Huge Scandal in Marines

[Psuedo1776]

Proof? Proof of any woman in the military doing that will suffice.

While it may not fulfill your perfect example of the firemen carry. I believe that this link (6 Women Who Fought In Direct Combat In Iraq And Afghanistan) should suffice as proof of women's abilities to be in the military. 1st Lt. Rebecca Turpin in particular should serve as an adequate example on why women should be allowed to serve. Whereas if you're more the action over calm thinking type then Pfc. Monica Lin Brown's story of saving her squad's lives should be all the proof you need.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

According to an investigation by Reveal News and The War Horse published March 4, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is investigating scores of enlisted Marines for compiling thousands of naked photos of servicewomen, often surreptitiously, and distributing them through Facebook and Google Drive.
The complaints to the Pentagon began on Jan. 30, less than a month after the first female enlistees reported for duty with a Marine infantry unit. The existence of the page’s activities, confirmed by the Department of Defense, was first uncovered by The War Horse editor-in-chief Tom Brennan, a Marine veteran himself. DoD Investigating Hundreds Of Marines For Sharing Explicit Photos Of Servicewomen On Social Media
‘I don't want to leave my house’: Victims haunted by Marines’ nude photo scandal

Well that didnt take long.....I hope they take sufficiently harsh tack on this so it doesnt become recurring issue

As long as it's not a fucking witch hunt then I have no problem with an investigation.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

According to an investigation by Reveal News and The War Horse published March 4, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is investigating scores of enlisted Marines for compiling thousands of naked photos of servicewomen, often surreptitiously, and distributing them through Facebook and Google Drive.
The complaints to the Pentagon began on Jan. 30, less than a month after the first female enlistees reported for duty with a Marine infantry unit. The existence of the page’s activities, confirmed by the Department of Defense, was first uncovered by The War Horse editor-in-chief Tom Brennan, a Marine veteran himself. DoD Investigating Hundreds Of Marines For Sharing Explicit Photos Of Servicewomen On Social Media
‘I don't want to leave my house’: Victims haunted by Marines’ nude photo scandal

Well that didnt take long.....I hope they take sufficiently harsh tack on this so it doesnt become recurring issue

Distribute naked photos of people is particularly bad. More from a moral point of view than a legal pov.
I thought in the military they had some kind of code of ethics but that's not true for all of them...

UCMJ can be more harsh than civilian law.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd don't mind a lil' cheesecake now an' then...

Marine Corps' Nude-Photo-Sharing Scandal Worse Than First Realized
10 Mar 2017 | Hundreds of nude photos of female service members from every branch have been posted to a message board that dates back to May.

The scandal that prompted an investigation into hundreds of Marines who are accused of sharing naked photographs of their colleagues in a private Facebook group is much larger than has been reported, Business Insider has learned. The practice of sharing such photos goes beyond the Marine Corps and one Facebook group. Hundreds of nude photos of female service members from every military branch have been posted to an image-sharing message board that dates back to at least May. A source informed Business Insider of the site's existence on Tuesday. The site, called AnonIB, has a dedicated board for military personnel that features dozens of threaded conversations among men, many of whom ask for "wins" -- naked photographs -- of specific female service members, often identifying the women by name or where they are stationed.

The revelation comes on the heels of an explosive story published on Saturday by the journalist Thomas Brennan. He reported on a Facebook group called Marines United, which was home to approximately 30,000 members who were sharing nude photos of colleagues along with personal information and even encouragement of sexual assault. The report led the Marine Corps to open an investigation, spurred widespread outrage in the media and in Congress, and prompted sharp condemnation from the Corps' top leaders. According to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, investigators are considering felony charges that could carry a maximum penalty of seven years in prison.

Marines practice marksmanship at Camp Geiger, N.C., during infantry training​

An official familiar with the matter told Business Insider that the Marine commandant, Gen. Robert Neller, would brief members of the House Armed Services Committee next week on the scandal. "We're examining some of our policies to see if we can make them punitive in nature," the official said, adding that the Corps was taking the issue very seriously.

A Facebook-group exodus leads to a message board's popularity

Brennan's story also led to an apparent exodus of members from the private Facebook group, though some appeared to have found the publicly viewable message board soon after -- with the express intent of finding the cache of nude images that Marines in the Facebook group were sharing. "Come on Marines share the wealth here before that site is nuked and all is lost," one anonymous user said in a post on Monday, two days after Brennan's story was published. Follow-up replies offered a link to a Dropbox folder named "Girls of MU" with thousands of photographs. Dropbox did not respond to a request for comment.

Members on the board often posted photos -- seemingly stolen from female service members' Instagram accounts -- before asking others if they had nude pictures of a female service member. For example, after posting the first name and photograph of a female soldier in uniform on January 21, one board member asked for "Army chick went to [redacted], ig is [redacted]." Another user, apparently frustrated that no pictures had yet been found, posted a few days later: "BUMP. Let's see them t------."

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Marines May Offer Reputation Software to Victims of Photo Scandal
10 Mar 2017 | The Marine Corps may offer reputation management tools to victims of a group that shared nude photos of female service members.

In addition to legal aid and support services, the Marine Corps may offer internet reputation management tools to victims of a Facebook group that shared nude and compromising photos of female service members and veterans without their consent, a defense official told Military.com Friday. In the days since independent site The War Horse broke the news that Marines United, a private group with 30,000 members, had engaged in this illicit and non-consensual sharing of photos and other personal information, both Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Robert Neller and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps Ronald Green have issued statements sternly condemning the behavior. While a Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigation continues into the active-duty troops who participated in the photo-sharing ring, behind the scenes Marine Corps leaders have been scrambling to articulate a way forward for the service.

In a "white letter" expected to be sent to commanders soon, the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. Neller will announce the formation of a task force, manned by officials from key agencies across Headquarters Marine Corps and led by Assistant Commandant Gen. Glenn Walters. The task force will be focused on steps to be taken in light of the incident, including immediate actions to care for victims of the photo-sharing ring. One of the options being considered, the official said, would provide women with so-called reputation management software, designed to protect a user's online presence from compromising information and bury damaging search engine results.

A U.S. Marine Staff drills recruits, Aug. 29, 2011, Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island.​

These tools, which use techniques ranging from flooding the internet with positive information related to an individual to advanced search engine optimization and engineering, are used by private individuals looking to manage their online identity as well as major corporations In 2014, retired Army Lt. Gen. Patrick O'Reilly reportedly used a reputation management firm called OptimizeUp to obscure news about a negative Inspector General's report that concluded he bullied and harassed his senior staff.

In testimony before a panel of the House Appropriations Committee Wednesday, Green said self-identified victims of photo-sharing would have access to all the resources offered by the Marine Corps to sexual assault survivors, including a military attorney under the victims legal counsel program. Asked whether he was concerned about the possibility the photos could be used to blackmail female service members, he said, "We absolutely are." Additional guidance, to be published in the near future, will list all the resources the Marine Corps is offering to self-identified victims of Marines United, as well as how to report illicit social media behavior to the military, the official said.

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[yiostheoy]

The guilty perp's changed the website to 2.0 but it is still hard to find.

All I could find were babes posing in their bikini's and underwear.

 

[yiostheoy]

Paula Broadbent, Petraeus' whore, was talking about it on one of the cable shows.

A whore charges money.

A slut does it for free.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Some of the women didnt know they were being filmed

 

[whitehall]

Suppose "Reveal News" uncovers a "huge scandal in the Marines" and nobody cares? Is it still a huge scandal?

 

[Borillar]

Women shouldn't be in the military...Period.

Why?

Sweetie I'll give you one reason: A woman cannot chuck a man on her back and fireman-carry him 200 yards at full speed.

That's what I'm thinking right now.

Not everyone in the military is serving a combat role with those kind of physical demands. No reason women can't be doing administrative, technical, medical, aviation, and scores of other roles.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The guilty perp's changed the website to 2.0 but it is still hard to find.

All I could find were babes posing in their bikini's and underwear.

My Google-Fu is better than yours.

 

[waltky]

Military academies sexual assault rates on the rise...

Sex assault reports up at Navy, Army academies
March 15, 2017 | WASHINGTON (AP) — Reports of sexual assaults increased at two of the three military academies last year and an anonymous survey suggests sexual misconduct rose across the board at the schools, The Associated Press has learned.

The new data underscore the challenge in stemming bad behavior by young people at the military college campuses, despite a slew of programs designed to prevent assaults, help victims and encourage them to come forward. The difficulties in some ways mirror those the larger military is struggling with amid revelations about Marines and other service members sharing nude photos on websites. Assault reports rose at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, and the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York, while dropping at the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado. The Air Force decline was sharp, going to 32 last year from 49 in 2015, contributing to an overall decrease in the overall number of reported assaults at the academies. The total reported cases fell to 86 from 91 in 2015, according to details obtained by The Associated Press.

Pentagon and military officials believe more people are reporting sexual assaults, which they see as a positive trend because it suggests students have more confidence in the system and greater willingness to seek help. But the anonymous survey results suggest more assaults and crime occurring. They showed more than 12 percent of women and nearly 2 percent of men saying they experienced unwanted sexual contact. In that survey, the largest increases in sexual misconduct were also at the Navy and Army academies. A vast majority of students said they didn't file a report on the assault because they didn't consider it serious enough. Many women said they took steps to avoid the perpetrator, while more than a third of the men said they confronted the person.

Senior defense officials expressed disappointment. They were particularly concerned that more men and women said they experienced unwanted sexual contact. The rate two years ago was about 8 percent of women and 1 percent of men. "This is almost a new population of folks every four years and that makes it a little bit more difficult for the messages to build up and gather momentum," said Nate Galbreath, deputy director of the Pentagon's sexual assault prevention office. Officials struggled to identify a reason. They said some blame may fall on student leaders and how much they are willing to emphasize and enforce sexual assault prevention programs among peers. "Unless the students have a bit of accountability on their own, unless they take the charge themselves, (senior) leadership can really only take them so far," said Elizabeth Van Winkle, who is currently the assistant defense secretary for readiness. "If the students aren't taking the charge themselves, you won't make as much headway in this population."

More APNewsBreak: Sex assault reports up at Navy, Army academies

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Marine Commandant Is Asked If Nude Photo Scandal Stems From Male Resentment at Females in the Ranks
March 15, 2017 - In December 2015, then-Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced that all combat roles in all military branches would be open to women who could meet the standards. "No exceptions," he said.

But the U.S. Marine Corps resisted, pointing to a study that said adding women to all-male units would undermine unit cohesion and combat effectiveness. Secretary Carter brushed aside those concerns, saying he was confident that the addition of women "can be implemented in a way that will enhance combat effectiveness, not detract from combat effectiveness." This week, at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.C.) asked Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Robert Neller if the Marines' nude photo-sharing scandal may be "an outgrowth” of male resentment at the integration of women into the service branch dubbed the “few, the proud and the brave.”

General, you and the sergeant major have both made it very clear that you have been disgusted with this (nude photo sharing) activity. I believe you when you say that you want this ended. At the same time, I’m just wondering when you first heard about this and you’re working your way through it, did it come to mind that this may very well be an outgrowth of the discrimination that we've seen in terms of men who may very well have thought that we just simply don't think this is the place for women in the military?"

Neller responded:

Senator, we talked about that, and I'm sure there are going to be people that have that particular view. But ok, but I don't see how that gets you from that particular view to where you have to take a picture of somebody, post it online, and then mock, haze, harass, degrade or even potentially assault them online. I mean, that's -- you know, whether that's their motivation or not, I don't know. Whether, it's -- you know, I've heard it descried as dark humor of veterans. That's a cop out. But we also know that there are marines that are participating in this who have never been shot at in their lives. So they are just trying to get credibility. I don't know. It doesn't matter what their motivation is, to me. It's behavior. And whatever made them think they were going to do this or watch it and not report it, that's what we've got to get after.

Sen. Rounds asked Neller, “The reality is, we can't go to war without women any more, can we?” “No, Senator, we can't,” Neller responded. Rounds noted that some 500 hundred individuals ave participated in the nude photo sharing and lewd commenting, which continues to this day. When the first “Marines United” private Facebook site was taken offline, another one popped up to replace it. The Naval Criminal Investigative Service is looking into possible violations of law.

Marine Commandant Is Asked If Nude Photo Scandal Stems From Male Resentment at Females in the Ranks

 

[waltky]

'How Much More' Do Females Need to Do to Be Accepted?...

Marine Commandant Asks Men in the Corps: 'How Much More' Do Females Need to Do to Be Accepted?
March 14, 2017 | Marine Corps Commandant General Robert Neller, testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday, vowed to remove the "stain" placed on his unit by active-duty Marines, veterans and civilian personnel who shared nude images of female service members – and posted derogatory or obscene comments -- on web pages and in Facebook groups such as Marines United.

Neller, in his opening statement, said he wanted to address both female and male Marines directly: "I know I'm asking a lot of you right now," he told female Marines, past and present: But I ask you to trust the leadership of the Marine Corps to take action and correct this problem. I ask you to trust me personally as your commandant, and when I say I'm outraged that many of you haven't been given the same respect when you earned the title Marine. I know you aren't asking to be labeled as victims. For anyone's pity, I know you would find that as insulting as the recent behavior and comments on social media. I know what you do for our Corps -- for our team -- and what you've contributed, to include the past 16 years of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan. I know when you earn the Eagle, Globe and Anchor, you wear it as proudly as the Marines you are.

Neller continued with a message to the men currently serving in the Marine Corps and to those who no longer wear the uniform: You're still Marines. I need you to ask yourselves, how much more do the females of our Corps have to do to be accepted? Was it enough when Major Megan McClung was killed by an IED in Ramadi? Or when Captain Jennifer Harris was killed when her helicopter was shot down while she was flying blood from Baghdad to Fallujah surgical? (He named three other female Marines killed at enemy hands.) What is it going to take, for you to accept these Marines as Marines? Neller said he's committed to making things right, and he asked all Marines to come forward to "get rid of this perversion to our culture." Anyone found taking part in the nude photo sharing scandal is liable to be subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, he said.

'Lame answer'

A furious Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), who has made sexual assault in the military one of her priority issues, erupted at Neller, telling him that his call for things to be different "rings hollow." "Who has been held accountable?" she demanded. "Have you actually investigated and found guilty anybody? If we can't crack Facebook, how are we supposed to be able to confront Russian aggression and cyber hacking throughout our military?" Her voice shaking, Gillibrand said it's a "serious problem when we have members of our military denigrating female Marines who will give their lives to this country in the way they have, with a non-response from leadership." She called Neller's testimony unsatisfactory: "And I would like to know what you intend to do to the commanders who are responsible for good order and discipline!"

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‘Manterruption’ – A Form of ‘Violence Against Women,’ Now Tracked by Your Smartphone
March 13, 2017 -- A new app, Woman Interrupted, listens to conversations and tracks how often men interrupt – “manterrupt” – women, a behavior that app developer BETC São Paulo refers to as “one of the types of violence against women” and “a sexist behavior.”

“At first glance, it may seem a small problem,” BETC São Paulo Co-CEO Gal Barradas said, “but reflects deeper issues of gender inequality at work and in society. The application is a way to show that, in fact, the disruption is real and alarming.” “We want men to ask, am I doing it without realizing it?” continued Barradas. “After all, what good is having more women in a meeting room if no one listens to what they have to say?”

The app analyses users’ conversations, identifying male and female speakers and noting when a female user is “manterrupted,” and when a male user “manterrupts” a female. BETC São Paulo claims that “no conversations are recorded or stored: everything goes from voice to data, automatically.” Still an early version, the application will eventually “present an overview of the data collected around the world” to determine in which locales women endure the most “manterruptions” and at what times “manterruption” most often occurs.

App user Henry Hobson reviewed the product, calling it “an excellent way” for women to track the “numerous times” men interrupt them. “I am a man,” Hobson wrote, “but believe the feminists in the world like myself need to stand up and help them. That is why I went to the women’s march in Washington DC…to protest for women’s rights around the world.” “One day,” Hobson concluded, “I hope to be a woman.”

‘Manterruption’ – A Form of ‘Violence Against Women,’ Now Tracked by Your Smartphone

 

[waltky]

Good way to get kicked outta the service...

Navy to Separate Sailors Who Share Nude Photos Without Permission
16 May 2017 | Following the Marine Corps' lead, the Navy on Tuesday announced a new policy requiring sailors found guilty of sharing "intimate images" without consent to be processed for separation from the service.

The policy is an update to a regulation created by the Navy last month that formally made nonconsensual nude photo-sharing a prosecutable violation. That regulation also prohibited sharing of intimate photos with intent to intimidate, humiliate or harass the subject. The new rules come in the wake of a scandal involving a Facebook page, Marines United, in which dozens of active-duty service members, primarily Marines, were found to have circulated a drive containing nude and compromising photos of female troops. "There is no room in our Navy for this toxic behavior," Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Adm. Robert Burke said in a statement released Tuesday. "This new policy shows that we are committed to eradicating this behavior from our force."

Sailors man the rails of a guided missile cruiser as it returns to Norfolk Naval Base in Norfolk, Va.​

According to a Navy-wide administrative message, the Navy Military Personnel Manual has been updated to require enlisted personnel who violate the new rule to be processed for administrative separation. Officers found to be in violation must also be reported by their command for administrative separation proceedings. While mandatory processing does not mean that all sailors who engaged in nonconsensual photo-sharing will be kicked out of the Navy, it does mean that they must be evaluated by senior authorities to determine if their actions warrant separation. Similar requirements are already tied to other "zero-tolerance" offenses, including sexual misconduct and assault; violent conduct causing death or bodily injury; and supremacist or extremist conduct, among others.

The Marine Corps moved May 10 to make non-consensual photo-sharing an offense warranting separation, updating its Separation and Retirement Manual to that effect. Military.com was first to report in March that the two services were considering this step after the Marines United scandal resulted in a flurry of congressional hearings and investigations into the extent of the abusive behavior. Investigations into the specifics of the scandal continue as officials with the Marine Corps and Naval Criminal Investigative Service determine how many troops are guilty of sharing the drive. The Marine Corps has also activated a task force to determine the extent of the misogynistic online behavior and eradicate its roots in the service.

Navy to Separate Sailors Who Share Nude Photos Without Permission | Military.com