CDZ How would you implement arming school staff to keep mass shooters from attacking?

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    Nope......criminals in France easily get fully automatic military weapons....they are a status symbol there......

    Yes.....only mass shooters should be able to carry guns in our schools....good plan.
     
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    France has an enviable murder and gun crime rate compared to ours.
     
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    And that has nothing to do with their gun control laws......their murder rate their gun murder rate was lower than ours before their gun control extremism....and again, their gun control did not stop muslim terrorists, on government terrorist watch lists from getting actual, fully automatic military rifles with 30 round magazines, pistols and grenades so they could murder 135 people at a cartoon office and rock concert.......not to mention all the other attacks in France with automatic rifles....and not to mention all the criminals who easily get fully automatic rifles there...
     
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    Don't know why the NBC host was flabbergasted the building he works in is protected by dozens of armed guards 24/7 and car barricades surround his building to protect from suicide car bombers...
    Why do we protect everyone but school age children?
     
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    Spout off the list, but their murder rate, gun crime rate, and scarcity of guns are still enviable
     
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    this is our method out here

    School Sentinel Training Program
    Law Enforcement Training provides training for all approved school sentinels. The training course for the school sentinel program consists of at least 80 hours of training in the following subject areas.

    1. Firearms proficiency
    2. Use of force
    3. Legal aspects
    4. Weapons retention
    5. Identifying protocol for identifying sentinel
    6. First aid
    The school board may submit a person for school sentinel training only if the person meets the following requirements:

    1. Is a citizen of the United States;
    2. Is at least 21 years of age at time of appointment;
    3. Has fingerprints taken by a qualified law enforcement officer;
    4. Is of good moral character;
    5. Is a graduate of an accredited high school or has a high school equivalency certificate acceptable to the commission;
    6. Is examined by a licensed physician who certifies, on forms prescribed by the commission, that the applicant is able to perform the duties of a school sentinel;
    7. Is interviewed in person by the school board or its designee and approved by the school board to apply to the school sentinel basic training course;
    8. Has received written approval to apply to the school sentinel basic training course by all local law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction over the school premises in which the individual will act as a school sentinel;
    9. Has not unlawfully used any prescribed drug, controlled substance, or marijuana within one year before the time of application for training; and
    10. Has a valid concealed weapons permit.
    South Dakota Attorney General
     
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    Their gun control doesn't work either...

    Hundreds of guns, grenades, ammo seized from French sports shop owner

    Hundreds of assault rifles, shotguns, and pistols, along with hand grenades and 100 kilos of ammunition, have been confiscated from a sports shop owner in the northern French port town of Boulogne-sur-Mer.

    In total, 488 guns, 13 grenades, 1,309 weapons parts, and more than 100 kilos of cartridges and ammunition were seized, customs officials said in a statement.

    'An Everest of Murderous Frenzy': Marseille Drug Gangs Are Using GPS to Kill Their Rivals | VICE News

    Delseny gave the example of a double homicide on November 9, in which two people riding in a BMW were gunned down as their car exited a tunnel near the Vieux-Port harbor. According to Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin, the killing was part of a turf war between rival drug gangs.

    Several companies in France sell these GPS tracking devices, which are more of less accurate and discreet, depending on the model. Basic models retail for around 200 to 500 euros ($230 to $570), and can be purchased online. Many of the trackers are waterproof and can be easily affixed to a vehicle since they are magnetized.



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    Around 10pm on Saturday, two or three men armed with automatic weapons showed up outside a grocery store in the Bassens projects, in the north of the city. Three individuals aged 20 to 30 who had gathered at the store to watch a live broadcast of the Barcelona versus Real Madrid soccer game were killed in the shooting. One of the victims was not involved in drugs trafficking, and appears to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    French gunman's arsenal spotlights illegal arms trade


    As France asks itself whether it could have done more to prevent Islamist gunman Mohamed Merah shooting dead seven people in a killing spree that shook the nation, there is one question that refuses to go away: how did he obtain so many guns.

    The size and nature of the arsenal amassed by Merah - who stockpiled at least eight guns including a Kalashnikov assault rifle and an Uzi machine pistol - has focused attention on the easy availability of illegal weapons in France and their growing use in ultra-violent crimes.

    As an angry online reader of the daily Le Figaro newspaper put it: "How was he able to buy all these guns, like one buys yoghurts, when he was under the surveillance of the DCRI (the French intelligence agency)?"


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    Paris attacks highlight France's gun control problems

    But in recent years a black market has proliferated. The number of illegal weapons has risen at a rapid rate – double-digit percentages – for several years, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a body created in 2003.

    “In Marseille and the surrounding area almost all the score settling is carried out using weapons used in wars,” a police spokesman told Reuters after the Toulouse attacks, adding that Kalashnikovs were the weapon of choice: “If you don’t have a ‘Kalash’ you’re a bit of a loser.”

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    Paris attacks highlight France's gun control problems

    The arsenal of weapons deployed by the eight attackers who terrorised Paris on Friday night underlined France’s gun control problems and raised the spectre of further attacks.

    The country has extremely strict weapons laws, but Europe’s open borders and growing trade in illegal weapons means assault rifles are relatively easy to come by on the black market.



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    France’s real gun problem

    Despite these strict laws, France seems to be awash with guns.

    The guns used in high-profile terror attacks are really just the tip of the iceberg. In 2012, French authorities estimated that there were around 30,000 guns illegally in the country, many likely used by gangs for criminal activities. Of those guns, around 4,000 were likely to be "war weapons," Le Figaro reported, referring to items such as the Kalashnikov AK-variant rifles and Uzis. Statistics from the National Observatory for Delinquency, a government body created in 2003, suggest that the number of guns in France has grown by double digits every year.
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    How Europe's Terrorists Get Their Guns

    France became particularly worried about the trafficking of illegal guns in 2012, increasing fines and jail terms for those involved in the trafficking and possession of them. Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said in Septemberthat police have seized nearly 6,000 weapons from criminal groups each year since 2013, 1,200 of which were military assault weapons. And in the three weeks following the Nov. 13 attacks, Cazeneuve said French police seized 334 weapons, 34 of them military-grade.

    Several officials and experts tell TIME they’ve seen a noticeable climb in both the numbers and the types of illicit weapons crossing borders over the past few years. Rather than pistols and small guns, there has been a spike in demand for military-grade assault weapons. This reflects a very different kind of criminality: petty criminals and drug dealers tend to want small pistols that they can conceal; terrorists want AK-47s that can do maximum damage.

    “For something like the Paris attacks, you don’t need hundreds of thousands of weapons. You just need enough to create havoc,” says Zverzhanovski. “The gun market operates on a very basic supply and demand system. Since about 2011, there has definitely been a significant increase of illicit weapons going from southeast Europe towards different parts of the E.U.” Crucially, it’s not truckloads or planeloads of weapons coming in. It’s much more a case of “micro-trafficking”—a few pieces being brought in by individuals—making it much more difficult to track.

     
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    And has nothing to do with their gun control laws.....
     
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    Good for them, confiscating illegal weapons and keeping them off the streets
     
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    Thanks, another state...
     

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