How to beat your wife

jimnyc

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Aug 28, 2003
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A Muslim cleric who wrote a book that advised men how to beat up their wives without leaving incriminating marks has been sentenced by a Spanish court.

Mohamed Kamal Mustafa was given 15 months in jail, which he will not serve as Spanish law suspends sentences of under two years for first offences.

Mustafa's book, Women in Islam, sparked outrage among women's groups when it was published three years ago.

In his defence, the imam said he was interpreting passages from the Koran.

A jury in Barcelona found Mustafa guilty of inciting violence against women, lawyer Jose Luis Bravo told reporters.

He was also fined euros 2,160 ($2,735).

Removed

In his book, Mustafa wrote that in disciplining a disobedient wife: "The blows should be concentrated on the hands and feet using a rod that is thin and light so that it does not leave scars or bruises on the body."

Mustafa - imam at the mosque in the southern Spanish town of Fuengirola - said he was opposed to violence against women and had been simply interpreting the Koran.

The book incensed women's groups and, in July 2000, around 90 groups filed a lawsuit in a Barcelona court to have the book withdrawn.

The book - some 3,000 copies of which had already been distributed - was removed from Islamic cultural centres around Spain.

Spanish concerns

The BBC's Katya Adler in Madrid says domestic violence is an issue of growing public concern in Spain, where until just over 25 years ago it was not considered a criminal offence.

Women's groups across the country were celebrating the sentence, she added.

Two groups representing Spanish Muslims came forward ahead of the trial distance themselves from the cleric's book, saying that the Koran and other sacred texts condemned violence against women.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3396597.stm
 
Some one should read the book and give him a beating in the manner he has described it.
 
I think the most interesting part is that he claims to have directly interpreted his message from the Qu'ran.
 
A tribute to 'Mom'

Thank You Mom For Not Blowing Yourself Up
By Frank J.

Mom, you've always been there for me,
Whether with band-aid in hand or bail money.
And though that may not seem like some great feat,
I now appreciate that you never blew up across some street.

And though it angered me you wouldn�t buy me a sugary cereal,
At least you never sought revenge against Israel.
Instead you were there to tuck me in at night,
Not running out the door strapping on dynamite.

Though I did once try to goad you
When I broke a vase and blamed it on a Jew,
But you were too smart for that
And knew the culprit was my bat.

Now I don't remember to call every weekend and take it for granted
That the plight of the Palestinians never made you murderously disenchanted.
I just hope that the relationship between us has not corroded,
So know I love you, Mom, and am glad you're not exploded.
 
Jim, you are apparently not appreciating the joys of diversity. You see, all cultures have something wonderful to contribute to our lovely melting pot in America. All cultures are equal. Some just like to beat their wives and cut off their little girls' private parts.
 
All ideas should be allowed and publishable. Acting on those ideas is where crimes come in. Thoughts should never be made illegal.
 
Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
All ideas should be allowed and publishable. Acting on those ideas is where crimes come in. Thoughts should never be made illegal.

I agree to an extent.

Correction: Female circumcision (mutilation, I call it) is not an Islamic trait, nor is it in any reliable Islamic text. This not part of Islam.
Nor is wife beating.
 
Originally posted by the truth hurts
I agree to an extent.

Correction: Female circumcision (mutilation, I call it) is not an Islamic trait, nor is it in any reliable Islamic text. This not part of Islam.
Nor is wife beating.

There are FAR too many muslim men that beat their wives. The entire way women are treated is despicable. These men are a bunch of scumbags.
 
Originally posted by jimnyc
There are FAR too many muslim men that beat their wives. The entire way women are treated is despicable. These men are a bunch of scumbags.

I agree.
There are also too many non muslim men that beat their wives as well. This is a universal virus, that sees no denomination.

Lets not pinpoint it on a specific people.

Islam opposses marital beatings (man on wife or wife on man).
 
Originally posted by the truth hurts
Islam opposses marital beatings (man on wife or wife on man).

You can claim it happens universally, which it does, but it's especially rampant amongst muslims. If they are opposed to it they sure have a strange way of showing it.
 
Originally posted by jimnyc
You can claim it happens universally, which it does, but it's especially rampant amongst muslims. If they are opposed to it they sure have a strange way of showing it.

What evidence do you have that its rampant among muslims?
I'd love to see it.
I'd also like to see the statistical comparison from this "muslim" category and we can compare it against the national US stats.
To prove that its rampant in comparison to the US.
 
Originally posted by the truth hurts
What evidence do you have that its rampant among muslims?
I'd love to see it.
I'd also like to see the statistical comparison from this "muslim" category and we can compare it against the national US stats.
To prove that its rampant in comparison to the US.

The evidence is the thousands upon thousands of articles/interviews available.

The treatment of Muslim women is disgusting.
 
Originally posted by jimnyc
The evidence is the thousands upon thousands of articles/interviews available.

The treatment of Muslim women is disgusting.

I hear what your saying... but that ain't proof.

Come with proof and we'll talk!
 
Originally posted by the truth hurts
I hear what your saying... but that ain't proof.

Come with proof and we'll talk!

Sure is!

Watch the video, this guy said he learned to be a wife beater by interpreting passages from the Qu'ran.

Why do women get abused so much by Muslim men? Does it make them feel more powerful?
 
"There are also many reasons why women do not leave their abusive husbands. The Muslim family is considered the “bedrock of society”. Islam deems the marriage relationship private. Some people do not think that abuse is of concern to anyone, but the couple. Women who leave their husbands are often considered “home wreckers.” The husband on the other hand, can still be a pillar of society. “While he may have terrorized his wife and offspring, he continues as an accepted member of the community—unhampered, unchallenged and unaccountable for his actions."

There are probably more abused Muslim women unreported than their are reported!

http://www.warnerpacific.edu/Personal/MLintner/meganpaper.htm

"Despite the growing numbers, domestic violence in Muslim communities is considered low or non-existent because it has gone unreported and undocumented, in addition to a lack of social service organizations (culturally and religiously sensitive) to address this particular problem." ... "Tragically, some Muslim men actually used Islam to “justify” their abusive behavior. Focusing on rituals, considering themselves to be Islamically knowledgeable, and disregarding the spirit of Islam, they wrongly used the Qur’anic verse that says men are the protectors and maintainers of women to go on power trips, demand total obedience and order their wives around. They disregard the Islamic requirements for the head of the household to consult with other members of the family when making decisions. Then, if their wives dare to speak up or question their orders, these men misinterpret a Qur’anic verse that talks about how to treat disobedient wife and use it as a license for abuse."

http://www.iifhr.com/womens website/ppdomesticviolence.html

"Wife abuse has hurt many Muslim women, destroyed many Muslim families, and weakened the entire Muslim community. How much longer can Muslims afford to look the other way?"

"Based on information from Muslim leaders, social workers, and activists in North America, the North American Council for Muslim Women says that approximately 10 percent of Muslim women are abused emotionally, physically, and sexually by their Muslim husbands. (There are no hard numbers, because community leaders haven't taken the well-known problem seriously enough to research.)"

http://www.domini.org/lam/wifeabusemuslimcomm.html

http://www.islamicaweb.com/showthread/t-9956.html

Straight from the Muslim Women's League:
http://www.mwlusa.org/publications/positionpapers/hk.html

This is simply disgusting!
http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/wife-beating.htm

How very sad:
http://www.hraic.org/punishment_of_muslim_women.html

Muslim women fighting for their rights:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/genislam.htm

The oppressed women of Islam:
http://www.islamfortoday.com/ummzaid06.htm
 
Praise ALLAH for the sickness of these people!!!!!!!!! Allah can kiss my left cheeck!!!!!!!!!
 
Unfortunately you guys are just a waste of time. Insult, insult, insult, thats all you come up with. No arguments, no intelligent discussion, just insult.
Well have fun with yourselves. Dwelve on how much you hate muslims, no one takes you guys seriously anyways.
 
Originally posted by the truth hurts
Unfortunately you guys are just a waste of time. Insult, insult, insult, thats all you come up with. No arguments, no intelligent discussion, just insult.
Well have fun with yourselves. Dwelve on how much you hate muslims, no one takes you guys seriously anyways.

Can't argue the facts, can you? Do you beat women too?
 

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