How the tea party can gain wide respect

[Truthmatters]

Fact, you said "The dems did not vote for war......"

Fact, I proved you to be a liar, because not only did the Democrats vote for it, a MAJORITY of them voted for it. It's right there in that very thread.

More lies from Truthmatters, she can't even tell the truth when it's right there in front of her face.

Rick

Then you failed to read my poist about what the actual piece of legislation they voted on said.

I also said in that same damned sentance you ar talking about that NO ONE who voted on that legislation voted for war.

it was not a declaration of war that was voted on.

 

[hboats]

Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What They Believe - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,580 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 5-12, 2010. Phone numbers were dialed from RDD samples of both standard land-lines and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.


An oversample of people who describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement were interviewed, for a total of 881 interviews. The results were then weighted in proportion to the adult population. The margin of error for the sample of Tea Party supporters is three points. This poll release conforms to the Standards of Disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.

I could give a flying fuck if they called "both standard land-lines and cell phones." Where is the demographics of the survey participants.

They (CBS News) can't even be honest enough to include the racial makeup of the survey participants in the poll. How do I know that the survey participants don't include more that 1% African Americans, and therefore the results are already skewed towards their intended goal of making the result be only 1% of African Americans support the Tea Party.

It's a flawed and dishonest poll.

Rick

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...eases-under-dems-budget-plan.html#post2236398

Here is my post so please quit lying about what I said

 

[Truthmatters]

Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What They Believe - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,580 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 5-12, 2010. Phone numbers were dialed from RDD samples of both standard land-lines and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.


An oversample of people who describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement were interviewed, for a total of 881 interviews. The results were then weighted in proportion to the adult population. The margin of error for the sample of Tea Party supporters is three points. This poll release conforms to the Standards of Disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.

I could give a flying fuck if they called "both standard land-lines and cell phones." Where is the demographics of the survey participants.

They (CBS News) can't even be honest enough to include the racial makeup of the survey participants in the poll. How do I know that the survey participants don't include more that 1% African Americans, and therefore the results are already skewed towards their intended goal of making the result be only 1% of African Americans support the Tea Party.

It's a flawed and dishonest poll.

Rick

Dude the question that asks them what racial group they belomng to is the racial makeup of the group.


How can you get that sooo confused in your head?

 

[hboats]

I'm sorry, I totally forgot about the quote that is my signature. I'm sure you're going to tell me now that you didn't say that either. You very clearly claim that Republicans are "the racist party." Now go ahead and tell me that you didn't say it. And there's your proof that you are trying to paint the whole of the party that opposes you as being racist.

Rick

 

[Truthmatters]

Nope I said that one and now go get the whole post

 

[hboats]

Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What They Believe - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,580 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 5-12, 2010. Phone numbers were dialed from RDD samples of both standard land-lines and cell phones. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points. The error for subgroups is higher.


An oversample of people who describe themselves as supporters of the Tea Party movement were interviewed, for a total of 881 interviews. The results were then weighted in proportion to the adult population. The margin of error for the sample of Tea Party supporters is three points. This poll release conforms to the Standards of Disclosure of the National Council on Public Polls.

I could give a flying fuck if they called "both standard land-lines and cell phones." Where is the demographics of the survey participants.

They (CBS News) can't even be honest enough to include the racial makeup of the survey participants in the poll. How do I know that the survey participants don't include more that 1% African Americans, and therefore the results are already skewed towards their intended goal of making the result be only 1% of African Americans support the Tea Party.

It's a flawed and dishonest poll.

Rick

Dude the question that asks them what racial group they belomng to is the racial makeup of the group.


How can you get that sooo confused in your head?

So, if that's what you're going to use as your answer (which is not true, because it CLEARLY says "Who are the Tea Party Supporters" so the only racial makeup that is reported in the poll is the race of the 56% that said that they support the Tea Party) then you're admitting that the poll is dishonest because as we all know the population of the U.S. is at least 11% African American, but the poll only surveyed 1% African American participants. It's really very simple, the poll is flawed and dishonest.

Rick

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-who-represents-mexico-first.html#post2235877

here is the post where I said that and why.


BTW do you understand how polling works?

If you dont accept the results of this poll it means you cant respect ANY poll.

 

[hboats]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-who-represents-mexico-first.html#post2235877

here is the post where I said that and why.


BTW do you understand how polling works?

If you dont accept the results of this poll it means you cant respect ANY poll.

I don't accept MOST polls, but I especially don't accept a poll which is trying to make an assumption about racial makeup of ANYTHING when they don't AT THE VERY LEAST include the average demographic makeup of the U.S. in their survey participants. This poll DID NOT, so there is no way you can use it as a barometer of the racial makeup of the Tea Party.

Like I've said MANY times now. This poll is AT BEST flawed, and when you actually look at the process used it is dishonest. Are you starting to understand now why that is? Or are you going to still claim that it is a true test of the Tea Party's racial makeup?

Rick

 

[Truthmatters]

You have pro en no lies by me and just claiming you have is insanity

Ok, but remember I didn't want to do this.

Proof that you lied when posting the link as proof that there is racism in the Tea Party when they ejected the guy with the sign. That's a lie.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-p...arty-can-gain-wide-respect-3.html#post2238944

Proof that the poll you use over and over is B.S. and is not at all representative of the Tea Party.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-p...ier-blasts-nyt-race-baiter-2.html#post2235837

Proof that you lied about the CBO score of the Health Care Reform.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...added-tax-may-be-an-option-5.html#post2235813

Proof that you lied when you stated that NOT ONE Democrat voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...ses-under-dems-budget-plan-2.html#post2236427

Is that enough or do you want me to get more?

Rick

Good job...

Truthdoesntmatter has been a proven to be a lying sack of shit over and over again...

How foolish are you for not reading any of his links to realize he was just flailing and his links did not say anything that he claimed they did.

You see just pretending to poove something is not the same as prooving something.

Kinda like claiming you know where all the weapons are that turn out NOT to exsist at all.

 

[hboats]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-who-represents-mexico-first.html#post2235877

here is the post where I said that and why.

I notice you haven't responded to my question about your poll, and I guess since I've proved that it's pretty much a B.S. poll you'll ignore it.

But, I'll now address the above quote.

You're saying that it's ok for you to claim that the whole of the Republican party is racist since you've done it in response to someone else? How does that make it ok? It doesn't, and you're dead wrong, but you won't admit it.

Rick

 

[CMike]

Anyone with a brain, obviously excluding liberals, knows what this is about.

This is about the left wingers trying to create diversion away from their communist/socialist polices.

They know that they can't battle conservatives in the realm of ideas, so they have to try demonize their dissenters and painy them as evil

This is the liberal strategy.

It's very unethical and it stinks.

 

[Truthmatters]

You have said teh poll is flawed but given no evidence it is flawed.

Just like your phoney links which proved nothing that you claimed they did about me.

 

[CMike]

The real question is how the liberal media will get respect.

 

[hboats]

You have said teh poll is flawed but given no evidence it is flawed.

Just like your phoney links which proved nothing that you claimed they did about me.

So, you don't think a poll whose participants are only 1% African American is flawed when the demographics of the U.S. are at least 11% African American? I gave you cold hard proof that this poll does not represent a cross section of the U.S. while claiming that it in fact is an accurate representation of the U.S.

I can't make it any more clear than that, and I'm sure that every other person who has read this thread sees my point, except for you. You just can't admit that this poll is dishonest even when given cold hard proof that it is.

Rick

 

[Dr.House]

Ok, but remember I didn't want to do this.

Proof that you lied when posting the link as proof that there is racism in the Tea Party when they ejected the guy with the sign. That's a lie.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-p...arty-can-gain-wide-respect-3.html#post2238944

Proof that the poll you use over and over is B.S. and is not at all representative of the Tea Party.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-p...ier-blasts-nyt-race-baiter-2.html#post2235837

Proof that you lied about the CBO score of the Health Care Reform.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/curre...added-tax-may-be-an-option-5.html#post2235813

Proof that you lied when you stated that NOT ONE Democrat voted for the Iraq War Resolution.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...ses-under-dems-budget-plan-2.html#post2236427

Is that enough or do you want me to get more?

Rick

Good job...

Truthdoesntmatter has been a proven to be a lying sack of shit over and over again...

How foolish are you for not reading any of his links to realize he was just flailing and his links did not say anything that he claimed they did.

You see just pretending to poove something is not the same as prooving something.

Kinda like claiming you know where all the weapons are that turn out NOT to exsist at all.

You are a proven liar... You should really be ashamed, but you're too stupid to realize the extent of your ablilty to lie at will...

 

[Truthmatters]

You have said teh poll is flawed but given no evidence it is flawed.

Just like your phoney links which proved nothing that you claimed they did about me.

So, you don't think a poll whose participants are only 1% African American is flawed when the demographics of the U.S. are at least 11% African American? I gave you cold hard proof that this poll does not represent a cross section of the U.S. while claiming that it in fact is an accurate representation of the U.S.

I can't make it any more clear than that, and I'm sure that every other person who has read this thread sees my point, except for you. You just can't admit that this poll is dishonest even when given cold hard proof that it is.

Rick

They called people and asked them if they were tea party members.

Then they asked them other questions.

It turns out of this random group only 1% of these self identified tea party supporters is black.

You really cant admitt a loss can you?

 

[Truthmatters]

Good job...

Truthdoesntmatter has been a proven to be a lying sack of shit over and over again...

How foolish are you for not reading any of his links to realize he was just flailing and his links did not say anything that he claimed they did.

You see just pretending to poove something is not the same as prooving something.

Kinda like claiming you know where all the weapons are that turn out NOT to exsist at all.

You are a proven liar... You should really be ashamed, but you're too stupid to realize the extent of your ablilty to lie at will...

if you repete a lie it does not make it true.

This is why the right is foundering in the modern world , you embrace lies.

 

[hboats]

You have said teh poll is flawed but given no evidence it is flawed.

Just like your phoney links which proved nothing that you claimed they did about me.

So, you don't think a poll whose participants are only 1% African American is flawed when the demographics of the U.S. are at least 11% African American? I gave you cold hard proof that this poll does not represent a cross section of the U.S. while claiming that it in fact is an accurate representation of the U.S.

I can't make it any more clear than that, and I'm sure that every other person who has read this thread sees my point, except for you. You just can't admit that this poll is dishonest even when given cold hard proof that it is.

Rick

They called people and asked them if they were tea party members.

Then they asked them other questions.

It turns out of this random group only 1% of these self identified tea party supporters is black.

You really cant admitt a loss can you?

Wow, you really are a thick headed idiot aren't you?

Please give me the racial demographic of the survey participants.

Since you can't seem to understand what that means, please tell me exactly what percentage of the survey participants are African American.

Here's a hint, you can't do it because they do not provide those numbers.

Here's a little lessen for you on polls. Most, if not all, polls are out to prove or disprove a point. This poll is out to prove that the Tea Party is not inclusive of all races. Most, if not all, polls then start with their conclusion and then do EVERYTHING they can to prove it. If that means only including 1% African Americans in their survey participants to prove that only 1% of African Americans are supporters of the Tea Party, that's what they'll do.

Now, if this poll had stated that it took a TRUE cross section of the demographics of the U.S. population, it MIGHT be a little more honest. But, the fact that they DO NOT tell you the racial makeup of the survey participants means that they have something to hide.

I'm sure you still will not admit it, but this poll is useless, and flawed, and totally dishonest.

Rick

 

[Dr.House]

How foolish are you for not reading any of his links to realize he was just flailing and his links did not say anything that he claimed they did.

You see just pretending to poove something is not the same as prooving something.

Kinda like claiming you know where all the weapons are that turn out NOT to exsist at all.

You are a proven liar... You should really be ashamed, but you're too stupid to realize the extent of your ablilty to lie at will...

if you repete a lie it does not make it true.

You should stop repeating your lies....