How Much Power does a President have...

[PackMule]

Why should he? What difference does it make that he is black?
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He has Back Up!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Not mush these days.The president is just a puppet for a group of people that tells him what to do.Thats not the way its suppose to be.Thats not what our forefathers faught for but thats the way it is.Presidents these days arent there to serve the people.were screwed with either one of these candidates in office.

 

[bigdaddygtr]

I voted for Obama because he is half white.

And I almost voted for McCain because he promised to rid the world of Arab's.



Don't sound to good does it you jackass

 

[PackMule]

I voted for Obama because he is half white.

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You should only get 1/2 a vote!!!

 

[WillowTree]

The majority of a President's powers are percieved, not real. Since FDR, the Executive Office of the President has spread its wings alot. Obama will get more leeway for a couple of reasons. One, he will be the first Black President. Two, he will have a Deomcrat Congress. However, he won't the support he wants from Congress, because they have to get relelected too.

Domestic powers of the US President-

Ensure that US laws are carried
Oversee the creation of new regulatory bodies(ie. Homeland Security)
Create the National Budget
Levey tariffs
propose legislation

I believe this is about it.

So how did it come to pass that Bush is to blame for virtually everthing that has happened in the world since history began in the year of our lord 2000ad? She wondered outloud to herself while shaking her head in wonderment about libwal ability to pretzelize themselves. lolroflmao.

 

[WillowTree]

oic, this is a pre-emptive strike to hold the obamalama blameless for the abject failure he will display as a leader... goood joooobs.

 

[Sunni Man]

O.K. then.

How about I put it this way:

"I voted for Obama because he is hallf black"

Better?

 

[Turboswede]

I've read that if you don't vote for Obama it's because you're racist. I just saw a black woman on tv who said she voted for Obama primarily because he was black. Is this not also racist?

If Obama wins you believe he will get 'more leeway' because he will be the first black president.

Why should he? What difference does it make that he is black?

I don't think so unless she voted against McCain because he was white.

 

[pegwinn]

Presidential power did get a bit of a boost after FDR,

Ya think? And the phrase should be "during and following" vice "after" IMHO.

After Bush came to power, the president, by abuse of executive power, through things like signing statements and claiming executive privilege for things that were not privileged tried to undo the balance of power.

Methinks thou dost protest too much milady. "Things that were not" is your opinion and you are entitled of course. Signing statements are not unlawful, and since precedent matters in your world, GW wasn't the first.

I suspect that leash will be much tighter around McCain's neck should he win... and Palin would never be permitted to extend the power of the VP by so much as a millimeter.

I don't think it would be any worse than say Clinton and the GOP Congress.

 

[Annie]

Between ignoring the Constitution, signing statements, and executive orders I would say they have pretty much limitless powers.

Right. There was tons of criticism of Bush using signing statements, today though seems Barack can't wait to grab that pen 1/20/09. In which case, those that criticized loud and long should remember:

Print Story: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact - Yahoo! News

Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer
1 hr 31 mins ago
WASHINGTON – President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.

John Podesta, Obama's transition chief, said Sunday Obama is reviewing President Bush's executive orders on those issues and others as he works to undo policies enacted during eight years of Republican rule. He said the president can use such orders to move quickly on his own.

"There's a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we'll see the president do that," Podesta said. "I think that he feels like he has a real mandate for change. We need to get off the course that the Bush administration has set."....

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Right. There was tons of criticism of Bush using signing statements, today though seems Barack can't wait to grab that pen 1/20/09. In which case, those that criticized loud and long should remember:

Print Story: Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact - Yahoo! News

I'll wait for it to actually happen before I pass judgement, but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Annie]

I'll wait for it to actually happen before I pass judgement, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Never would have surprised me. What does is the inability of some to understand when they keep slamming the opposition for what they would in turn use, they are in for some ridicule to say the least. Just like the filabuster rules. The dems wanted to end the rules, but were glad they were there for judicial appointments. My guess is like the Fairness Doctrine, they'll try again. Bad politics mixed with possibility of unintended consequences.

 

[GigiBowman]

Here is the list of Heir Bush's Executive Orders:

Executive Orders Issued by President George W. Bush

 

[sealybobo]

What can they do on their own?

Great question

 

[Claudette]

The POTUS doesn't really have a lot of power and that's how the FF wanted it.

However he can use his pen and write executive orders which go around Congress.

 

[Iceweasel]

What can they do on their own?

Great question

You dug up an eight year old thread for that?

 

[Divine Wind]

The President only has as much power as his Z.O.G. masters allow for each individual issue.

All American presidents will put Israel's interests above the United States....

Incorrect, but many Islamic fanatics, terrorist supporters and/or antisemitics certainly want to believe this to be true. Obviously it's not and such insane beliefs is one of the many reasons they so often get their asses kicked in a modern world.

 

[hazlnut]

Between ignoring the Constitution, signing statements, and executive orders I would say they have pretty much limitless powers.

I would say you failed civics class.

 

[Divine Wind]

What can they do on their own?

The powers of the different branches of government are detailed in the Constitution. For the President, it's Article II.

Article II
Article II
The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each state having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of the said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by law provide for the case of removal, death, resignation or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President, and such officer shall act accordingly, until the disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Section 2.
The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.

The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.

Section 3.
He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he shall receive ambassadors and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.

Section 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The POTUS doesn't really have a lot of power and that's how the FF wanted it.

However he can use his pen and write executive orders which go around Congress.

And if his EO's are nothing more than an end run around congress, the next the other-party-potus will just undo them ... which leaves the originator without a legacy.