How To Save Money On Health Care

[Political Junky]

No, Jesus didn't say the government should mandate who another person takes care of.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, that was insurance corporations should. So we welcomed it.

No my fault you want to misrepresent the teachings of Jesus then whine when proven wrong.

The point was rather that you insist you have an issue with a government mandating who another person takes care of, but you have no qualms if an insurance corporation does, that's all. And I'm assuming you have or have at some point had health insurance. Perhaps I'm incorrect in that assumption.

The premise of insurance is that the well pay for the sicker, or the good driver pays for the bad. Wake up.

The various schemes insurance companies use to maintain their bottom line shouldn't be confused with a social safety net. Insurance companies carefully control risk by limiting who is the allowed in the 'pool', and by what is covered when they are allowed in (ie no pre-existing conditions). We're trying to turn insurance companies into some kind of bizarre privatized welfare state - complete with the power to tax customers. All because the socialists won't admit they want socialism.

Medicare, The VA, the military .. all socialist.

 

[dblack]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, that was insurance corporations should. So we welcomed it.

No my fault you want to misrepresent the teachings of Jesus then whine when proven wrong.

The point was rather that you insist you have an issue with a government mandating who another person takes care of, but you have no qualms if an insurance corporation does, that's all. And I'm assuming you have or have at some point had health insurance. Perhaps I'm incorrect in that assumption.

The premise of insurance is that the well pay for the sicker, or the good driver pays for the bad. Wake up.

The various schemes insurance companies use to maintain their bottom line shouldn't be confused with a social safety net. Insurance companies carefully control risk by limiting who is the allowed in the 'pool', and by what is covered when they are allowed in (ie no pre-existing conditions). We're trying to turn insurance companies into some kind of bizarre privatized welfare state - complete with the power to tax customers. All because the socialists won't admit they want socialism.

Medicare, The VA, the military .. all socialist.

The military? Read a book.

I guess you're going to have to define socialism if we're going to go much further. If you think any government that fronts a military is socialist, you're clearly working with a different definition than I am.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

How do you do that? Just institute universal health care!

universal health care or universal autos or universal food is very very inefficient and thus very very expensive. This is why China switched to capitalism and instantly started getting rich!!

 

[Political Junky]

How do you do that? Just institute universal health care!

universal health care or universal autos or universal food is very very inefficient and thus very very expensive. This is why China switched to capitalism and instantly started getting rich!!

It's just the opposite with healthcare .. read something.

 

[debbiedowner]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, that was insurance corporations should. So we welcomed it.

No my fault you want to misrepresent the teachings of Jesus then whine when proven wrong.

The point was rather that you insist you have an issue with a government mandating who another person takes care of, but you have no qualms if an insurance corporation does, that's all. And I'm assuming you have or have at some point had health insurance. Perhaps I'm incorrect in that assumption.

The premise of insurance is that the well pay for the sicker, or the good driver pays for the bad. Wake up.

The various schemes insurance companies use to maintain their bottom line shouldn't be confused with a social safety net. Insurance companies carefully control risk by limiting who is the allowed in the 'pool', and by what is covered when they are allowed in (ie no pre-existing conditions). We're trying to turn insurance companies into some kind of bizarre privatized welfare state - complete with the power to tax customers. All because the socialists won't admit they want socialism.

Medicare, The VA, the military .. all socialist.

Add Tricare into the mix.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's just the opposite with healthcare .. read something.

so in health care if people shop with their own money that drives prices up???

so in health care if medical providers compete for customers on basis of price and quality that drives prices up too???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Medicare, The VA, the military .. all socialist.

and all maddeningly expensive thanks to soviet monopoly bureaucratic mismanagement. Do you understand?

now you can understand why China got rich when it switched to capitalism.

 

[Political Junky]

It's just the opposite with healthcare .. read something.

so in health care if people shop with their own money that drives prices up???

so in health care if medical providers compete for customers on basis of price and quality that drives prices up too???

Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, 2014 Update: How the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

It's just the opposite with healthcare .. read something.

so in health care if people shop with their own money that drives prices up???

so in health care if medical providers compete for customers on basis of price and quality that drives prices up too???

we are not talking about rank but about whether capitalism would work better as it does in all industries. Do you understand what we are talking about?

 

[Political Junky]

It's just the opposite with healthcare .. read something.

so in health care if people shop with their own money that drives prices up???

so in health care if medical providers compete for customers on basis of price and quality that drives prices up too???

we are not talking about rank but about whether capitalism would work better as it does in all industries. Do you understand what we are talking about?

Yes I do. Do you know that Americans pay more for healthcare than any country?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. Do you know that Americans pay more for healthcare than any country?

yes obviously but what on earth does that have to do with our subject?? Do you have any idea?????

 

[Political Junky]

Why Americans Pay More

Why US Pays More for Health Care Than Other Nations

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why Americans Pay More

Why US Pays More for Health Care Than Other Nations

yes obviously but why on earth are you pointing out that Americans pay more like a kindergartner who just learned 1+1=2

 

[Fenton Lum]

Medicare, The VA, the military .. all socialist.

and all maddeningly expensive thanks to soviet monopoly bureaucratic mismanagement. Do you understand?

now you can understand why China got rich when it switched to capitalism.

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Not going to happen here, there's something inherent in the american psyche that requires seeing others suffer and go without in order to feel successful as an individual. The wealthy must be worshiped, the poor must be demonized. We have no interest in a connected, healthy, educated, vibrant society.

Yes. The disease caused by having a multi-ethnic society is pretty horrific. But it can be beaten and cured.

Poor thing, looks like he's banned. Well, one less of that ethnicity.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

and so you want to fix it by switching to capitalism???

 

[Fenton Lum]

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

and so you want to fix it by switching to capitalism???

No one wants to fix it. Why would they?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

and so you want to fix it by switching to capitalism???

No one wants to fix it. Why would they?

to cuts cost by 80% and extend our lives by 10-20 years which is what would happen if we switched to capitalism. Do you understand?

 

[Fenton Lum]

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

and so you want to fix it by switching to capitalism???

No one wants to fix it. Why would they?

to cuts cost by 80% and extend our lives by 10-20 years which is what would happen if we switched to capitalism. Do you understand?

We have for profit capitalism, that's how we got there, thanks.

 

[debbiedowner]

What anyone who's really looked into this understands is that we have the most expensive and inefficient healthcare system in the advanced post industrial world. It’s easily available common knowledge, unless you simply don’t want to know.

and so you want to fix it by switching to capitalism???

No one wants to fix it. Why would they?

to cuts cost by 80% and extend our lives by 10-20 years which is what would happen if we switched to capitalism. Do you understand?

We have for profit capitalism, that's how we got there, thanks.

He doesn't understand that and from his posts either in healthcare or obamacare, never will.