How Will Sen. McCain Make You Wealthy?

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    By lowering taxes for big corporations? How will that make you rich?

    By lowering taxes for the wealthy 1%? How will that make you rich?

    Someone please explain to me McCain's plans to make us all wealthy.

    And someone show me how Sen. Obama's plans will keep us from acquiring wealth. It seems to me that providing better opportunities for health care, education, and cutting taxes for most people and small businesses not only allows for more opportunities to gain wealth, but allows the middle classes a chance to avoid poverty. Doesn't that provided financial security and stability, in the end, allow for more spending, which will grow the economy, which will raise profits, which will expand businesses, which will increase hiring, which will allow more people the opportunity to gain wealth as well as making the wealthy richer, and so on and so forth ad infinitum?
     
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    He, nor any government politician will "make me wealthy"

    If/when I become truly wealthy, it will be because of my efforts, my labors, my investments, my choices

    All that any prez and government can do is take away from my wealth thru the taxation that is supposed to be used to run this country.... McCain won't make me wealthy and he will certainly take some of my earnings in taxes, but not as much as Obama will with his increased entitlements and wish for redistribution of wealth thru tax 'breaks' coming back to those who already don't pay taxes, his wish at healthcare funding of those who 'cannot afford it' at the expense of those of us who do earn more... Not to mention a lot of the other funny and phony math behind the Obama economic plan, being there poised to take even more from true earners
     
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    Who Pays Income Taxes? See Who Pays What

    Who doesn't pay income taxes? According to this website by the National Taxpayers Union, most people make less than $64k. Why shouldn't they, who work for the top 25% and who don't get paid much by the top 25%, receive help from the government that is supposed to represent them, the majority. The wealthiest elite in this country also benefit from many tax loopholes, and from what all those taxes pay for i.e. the Dept. of Interior, the Treasury, DOD, Dept. of Justice, etc. etc. Obama isn't giving any handouts, anymore than McCain is. Your argument is flawed and you've been fooled into thinking that somehow when Republicans tax you less you'll have more opportunities to get rich. How? Working for already wealthy people? They sure do like to pay a lot, don't they, those already wealthy people. They employ hundreds or even thousands of employees but only 10% of them make over $60k. No matter how hard you work, or how smart you are, only a few highly paid employees retire each year opening up only a few positions that pay well. Will you get rich starting a small business? Good luck starting and running a small business with trickle down economics, let alone having a business that is successful enough to make you wealthy. You're best bet for getting rich is winning the lotto. The chances of getting wealthy are mighty slim and wouldn't life be better used to do what makes you happy than what makes other people wealthier?
     
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    Funny.... already broken your mold..

    Sorry... I also do not support loopholes for anyone, just as I do not support entitlement handouts for anyone.... and Obama is certainly not going to get us ANY CLOSER to eliminating those things

    You play the lotto... I'll continue to advance, earn more, and grow my wealth as I have done my entire career
     
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    What are you talking about? He keeps saying in all of his speeches that he's going to create wealth for ALL Americans!
     
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    Even his own supporters know he is full of shit. Just like he said he would wipe out the national debt in 4 years, What a fricken joke, nobody will knock out the debt in 4 years and for him to lie to the public like he did shows he will say anything to get elected because some dumbasses out there actually believe him.
     
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    If a man's reach cannot exceed his grasp, then what's an Ayn Rand for?

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    But... but... Joe the Plumber said that McCain will make him wealthy!
     
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    Just because I am voting for him instead of Obama, does not mean I agree with everything he says or every premise he has
     
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    I don't play the lottery, I work. But, despite getting educated, I only make $30k because my field isn't high paying. I pay taxes. I work for already wealthy people because I can't afford to start my own business. Luckily I have the VA for my health care, because I served in the USMC, but what about those vets who live hundreds of miles away from the nearest VAMC? What about their dependents? What about those people who don't make enough to buy insurance, like me, and still pay for college loans, dental insurance, auto insurance, rent or mortgage, gas, rising heating bills? I don't have credit cards and its a challenge to save. I don't have a 401k because I can't afford it. 50% of the population of this nation make less than I do and why do you think that is? Because they're lazy?

    But I'm not so scared to take risks. And McCain is safely Bush and the same old Republican policies. I'll take a risk with Obama, even though I'm not a Democrat. And how have you broken my mold, so to speak? How is McCain going to close tax loopholes for the rich? And please tell me what these handouts are. Welfare? How about no bid contracts to Halliburton. How about $700 billion in corporate welfare. How about oil and gas subsidies. Who gets the handouts? 1% of the population: disenfranchised people and single mothers on welfare. Yeah, I don't want them to sit on their asses and not work, but there will always be lazy people. Those aren't the only people receiving welfare. There are people who receive governmental aid who happen to have just fallen on hard times, are made poor by medical costs (because they got cancer or had a child with medical problems), or because their jobs were shipped over sees, or because they were laid off, or many many other reasons. A small percentage of them live on the tiny amount of money that welfare pays, and the rest quickly find other jobs, finish their education, or whatever they're doing and pursue their ambitions.

    And how wealthy are you now Dave?
     

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