How to Cut the Military Budget

Here we go with the political stalemate.

Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "What?"
Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "But cut what?"
Not quite...

Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"
Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"

But don't even utter a whisper about reducing the baseline increases, let alone propose actual cuts, in spending for their beloved domestic socialistic welfare state.

We have already cut domestic spending. Your turn.

Oh this oughtta be good....

REALLY???????????
 
Here we go with the political stalemate.

Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "What?"
Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "But cut what?"
Not quite...

Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"
Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"

But don't even utter a whisper about reducing the baseline increases, let alone propose actual cuts, in spending for their beloved domestic socialistic welfare state.

We have already cut domestic spending. Your turn.

Another boldface lie by the troll....
 
Not quite...

Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"
Repubs say "Cut!"
Dems say "The military!"

But don't even utter a whisper about reducing the baseline increases, let alone propose actual cuts, in spending for their beloved domestic socialistic welfare state.

We have already cut domestic spending. Your turn.

Another boldface lie by the troll....

Oh, he believes it. Trust me. He argued to me that since taxes weren't increased as expected, that was actually a tax cut.

This guy's the epitome of Sophistry and circular logic.
 
I think you are leaving out Discretionary Spending. Let's look at 2010:
The point is that you cannot cut $1T in spending when $655B was spent.
Did you even read the article? The proposal is over 10 years. Not 1.
That makes it even sillier.

Assuming that federal spending does not increase at -ALL- from FY2009, you're talking $1T
across $35.1T in spending, a 2.8% reduction in spending.

Assuming that Federal spending grows at just 4% for each of the next 10 years - half of the average growth of federal spending over the last 10 years) that's $1T over almost $45T, or 2.2% reduction in spending.

There's lots of time and effort here that could be put into something that makes a significant difference.
 
The point is that you cannot cut $1T in spending when $655B was spent.
Did you even read the article? The proposal is over 10 years. Not 1.
That makes it even sillier.

Assuming that federal spending does not increase at -ALL- from FY2009, you're talking $1T
across $35.1T in spending, a 2.8% reduction in spending.

Assuming that Federal spending grows at just 4% for each of the next 10 years - half of the average growth of federal spending over the last 10 years) that's $1T over almost $45T, or 2.2% reduction in spending.

There's lots of time and effort here that could be put into something that makes a significant difference.

Whats silly is you came in here ready to argue and didn't even bother reading the article first.

You obviously aren't interested in constructive discussion, just shooting down the whole concept of military spending cuts no matter what.
 
Did you even read the article? The proposal is over 10 years. Not 1.
That makes it even sillier.

Assuming that federal spending does not increase at -ALL- from FY2009, you're talking $1T
across $35.1T in spending, a 2.8% reduction in spending.

Assuming that Federal spending grows at just 4% for each of the next 10 years - half of the average growth of federal spending over the last 10 years) that's $1T over almost $45T, or 2.2% reduction in spending.

There's lots of time and effort here that could be put into something that makes a significant difference.

Whats silly is you came in here ready to argue and didn't even bother reading the article first.
I see you ddin't even TRY try to address what I said.
 
That makes it even sillier.

Assuming that federal spending does not increase at -ALL- from FY2009, you're talking $1T
across $35.1T in spending, a 2.8% reduction in spending.

Assuming that Federal spending grows at just 4% for each of the next 10 years - half of the average growth of federal spending over the last 10 years) that's $1T over almost $45T, or 2.2% reduction in spending.

There's lots of time and effort here that could be put into something that makes a significant difference.

Whats silly is you came in here ready to argue and didn't even bother reading the article first.
I see you ddin't even TRY try to address what I said.


So if it's only 2.2% and thats not enough of a cut like you say, then how would you cut the military budget so that it is a worthwhile cut and makes an actual difference?
 
I guess a page and a half before this went off topic is not too bad.
The cuts have to come across the board, not just from one sector.

I, for one, am all for cutting the needless and wasteful military spending associated with maintaining quasi-empire in Europe, Japan and elsewhere.....It won't be too difficult to bring military budgets within the percentages in the OP, with that as an important first step.

Yet we rarely, if ever, get to hear those who would so cheerfully cut the military, wield the cleaver in the direction of their beloved socialistic welfare state...Indeed, they'll be the first ones to glom onto the money not spent in that military waste, in order to squander on further expansion of those equally pointless and failed programs.
 
I guess a page and a half before this went off topic is not too bad.
The cuts have to come across the board, not just from one sector.

I, for one, am all for cutting the needless and wasteful military spending associated with maintaining quasi-empire in Europe, Japan and elsewhere.....It won't be too difficult to bring military budgets within the percentages in the OP, with that as an important first step.

Yet we rarely, if ever, get to hear those who would so cheerfully cut the military, wield the cleaver in the direction of their beloved socialistic welfare state...Indeed, they'll be the first ones to glom onto the money not spent in that military waste, in order to squander on further expansion of those equally pointless and failed programs.

I was there as clinton put vets in the streets with one hand and increased welfare spending with the other.
 
Whats silly is you came in here ready to argue and didn't even bother reading the article first.
I see you ddin't even TRY try to address what I said.
So if it's only 2.2% and thats not enough of a cut like you say, then how would you cut the military budget so that it is a worthwhile cut and makes an actual difference?
Your red herring still doesn't t address what I said. This supposed $100B/yr cut strung over 10 years is meaningless compared to the total amount of momey spent, especially given the exceptionally low rates of projected growth in that spending. It also does not address the REAL issue behind the deficts - out of control etitlement spending, as that proposed $100B cut is 20% of just the GROWTH of entitlement spending.

Until that issue is addressed, there need be no conversation regarding cutting defense as defense spending doesn't drive the deficit.
 
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I see you ddin't even TRY try to address what I said.
So if it's only 2.2% and thats not enough of a cut like you say, then how would you cut the military budget so that it is a worthwhile cut and makes an actual difference?
Your red herring still doesn't t address what I said. This supposed $100B/yr cut strung over 10 years is meaningless compared to the total amount of momey spent, especially given the exceptionally low rates of projected growth in that spending. It also does not address the REAL issue behind the deficts - out of control etitlement spending, as that proposed $100B cut is 20% of just the GROWTH of entitlement spending.

Until that issue is addressed, there need be no conversation regarding cutting defense as defense spending doesn't drive the deficit.

So start a thread about your specific plans to cut entitlement programs. This thread is about ways to cut from military spending. I'm not arguing that cuts can't be made in MANY places, however this is not the thread for those other areas.
 
So if it's only 2.2% and thats not enough of a cut like you say, then how would you cut the military budget so that it is a worthwhile cut and makes an actual difference?
Your red herring still doesn't t address what I said. This supposed $100B/yr cut strung over 10 years is meaningless compared to the total amount of momey spent, especially given the exceptionally low rates of projected growth in that spending. It also does not address the REAL issue behind the deficts - out of control etitlement spending, as that proposed $100B cut is 20% of just the GROWTH of entitlement spending.

Until that issue is addressed, there need be no conversation regarding cutting defense as defense spending doesn't drive the deficit.

So start a thread about your specific plans to cut entitlement programs. This thread is about ways to cut from military spending.
Yes... which is a useless exercise.
 
usgs_piecol.php


US Federal Budget Pie Chart for FY11 - Charts

25% is a big chunk that deserves some cutting.

Let's look deeper - same source

Defense 928.5 units in Billions

[+] Military defense 749.7
Civil defense 0.0
[+] Veterans 124.5
[+] Foreign military aid 10.1
[+] Foreign economic aid 44.1
R&D Defense 0.0
[+] Defense n.e.c. 0.0

In 1 trillion dollars...there's got to be something you can cut that matters.
 
25% is a big chunk that deserves some cutting.
....
In 1 trillion dollars...there's got to be something you can cut that matters.
You can inflate any number by inputing other things to it, just as we see here.
Of course, when you do that, it means you're just making things up.
Generally, -that- means you dont have much to stand on, and you know it.
 
We need to reassess the roles and missions of our global forces. Very little of our massive military budget is used in protecting the US itself. Being a Super Power is one thing....do we need to be a Mega Super Power?

We need to start farming out some of our current global protection to the EU
 

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