid, never-ending rising ocean levels that flood continents and drown cities.The narrative is climate alarmists key element of the climate change fear mongering fiction that’s used to scare gullible youth into making Al Gore rich.
NASA Confirms Falling Sea Levels For Two Years Amidst Media Blackout
LOL Look at the graph, several places where the rise levels off, or even declines, then continues on it's upward course. You, and the fellow that wrote the article are full of shit. The graph demonstrates that.
Yes, well in order for the graph to go down, land based glaciers would have to be growing, thus removing water from the seas. Of course you and your ilk vehemently deny that is happening, so you have to admit one is a lie or the other.
Bachfallenferner, Austria: 2017 Illustrates Why Glacier is Forecast to Not Survive - From a Glacier's Perspective
Comparison of Bachfallenferner (B) in Landsat images from 1990 and 2017. The red arrow indicates the 1990 terminus position and yellow dots the 2017 terminus. Note there is no retained snowcover in 2017 and a new lake has formed due to retreat. Other glaciers that lost all snowcover in 2017 L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner
Bachfallenferner is in the Stubaier Alpen, Austria. The glacier terminus fluctuations are examined annually and reported by the Austrian Alpine Club Fischer (2016) and Fischer (2017), with all 11 glacier in the Stubaier area retreating in 2015 and 2016. Fischer and Kuhn (2012) surveyed the thickness of 64 alpine glaciers in Austria including Bachfallenferner, with a goal of determining volume. They found in 2000 the glacier had an area of 2.08 square kilometers, with an average thickness of 41 m yielding a volume of .085 cubic kilometers.
In 1990 Bachfallenferner ended on an outwash Plain at 2700 m. The glacier was 2350 m long in 1990 with a width of 1100 m at its mid-point. By 1999 a small sublacial lake has formed at the terminus, the lower 0.8 kilometer of the glacier is uncrevassed and relatively stagnant. In 1999 the snowcover the retained snowcover in late August covers 30% of the glacier. In 2015 the glacier retreat has led to the formation of a proglacial lake that is 275 m across. The glacier in late August is only 10-15% snowcovered. By 2017 the glacier has retreated 400 m from its 1990 location including 60 m in 2015 and 2016. More importantly the glacier by late August has lost all of its snowcover, as essentially have some of its neighbors: L=Lisenser, A=Alpeiner and S=Sauischbachferner. A glacier that does not consistently retain snowcover cannot survive (Pelto, 2010). The glacier is now less than 2 km long and at the 1990 mid-point is 800 m wide. Lateral recession in the lower 1 km of the glacier is similar to the rate of terminus recession. The maximum ice thickness in 2000 was 97 m Fischer and Kuhn (2012), which is likely to have lost no more than a meter per year, hence there is still some comparatively thick ice. The Stubaier Alpen has experienced substantial retreat in the last 30 years as have all Austrian Glaciers (Fischer et al.,2015). Bachfallenferner is larger than most of the Austrian glaciers that are currently disappearing such as Mittlerer Guslarferner.
And the glaciers in the US are doing exactly the same. Lying about that will not add one inch to the terminus.
Bachfallenferner, Austria: 2017 Illustrates Why Glacier is Forecast to Not Survive - From a Glacier's Perspective
Damn, Silly Billy, I didn't realize that they spoke German in Australia. LOL Now everyone knows why you earned the name Silly.
WOW..Now Silly, I was not the one that put the Alps in Australia. LOL And, given you past record on prognostication, I don't think that you had better knock anyone else's predictions. Especially those of the scientists that have been pretty accurate.
CO2 is stored in the ocean? Really?I wonder why she left the SCIENCE OUT of her story?
I wonder why YOU left the caption and source off that graphic.
CO2 dissolved in the oceans, our soil and the biosphere is not "removed". A better descriptor might be "ready reserves".
CO2 is stored in the ocean? Really?I wonder why she left the SCIENCE OUT of her story?
I wonder why YOU left the caption and source off that graphic.
CO2 dissolved in the oceans, our soil and the biosphere is not "removed". A better descriptor might be "ready reserves".
Yes, I mean, surely people should know this. Know what happens if the Oceans die.
CO2 is stored in the ocean? Really?I wonder why she left the SCIENCE OUT of her story?
I wonder why YOU left the caption and source off that graphic.
CO2 dissolved in the oceans, our soil and the biosphere is not "removed". A better descriptor might be "ready reserves".
Yes, I mean, surely people should know this. Know what happens if the Oceans die.
I'd more concerned with plastics, sewerage and overfishing than oceanic CO2.
I love it... I show you physical evidence of growth and you quote an article saying their model is showing record loss.... LOL whom to believe... your fantasy lies or empirically OBSERVED evidence.. Idiot!God, you are one sorry lying ignorant fool, burgerflipper. In 2012, that glacier had a major calving event. It will have another soon, and then the terminus will be further upstream for a while than it was in 2012.
Petermann's Glacial History
Two huge glacier calving events have occurred at Petermann Glacier over the past 5 years, one in 2010 and another in 2012 [9, 10]. During each event a large portion of the floating ice tongue broke away and drifted out of the fjord, before finally melting and disintegrating in Baffin Bay. These twin calving events resulted in a glacier retreat of 35 km, the most retreated position since the area was first surveyed in 1875 [11, 8]. Glacier calving and retreat has prompted speculation about the glaciers future, a major motivation for the Petermann 2015 expedition. It is crucial that we understand whether these calving events are part of the natural cyclical behaviour of the glacier, or stem from external influences – either through climate or ocean warming. We hope to answer these questions by reconstructing the behaviour of the glacier, oceans, and climate over timescales of thousands of years, providing valuable context against which to assess the magnitude of current changes.
The devil is in the details.Global CO2 emissions 'stalled' in 2014
By Helen Briggs
Environment Correspondent
BBCNews.com
Wind turbines in China [Caption for photo that did not come along]
China is now by far the world's biggest investor in renewable energy, far outstripping the US
The growth in global carbon emissions stalled last year, according to data from the International Energy Agency.
It marks the first time in 40 years that annual CO2 emissions growth has remained stable, in the absence of a major economic crisis, the agency said.
Annual global emissions remained at 32 gigatonnes in 2014, unchanged from the previous year.
But the IEA warned that while the results were "encouraging", this was "no time for complacency".
"This is both a very welcome surprise and a significant one," said IEA Chief Economist Fatih Birol.
An important factor could be that China's coal consumption fell in 2014, driven by their efforts to fight pollution, use energy more efficiently and deploy renewables"
Prof Corinne Le Quere
Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
"It provides much-needed momentum to negotiators preparing to forge a global climate deal in Paris in December: for the first time, greenhouse gas emissions are decoupling from economic growth."
And IEA Executive Director Maria van der Hoeven said while the data was "encouraging", this was "no time for complacency" and "certainly not the time to use this positive news as an excuse to stall further action".
Changing patterns
Analysts attribute the slowdown in emissions to changing patterns of energy consumption in China and OECD countries.
Prof Corinne Le Quere, of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of East Anglia, said: "An important factor could be that China's coal consumption fell in 2014, driven by their efforts to fight pollution, use energy more efficiently and deploy renewables.
"Efforts to reduce emissions elsewhere will have played a role, but there are also more random factors such as the weather and the relative price of oil, coal and gas."
The IEA said changing patterns of energy use in China and in OECD countries, including the shift towards more renewable energy, was having the desired effect of decoupling economic growth from greenhouse emissions.
The Paris-based organisation said that in the 40 years it had been collecting data on carbon dioxide emissions, annual emissions had stalled or fallen only three other times, which were all associated with global downturns:
After the US recession in the early 1980s
In 1992 after the collapse of the former Soviet Union
In 2009 during the global financial crisis.
Greenhouse gas emissions may finally be decoupling from economic growth
Full details of the IEA report will be released in June, ahead of UN negotiations to sign a new international climate change agreement at talks in Paris in December.
Countries are aiming to reach agreement on a deal that will come into force from 2020.
The aim is to limit the increase of the average global surface temperature to no more than 2C (3.6F) compared with pre-industrial levels, to avoid "dangerous" climate change.
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This tickles me pink for several reasons:
How many times have we heard from the deniers here that all our efforts were pointless because China and India would never follow along. Yet here they are most determinedly in the lead.
And how many times have we heard that slowing fossil fuel consumption would destroy the world's industrial economies. Apparently not.
I still cant get over how CO2 is causing undersea volcanoes
I still cant get over how CO2 is causing undersea volcanoes
Frank, why do you think CO2 causes undersea volcanoes? You understand you look like a piss-slurping cultist for claiming something that stupid, right?
Oh wait. You're just being a butthurt troll, disrupting threads because you're too goddamn stupid to say anything intelligent. How about if you can't say something that isn't retarded, you say nothing at all? Consider it.
