HP Printer Ink B.S.

[Dekster]

It is where the big money is. A few years back I was buying someone a laser printer. I noticed xerox was a lot cheaper and started to buy it but when I went to get the toner I realized it was almost as much as the damn printer and about twice what other brands were, so I went with a brother printer. Theirs is cheaper on toner and there are a lot of generic manufacturers that can cut another $20+ off the high yield cartridges.

As for the op, I am wondering if you can uninstall the updates, reinstall the driver from disc and escape their paywall at least until you use up the generics you bought.

Won't use any Brother products have had nothing but problems with them and they don't always play well with Linux. Just last year I tried a new Brother printer again, took it back, wouldn't work with Linux no matter what I did. Replaced it with a Canon, same issue so I went back to HP, worked as soon as I hooked it up.

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

 

[Ringel05]

It is where the big money is. A few years back I was buying someone a laser printer. I noticed xerox was a lot cheaper and started to buy it but when I went to get the toner I realized it was almost as much as the damn printer and about twice what other brands were, so I went with a brother printer. Theirs is cheaper on toner and there are a lot of generic manufacturers that can cut another $20+ off the high yield cartridges.

As for the op, I am wondering if you can uninstall the updates, reinstall the driver from disc and escape their paywall at least until you use up the generics you bought.

Won't use any Brother products have had nothing but problems with them and they don't always play well with Linux. Just last year I tried a new Brother printer again, took it back, wouldn't work with Linux no matter what I did. Replaced it with a Canon, same issue so I went back to HP, worked as soon as I hooked it up.

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

 

[Pogo]

Which is why when I’m in the market for a printer I check the prices of replacement carts before deciding which to buy. Unreal how expensive some of them are.

That's fine, on the day of sale. But what the OP said was that HP "upgraded" (read: virused) his software to reject anything without the HP imprimatur.

Who do they think they are ---- Panasonic?

My reading comprehension’s fine.

Simply pointed out how I now buy printers in order to not fall into another expensive cart trap.

I understand that, I do too, it's just sensible.

But you can't predict when the manufacturer is going to sabotage you in the future, can you.

 

[Pogo]

It is where the big money is. A few years back I was buying someone a laser printer. I noticed xerox was a lot cheaper and started to buy it but when I went to get the toner I realized it was almost as much as the damn printer and about twice what other brands were, so I went with a brother printer. Theirs is cheaper on toner and there are a lot of generic manufacturers that can cut another $20+ off the high yield cartridges.

As for the op, I am wondering if you can uninstall the updates, reinstall the driver from disc and escape their paywall at least until you use up the generics you bought.

Won't use any Brother products have had nothing but problems with them and they don't always play well with Linux. Just last year I tried a new Brother printer again, took it back, wouldn't work with Linux no matter what I did. Replaced it with a Canon, same issue so I went back to HP, worked as soon as I hooked it up.

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

My impression of Brother is quite different although not from direct ownership; my attorney friend has used one for years and it's been flawless, and their products before that seemed to be above average.

For me it was Epson where I got burned. Nice printer when it worked but when it stopped working nothing seemed to fix it.

I was never a fan of HP (agree with Dekster two posts above) but I have to admit it's been reliable taking the place of the Epson.

 

[Pogo]

I will never purchase anything but an Epson.

Love their latest-

EcoTank Supertank Refillable Ink Printers | Epson US
WorkForce ET-4750 EcoTank All-in-One Supertank Printer | Inkjet | Printers | For Work | Epson US
EcoTank 502 Ink Bottles
Exclusive auto-stop ink bottles.
Epson’s EcoTank replacement ink bottles offer thousands of vivid pages1, while delivering genuine Epson quality. When it comes time to buy more ink, you save up to 80 percent on low-cost replacement ink bottles2. Plus, these ink bottles feature exclusive autostop technology, with each color uniquely keyed for easy filling of each tank. Ideal for everyday printing, these ultra high-capacity inks mean you can go longer before replacing them for an unbeatable combination of value3 and convenience.

Features/Benefits:

• Amazing value — get thousands of vivid pages1; save up to 80 percent on ink with low-cost replacement bottles2
• Exclusive auto-stop ink bottles — uniquely keyed for easy filling of each color
• Unbeatable convenience — with ultra high-capacity ink bottles, go longer between replacements
• Genuine Epson® Ink — reliable performance, great quality and brilliant results for everyday printing

They are a little more expensive to begin with, but last forever, with great customer support. My current one I got for $99, wide format, takes extra capacity cartridges that last for ever, and does everything. Even faxes.

My next one will be a super tank, like above, with refillable bottles of ink.

I’ve tried hp, brother, dell, and canon and none can compete.

Canon won't honour their warranties.

 

[dblack]

I have an HP Office Jet printer that has been absolutely great. It was inexpensive, but it will copy, fax, print from any device in my house...it's great.

I bought HP ink for the first replacement set, and it was fine, but a bit expensive. So I looked around and found an aftermarket ink company, tried theirs and it has been better than fine. When I first installed it I got a message that admonished me for not using HP ink, but no problems with it. i actually bought a couple sets of replacement cartridges at one time.

So a couple days ago my ink was dry and I installed another set of replacement cartridges. They are identical to the ones I pulled out. But the printer told me it was installed improperly. Bullshit. I re-installed them. No difference. So I got in touch with the company that sold me the ink and they gave me a couple things to try. Shut it off, pull the plug, and so on.

No change.

So I got Tech Support and the guy tells me that the latest HP product update put this "preventer" in the software, so that you can only use HP ink. I broke down and bought a set of HP ink, and of course it works fine.

I believe they are not "allowed" to do this. It is a tying arrangement that is prohibited by one of the anti-trust laws (I forget which one).

i am sad.

Yeah. Printers have been a racket for twenty years. About the time I stopped buying them.

 

[toobfreak]

I have an HP Office Jet printer that has been absolutely great. It was inexpensive, but it will copy, fax, print from any device in my house...it's great.

I bought HP ink for the first replacement set, and it was fine, but a bit expensive. So I looked around and found an aftermarket ink company, tried theirs and it has been better than fine. When I first installed it I got a message that admonished me for not using HP ink, but no problems with it. i actually bought a couple sets of replacement cartridges at one time.

So a couple days ago my ink was dry and I installed another set of replacement cartridges. They are identical to the ones I pulled out. But the printer told me it was installed improperly. Bullshit. I re-installed them. No difference. So I got in touch with the company that sold me the ink and they gave me a couple things to try. Shut it off, pull the plug, and so on.

No change.

So I got Tech Support and the guy tells me that the latest HP product update put this "preventer" in the software, so that you can only use HP ink. I broke down and bought a set of HP ink, and of course it works fine.

I believe they are not "allowed" to do this. It is a tying arrangement that is prohibited by one of the anti-trust laws (I forget which one).

i am sad.

Ink jets suck. Buy an old used HP laser jet. Got years out of it with the existing cartridge, put a brand new off brand replacement in it for $20, should last me till the year 2040.

 

[depotoo]

I still have a working Epson stylus photo 1270 from 2001, along with my wf7710. The 1270 has an even wider format than my 7710

Won't use any Brother products have had nothing but problems with them and they don't always play well with Linux. Just last year I tried a new Brother printer again, took it back, wouldn't work with Linux no matter what I did. Replaced it with a Canon, same issue so I went back to HP, worked as soon as I hooked it up.

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

My impression of Brother is quite different although not from direct ownership; my attorney friend has used one for years and it's been flawless, and their products before that seemed to be above average.

For me it was Epson where I got burned. Nice printer when it worked but when it stopped working nothing seemed to fix it.

I was never a fan of HP (agree with Dekster two posts above) but I have to admit it's been reliable taking the place of the Epson.

 

[Ringel05]

Won't use any Brother products have had nothing but problems with them and they don't always play well with Linux. Just last year I tried a new Brother printer again, took it back, wouldn't work with Linux no matter what I did. Replaced it with a Canon, same issue so I went back to HP, worked as soon as I hooked it up.

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

My impression of Brother is quite different although not from direct ownership; my attorney friend has used one for years and it's been flawless, and their products before that seemed to be above average.

For me it was Epson where I got burned. Nice printer when it worked but when it stopped working nothing seemed to fix it.

I was never a fan of HP (agree with Dekster two posts above) but I have to admit it's been reliable taking the place of the Epson.

Epson was junk also, don't know about nowadays though.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

This is our printer, works fantastic...in fact we have 2. We average just over 100,000 prints a month (each)

 

[depotoo]

I know nothing of Linux. I did lose use of an older brother product for awhile when I switched computers to a new version of windows....I think it was when 8 came out and there was no driver for the longest time. Otherwise I have never had a problem with them and they seem to last a fair amount of time. That one that wouldn't switch was one we had had in the family for about 10 years and it was still going along on the original drum.

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

My impression of Brother is quite different although not from direct ownership; my attorney friend has used one for years and it's been flawless, and their products before that seemed to be above average.

For me it was Epson where I got burned. Nice printer when it worked but when it stopped working nothing seemed to fix it.

I was never a fan of HP (agree with Dekster two posts above) but I have to admit it's been reliable taking the place of the Epson.

Epson was junk also, don't know about nowadays though.

Each of us has our own experience, needs, and preferences, I guess. I’ve always been into photo printing, which epson has been best for that, for me.

 

[Ringel05]

You've been lucky, Brother printers used to be infamous for being cheap, junk printers that didn't last.

I sort of have the same impression of any HP product. It is why I won't buy any of their computers.

It wasn't an impression on my part, Brother printers were cheap and typically didn't last which is why they got a bad rep. But that was quite a ways back so other than the connection issues with Linux I have no idea what their current quality is so I probably should not have claimed "you got lucky".

My impression of Brother is quite different although not from direct ownership; my attorney friend has used one for years and it's been flawless, and their products before that seemed to be above average.

For me it was Epson where I got burned. Nice printer when it worked but when it stopped working nothing seemed to fix it.

I was never a fan of HP (agree with Dekster two posts above) but I have to admit it's been reliable taking the place of the Epson.

Epson was junk also, don't know about nowadays though.

Each of us has our own experience, needs, and preferences, I guess. I’ve always been into photo printing, which epson has been best for that, for me.

My printing tends to be mostly document related so yeah, experiences, needs and preferences are different for each of us. That's why I don't tell people what the SHOULD buy or use even though I make fun of certain products sometimes in jest, sometimes not.
If someone is a Linux user I always tell them not to buy the latest and greatest printers because (HP not included) not all of them play well with Linux. This is the same with some (very limited) PC manufacturers just as tying to Hackentosh PCs, it only works with specific brands and specific configurations.

 

[Likkmee]

I have an HP Office Jet printer that has been absolutely great. It was inexpensive, but it will copy, fax, print from any device in my house...it's great.

I bought HP ink for the first replacement set, and it was fine, but a bit expensive. So I looked around and found an aftermarket ink company, tried theirs and it has been better than fine. When I first installed it I got a message that admonished me for not using HP ink, but no problems with it. i actually bought a couple sets of replacement cartridges at one time.

So a couple days ago my ink was dry and I installed another set of replacement cartridges. They are identical to the ones I pulled out. But the printer told me it was installed improperly. Bullshit. I re-installed them. No difference. So I got in touch with the company that sold me the ink and they gave me a couple things to try. Shut it off, pull the plug, and so on.

No change.

So I got Tech Support and the guy tells me that the latest HP product update put this "preventer" in the software, so that you can only use HP ink. I broke down and bought a set of HP ink, and of course it works fine.

I believe they are not "allowed" to do this. It is a tying arrangement that is prohibited by one of the anti-trust laws (I forget which one).

i am sad.

Bastards

Sorry. Linux only. NO BS, no warnings about ink type

 

[Likkmee]

Synaptic hplip-gui

 

[Coyote]

I have an HP Office Jet printer that has been absolutely great. It was inexpensive, but it will copy, fax, print from any device in my house...it's great.

I bought HP ink for the first replacement set, and it was fine, but a bit expensive. So I looked around and found an aftermarket ink company, tried theirs and it has been better than fine. When I first installed it I got a message that admonished me for not using HP ink, but no problems with it. i actually bought a couple sets of replacement cartridges at one time.

So a couple days ago my ink was dry and I installed another set of replacement cartridges. They are identical to the ones I pulled out. But the printer told me it was installed improperly. Bullshit. I re-installed them. No difference. So I got in touch with the company that sold me the ink and they gave me a couple things to try. Shut it off, pull the plug, and so on.

No change.

So I got Tech Support and the guy tells me that the latest HP product update put this "preventer" in the software, so that you can only use HP ink. I broke down and bought a set of HP ink, and of course it works fine.

I believe they are not "allowed" to do this. It is a tying arrangement that is prohibited by one of the anti-trust laws (I forget which one).

i am sad.

I had the same problem with an HP printer. I replaced the cartridges but it tells me one color is empty. I got a new cartridge and it told me a different color is empty. It will not print, even if it is black ink only. Damn thing sits there with $130.00 worth of new ink that won't print.

I had the same problems! I couldn't figure out what was wrong. Pissed me off

 

[harmonica]

.....my HP printer has been having godamn problems--I just got the cartridges and it didn't work ........I cleaned them ...nothing.....finally I took out the black cartridge [ sorry ] and it worked