“How to Debate a Liberal,” a systematic guide to trouncing a lefty opponent.

Debating righties is easy . Call Them out on their lies . They then resort to name calling .


Investing in education, science and infrastructure is undisputable but conservatives keep trying to argue the case that we don't need it. Makes them look really stupid!

What is "indisputable?" Your post doesn't say.

The theory that the populace wouldn't invest in education, science and infrastructure without government is lacking any visible means of support. Prior to FRD this country was the most educated, scientifically advanced, and developed of any country on Earth.
 
How do you debate a liberal who is determined to paint you as a racist, sexist, homophobe who still believes the Earth is flat?

For the answer, we look to KTTH host Ben Shapiro, fabled agitator of leftists everywhere. Shapiro has figured out a winning formula to defeat flawed leftist rhetoric.

"Leftist" rhetoric?

Your title says "Liberal". Then it suddenly switches to "lefty". Then your OP waddles aimlessly back and forth between both.

Which way you wanna point this thing?

Between your eyes, you non-liberal, leftist twaddler.

:banana:

That goes for the other 5 of you in this thread as well, of which Pogo is the smartest.
 
I gave up on debating and educating leftardz, decades ago. My tactic instead, is to use them and their ignorance as foils to enlighten others with. For example, when a leftard denies that an abortion kills a child... I use their denials to educate others who might be lurking around as to what the biological facts are - and that shows everyone else how far the libtard's head is up in their own ass.

Most libtardz make for great foils!
 
When I stopped being a Bush neocon,

Lol....this is the Republicans. They were for all the shot until their guy left then they found Jesup or some shit until the next republican tell's them what to believe in.


As usual, you are 100 percent wrong. I doubt that you will ever have an epiphany because you are so staid in your belief that the "demcrat party" that is made up of mostly Fabian socialists and commies are going to "look out" for you because you lack the nads to take responsibility for yourself. Your biggest drawback and biggest fault is that you lack education and knowledge of how this debt slavery system actually works....what is even sadder is that you don't even WANT to understand. The realization that you are up to your neck in shit isn't something that you want to even have to fathom....but you will learn soon enough...and the hard way. Please spare me a thought because I warned you.
 
Your ideas on economics isn't used anywhere else in the world.

I always make this point. They are for economic solutions that exist no where in history. Of course their reason is not because their ideas are space case it's because no one has ever been so awesome as to do their fantasy solutions.

Our economic ideas were thoroughly tested in this country prior to 1916. After that, your theories were tried. The result was the Great Depression and WW II.

World War 2 you say? Well that means it was one before that goof ball. Stop being stupid. Was your economic theories the creator of the first world war? Or let me guess, that's different and you made a stupid connection.

What conservative policies were those?

Funny, Both America under FDR and Hitler were so democrats that invested in their countries to be the most powerful countries on gods earth...Bripat is fucking stupid.


FDR sold us out to the international bankers with the Chapter 11 Bankruptcy of 1933 and made all the American people turn in their REAL money (gold) under penalty of jail time and a 5,000 dollar fine. They had to turn in their gold for "Federal Reserve Notes" which were nothing but debt notes and then pledged us as surety against the debt by putting up our labor as collateral. Do some research on HJR 192 and how Americans lost allodial right to property. There could have been no rise of Hitler and no Bolshevik Revolution without the international bankers and Wall Street, an institution that they own.
 
Debating righties is easy . Call Them out on their lies . They then resort to name calling .


Timmy, you have never been able to "debate" me....you always run away like a scolded child.

Here is another chance for you to "school" me in the ways of leftardism....knock yourself out.
 
That would be the definitive way to defeat a liberal if liberals were anything like the caricature that right wingers have convinced themselves that liberals are. Unfortunately for you, you are arguing against an opponent that doesn't exist in real life.
Your example doesn't support your claim.

What example? I stated a fact.
 
That would be the definitive way to defeat a liberal if liberals were anything like the caricature that right wingers have convinced themselves that liberals are. Unfortunately for you, you are arguing against an opponent that doesn't exist in real life.
Your example doesn't support your claim.

What example? I stated a fact.
That would be the definitive way to defeat a liberal if liberals were anything like the caricature that right wingers have convinced themselves that liberals are. Unfortunately for you, you are arguing against an opponent that doesn't exist in real life.
Your example doesn't support your claim.

What example? I stated a fact.


Bulldog, seriously, when it comes to debating or making a salient point? You are on the bottom tier........you suck at it and I mean you REALLY suck at making an argument. You have nothing and what you lack in quality, you attempt to make up in quantity.
 
How do you debate a liberal who is determined to paint you as a racist, sexist, homophobe who still believes the Earth is flat?

For the answer, we look to KTTH host Ben Shapiro, fabled agitator of leftists everywhere. Shapiro has figured out a winning formula to defeat flawed leftist rhetoric.

On Oct. 3, 2013, Shapiro gave a groundbreaking lecture at the University of California San Diego’s David Horowitz Freedom Center called “How to Debate a Liberal,” a systematic guide to trouncing a lefty opponent.

Want a free eBook of Shapiro’s “How to Debate a Liberal” lesson? Click here to sign up to be a member – it’s free! – at Shapiro’s Truth Revolt website.

Shapiro opened his lecture with a useful lesson from recent political history: that Republicans lost the 2012 presidential election not because of policy, but because Democrats were able to frame Mitt Romney as a “bad guy,” and Barack Obama as a “nice guy.”

It’s a common leftist “bully tactic,” Shapiro says, that you must outmaneuver in order to win the debate.

Here are Shapiro’s steps to winning an argument against a liberal.

EMBRACE THE FIRE

Politics is war, Shapiro says, crediting his late friend Andrew Brietbart. So, if you’re going to get into a debate with a liberal, be ready to punch them hard – but also be willing to sustain a few punches yourself.

“You have to be willing to take the first punch,” Shapiro said.

Of course, that’s a rhetorical punch. You can land a hard one with the next step.

FRAME YOUR OPPONENT

Discussing gun control with liberal CNN host Piers Morgan on live TV in January 2013, Shapiro scored a near knockout in the first few seconds of the debate by framing his opponent. He accused Morgan of standing on the graves of murdered children to further his anti-gun agenda.

The result? Shapiro appeared as the victor in the debate, and as a reasonable, levelheaded, and competent opponent. Turn your lefty opponent’s ludicrous tactics against them by framing them as the bad guy.

FRAME THE DEBATE

Just as important as step No. 2 is putting your opponent on the defensive by framing the debate in a way that they are unfamiliar with, Shapiro says.

If the debate is about global warming, do not debate on whether it is manmade. Rather, debate about what policies can solve it.

If you are debating gun rights, prepare yourself for the standard liberal argument, which is that we don’t need guns at all. Instead, ask them what we can do to curb gun violence, and violence as a whole.

“You have to frame the debate in ways they’re not familiar with,” Shapiro said. “Otherwise, it turns into a character argument. You’re a flat-Earther, you’re corrupt, you’re mean, you’re stupid – these are the lines of [liberal] attack.”

SPOT THEIR INCONSISTENCIES

Every single leftist argument is full of inconsistencies. They claim they want marriage equality, but at the same time they want to force churches to endorse an irreligious practice; they want universal government-sponsored health care, but they do not support forcing people to become doctors, which would be necessarily to support such a massive program.

The positive thing is this irrational logic is easy to spot. Do not be afraid to point out these wacky contradictions.

FORCE THEM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

Sure, liberals love to put conservatives on the defense by forcing them to answer questions, but do liberals have to answer?

Force them to answer questions. If they are pro-gay marriage, ask them which parent is less vital to a family: the mother or the father. Chances are, they’ll have to concede that a family is better with a mother and a father, not just one or the other. And, if they’re for the separation of church and state, ask them if they think government should be forced to perform same-sex marriages.

DON’T GET DISTRACTED

Liberals love George W. Bush. That is, they love to invoke his name to prove that Republicans and conservatives are incompetent. Ignore weak rhetorical tactics. Stay focused on the debate at hand, not left field references that leftists use to make you look weak.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO DEFEND ALL CONSERVATIVES

It’s not your job to defend every conservative. Conservatives are human and often do any say things you might not always disagree with. Just because you voted for someone and largely agree with their views doesn’t mean you have to defend them.

If your liberal opponent wants to bring up something Reagan did or said 30 years ago, tell them to build a time machine. If you stand around defending every conservative ever, you’re going to waste a bunch of time and energy.

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING, ADMIT IT

You are not an oracle, and you’re not Google. You don’t need to know everything.

If a liberal challenges you on a topic you’re unfamiliar with, politely decline to talk about it. You’re allowed.

“If you don’t know something, don’t discuss the topic,” Shapiro said. “Say, ‘I haven’t researched it sufficiently.’ If they insist, tell them that they’re being unfair.

“Ego will kill you in these kinds of debates.”

LET THEM HAVE MEANINGLESS VICTORIES

Do you stand for diversity? Of course, why not?

Are you in favor of immigration reform? You betcha.

Conceding certain points to a liberal will accomplish several things. First, it puts them off guard. When they ask you if you support immigration reform, they’re expecting you to say “no,” which would allow them to accuse you of being a racist. The thing is the term “immigration reform” is essentially meaningless, which allows you to agree with it without conceding your position.

Second, it will make the liberal think you are more of a moderate, which has the effect of softening their rhetorical attack.

CONCLUSION

Above all, remember that leftists are not there to debate you; they are there to use you to prove that conservatism is a radical ideology that professes racist, sexist ideals. It isn’t true, of course, but you can’t win an argument with someone who hates you for your beliefs.

Instead, debate liberals on substance and policy, Shapiro says.

“The left has only one play,” Shapiro says. “The play is ‘you’re nasty.’”

I get a lot of nonsense debate tactics. This isn't about finding the truth, it's about winning, or at least of failure is coming right at you, to divert away so quickly that you can save face.

It's bullshit, because you want to avoid reality.

I can debate all day about the 2A and no one will provide any evidence to back themselves up, but continually tell me they are right, when they are ignoring all the facts.
 
Debating righties is easy . Call Them out on their lies . They then resort to name calling .

No we don't have to resort to what you do.

Actually look at the many threads on this forum...

OP say some right wing

Other idiots back him up

Pointed out it is a untrue or unfounded and there is evidence for the exact opposite..

OP insults the reply...

Other idiots back him up

They claim vistory...
 
IF YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING, ADMIT IT

That's where you lost republicans. When they don't know they simply invoke Obama or Clinton to avoid the point that was made.
The problem isn't what we know. It's what you don't know but swear is the only way that's the problem.

Yeah, that's like the quote from "The Big Short" and I agree. Except that doesn't address anything I've said.
It perfectly addresses what you said. Congrats you are now on the same side as the too big to fail banks that didn't understand what was happening. But that is the big government you want isn't it?
 
How do you debate a liberal who is determined to paint you as a racist, sexist, homophobe who still believes the Earth is flat?

For the answer, we look to KTTH host Ben Shapiro, fabled agitator of leftists everywhere. Shapiro has figured out a winning formula to defeat flawed leftist rhetoric.

On Oct. 3, 2013, Shapiro gave a groundbreaking lecture at the University of California San Diego’s David Horowitz Freedom Center called “How to Debate a Liberal,” a systematic guide to trouncing a lefty opponent.

Want a free eBook of Shapiro’s “How to Debate a Liberal” lesson? Click here to sign up to be a member – it’s free! – at Shapiro’s Truth Revolt website.

Shapiro opened his lecture with a useful lesson from recent political history: that Republicans lost the 2012 presidential election not because of policy, but because Democrats were able to frame Mitt Romney as a “bad guy,” and Barack Obama as a “nice guy.”

It’s a common leftist “bully tactic,” Shapiro says, that you must outmaneuver in order to win the debate.

Here are Shapiro’s steps to winning an argument against a liberal.

EMBRACE THE FIRE

Politics is war, Shapiro says, crediting his late friend Andrew Brietbart. So, if you’re going to get into a debate with a liberal, be ready to punch them hard – but also be willing to sustain a few punches yourself.

“You have to be willing to take the first punch,” Shapiro said.

Of course, that’s a rhetorical punch. You can land a hard one with the next step.

FRAME YOUR OPPONENT

Discussing gun control with liberal CNN host Piers Morgan on live TV in January 2013, Shapiro scored a near knockout in the first few seconds of the debate by framing his opponent. He accused Morgan of standing on the graves of murdered children to further his anti-gun agenda.

The result? Shapiro appeared as the victor in the debate, and as a reasonable, levelheaded, and competent opponent. Turn your lefty opponent’s ludicrous tactics against them by framing them as the bad guy.

FRAME THE DEBATE

Just as important as step No. 2 is putting your opponent on the defensive by framing the debate in a way that they are unfamiliar with, Shapiro says.

If the debate is about global warming, do not debate on whether it is manmade. Rather, debate about what policies can solve it.

If you are debating gun rights, prepare yourself for the standard liberal argument, which is that we don’t need guns at all. Instead, ask them what we can do to curb gun violence, and violence as a whole.

“You have to frame the debate in ways they’re not familiar with,” Shapiro said. “Otherwise, it turns into a character argument. You’re a flat-Earther, you’re corrupt, you’re mean, you’re stupid – these are the lines of [liberal] attack.”

SPOT THEIR INCONSISTENCIES

Every single leftist argument is full of inconsistencies. They claim they want marriage equality, but at the same time they want to force churches to endorse an irreligious practice; they want universal government-sponsored health care, but they do not support forcing people to become doctors, which would be necessarily to support such a massive program.

The positive thing is this irrational logic is easy to spot. Do not be afraid to point out these wacky contradictions.

FORCE THEM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

Sure, liberals love to put conservatives on the defense by forcing them to answer questions, but do liberals have to answer?

Force them to answer questions. If they are pro-gay marriage, ask them which parent is less vital to a family: the mother or the father. Chances are, they’ll have to concede that a family is better with a mother and a father, not just one or the other. And, if they’re for the separation of church and state, ask them if they think government should be forced to perform same-sex marriages.

DON’T GET DISTRACTED

Liberals love George W. Bush. That is, they love to invoke his name to prove that Republicans and conservatives are incompetent. Ignore weak rhetorical tactics. Stay focused on the debate at hand, not left field references that leftists use to make you look weak.

YOU DON’T HAVE TO DEFEND ALL CONSERVATIVES

It’s not your job to defend every conservative. Conservatives are human and often do any say things you might not always disagree with. Just because you voted for someone and largely agree with their views doesn’t mean you have to defend them.

If your liberal opponent wants to bring up something Reagan did or said 30 years ago, tell them to build a time machine. If you stand around defending every conservative ever, you’re going to waste a bunch of time and energy.

IF YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING, ADMIT IT

You are not an oracle, and you’re not Google. You don’t need to know everything.

If a liberal challenges you on a topic you’re unfamiliar with, politely decline to talk about it. You’re allowed.

“If you don’t know something, don’t discuss the topic,” Shapiro said. “Say, ‘I haven’t researched it sufficiently.’ If they insist, tell them that they’re being unfair.

“Ego will kill you in these kinds of debates.”

LET THEM HAVE MEANINGLESS VICTORIES

Do you stand for diversity? Of course, why not?

Are you in favor of immigration reform? You betcha.

Conceding certain points to a liberal will accomplish several things. First, it puts them off guard. When they ask you if you support immigration reform, they’re expecting you to say “no,” which would allow them to accuse you of being a racist. The thing is the term “immigration reform” is essentially meaningless, which allows you to agree with it without conceding your position.

Second, it will make the liberal think you are more of a moderate, which has the effect of softening their rhetorical attack.

CONCLUSION

Above all, remember that leftists are not there to debate you; they are there to use you to prove that conservatism is a radical ideology that professes racist, sexist ideals. It isn’t true, of course, but you can’t win an argument with someone who hates you for your beliefs.

Instead, debate liberals on substance and policy, Shapiro says.

“The left has only one play,” Shapiro says. “The play is ‘you’re nasty.’”

I get a lot of nonsense debate tactics. This isn't about finding the truth, it's about winning, or at least of failure is coming right at you, to divert away so quickly that you can save face.

It's bullshit, because you want to avoid reality.

I can debate all day about the 2A and no one will provide any evidence to back themselves up, but continually tell me they are right, when they are ignoring all the facts.


So, tell me what "reality" is as to what it means to you and the world according to your point of view....because I have no problem AT all "debating" by any terms that you wish to lay down. There are times that you seem to have an actual clue and then there are times that you don't. So what are the ground rules and what topic do you wish to discuss? I don't shy away from anything.........let's see what ya got?
 

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