Johnson How Upset Are Johnson Supporters?

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    What you think in conspiracy theory has to be shown to be true, Dale, and you are not doing that.
     
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    Ridiculous, if Johnson wants to bust a move, now is the time to do it. 2020 or 2024 is probably too late. The country is already unrecognizable to at least a third of the country, meaning a least a third of the people really have no interest in voting for either. The double edge sword of human nature is that we adapt, in this case we adapt to shitty situations and accept it as the norm. So in four years, 2020, most Americans will continue to become complacent, or even worse/probable become even more radical than what we were before. The libertarian party has proven itself to not be serious contendor with the nomination of Johnson, he is just as on par with trump at being terrible with getting the message across, and he is the Clinton dynasty of the libertarian party. Don't get me wrong, he is still way better than the two options we have set before us. But the libertarian party should have been getting serious two years ago. The libertarian party needs a better direction that is not all consumed by weed and conspiracy thearies. Start talking about the issues all Americans care about, and lay out
    A new path to take, and more importantly why to take it
     
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    Very promising poll numbers released this morning from Wall Street Journal/NBC/Marist, showing support for Gary Johnson and his Libertarian ticket growing in some battleground states.

    [​IMG]Gage Skidmore/Foter

    For example, in Virginia Johnson went from 10 percent support last month to 12 percent in this new August poll, which was conducted from August 4-10. When Johnson and the Green Party's Jill Stein are added to the presidential question, they shave three percentage points from Hillary Clinton (46 percent to 43) and two from Donald Trump (33 percent to 31).

    Johnson hits the magic 15 (which he must get nationally in at least five polls to get into the presidential debates), up from 13 percent last month. In that state, the addition of Johnson and Stein to the mix cuts five points off Clinton (46 percent to 41) and three off Trump (32 to 29).

    Both states show Clinton, obviously, far ahead of her Republican opponent, whose support in both states fell since July.

    Johnson is also up from July in Florida, going from 7 percent to 9. And in North Carolina as well, the same jump from 7 to 9. None of those state polls give the slightest bit of encouragement to Trump and the Republicans.
     
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    I find it hard to believe Stein is pulling votes from Johnson.

    What the third party candidates lack is exposure in the mainstream media. The only reason Sanders did as well as he did was because he ran on the democrat ticket, which meant exposure. He was little known prior to the exposure.
     
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    That is because if they don't run as one of the main parties' candidates, they have to get 15% in the polls in order to be a part of nationalized televised debates. Don't you think that's wrong? How are they supposed to attract voters when they are NOT allowed to be in the televised debates? This is a ploy by the two party system to keep them in power. I think and hope that most people can see that quite clearly by now.
     
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    Because you're an idiot. The Green Party and Libertarians have pretty much polar views.
     
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    Yes, I think it is wrong. The media has failed the American people on a grand scale.
     
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    You find it hard to believe...just because? And I'm not talking about votes. I'm talking polling percentage. Without her....he gets a higher percentage. Her supporters are more likely to go to him Han either Trump or Clinton.

    They are actually getting exposure. What they don't have is money.....or platforms that aren't crazy.
     
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    You speak with such arrogance. Stein is taking a small amount of anti establishment polling from Johnson. My point was that without Stein included in the polls...Johnson has a better chance to get the 15% needed to get on the stage. Try to understand what you are talking about.

    Someone as stupid as you ought to learn your place.
     
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    I suppose there could be truth to that. Though, you're probably overstating it at a minimum. Hard to see that many libertarians going green and visa versa.
     

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