How much new taxes will I pay under the Patient Affordable Care Act?

[Mr.Nick]

Wait til those union members have to pay that"cadillac tax"

Obama has already thrown them waivers.....

The non-union private sector will foot the bill for all this shit...

And you think the waivers are forever??

HAHAHAHA!!

The simple fact he thew unions waivers shows how fucking partisan that fuckup Obama is...

Sure, why wouldn't they be under ANY progressive president.

 

[DontBeStupid]

Sometime in 2020:

AIDE: Congratulations on your election, Governor!

GOVERNOR: Thank you. So...this is Day One. Whattya got for me?

AIDE: Er...bad news, sir. Six years ago, our great state enrolled an additional three million people in Medicaid. The extra cost was subsidized by the federal government under Obama. Remember him?

GOVERNOR: And?

AIDE: Well, that subsidy has gone away, but the three million people have not.

GOVERNOR: So all that cost is now ours?

AIDE: Yes. And we don't have it. This is an extinction event. We have a state constitution which requires a balanced budget.

GOVERNOR: FUCK!!!!

AIDE: You have two choices, sir. Disenroll those three million people and face an occupation of the capital, or raise income and property taxes considerably.

GOVERNOR: No, I have three choices.

AIDE: What's the third choice?

GOVERNOR: Resign.

You do realize Romney signed into law what his state wanted? Romney knows a large portion of America does not want anything to do with obamacare, unlike his state.

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

 

[g5000]

Good stuff.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sometime in 2020:

AIDE: Congratulations on your election, Governor!

GOVERNOR: Thank you. So...this is Day One. Whattya got for me?

AIDE: Er...bad news, sir. Six years ago, our great state enrolled an additional three million people in Medicaid. The extra cost was subsidized by the federal government under Obama. Remember him?

GOVERNOR: And?

AIDE: Well, that subsidy has gone away, but the three million people have not.

GOVERNOR: So all that cost is now ours?

AIDE: Yes. And we don't have it. This is an extinction event. We have a state constitution which requires a balanced budget.

GOVERNOR: FUCK!!!!

AIDE: You have two choices, sir. Disenroll those three million people and face an occupation of the capital, or raise income and property taxes considerably.

GOVERNOR: No, I have three choices.

AIDE: What's the third choice?

GOVERNOR: Resign.

You do realize Romney signed into law what his state wanted? Romney knows a large portion of America does not want anything to do with obamacare, unlike his state.

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

Again Romney did what his liberal state wanted, he should do what the majority of America wants.

 

[Pho_King]

Sometime in 2020:

AIDE: Congratulations on your election, Governor!

GOVERNOR: Thank you. So...this is Day One. Whattya got for me?

AIDE: Er...bad news, sir. Six years ago, our great state enrolled an additional three million people in Medicaid. The extra cost was subsidized by the federal government under Obama. Remember him?

GOVERNOR: And?

AIDE: Well, that subsidy has gone away, but the three million people have not.

GOVERNOR: So all that cost is now ours?

AIDE: Yes. And we don't have it. This is an extinction event. We have a state constitution which requires a balanced budget.

GOVERNOR: FUCK!!!!

AIDE: You have two choices, sir. Disenroll those three million people and face an occupation of the capital, or raise income and property taxes considerably.

GOVERNOR: No, I have three choices.

AIDE: What's the third choice?

GOVERNOR: Resign.

You do realize Romney signed into law what his state wanted? Romney knows a large portion of America does not want anything to do with obamacare, unlike his state.

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

That large portion is justp just of the largest portion that gets out of the most onerous taxes. Talk about class envy.

 

[signelect]

What the hell is going on, the Supreme Court rules on a law that they are exempt from following and the law was passed by a congress that doesn't have to buyit because they created a health care plan for themsleves because they are too good for ours. We are fools for allowing it. Left and Right both wake up and smell the feces, it is not good.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Three new taxes will affect my company directly. To offset, we will layoff 4-6 employees to avoid absorbing the extra costs.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What the hell is going on, the Supreme Court rules on a law that they are exempt from following and the law was passed by a congress that doesn't have to buyit because they created a health care plan for themsleves because they are too good for ours. We are fools for allowing it. Left and Right both wake up and smell the feces, it is not good.

That kind of out burst does no good I know I have done it. All I can suggest is sit back prepare and watch everybody say what the fuck happen. Peace out.

 

[francoHFW]

Small businesse will save money if they already have insurance. There are things to help the others- Dems aren't trying to lose votes here, Pubs are fear mongering ignorance.

The feds will pay 100% of states' medicaid costs for three years, then all the way down to 90%, for good.

Unions have a waiver on their Cadillac plans only until their contracts run out and are renegotiated.

Pub dupes clueless as always- change the channel. Read something. CBO cost estimates do not include savings that aren't proven, but will happen..

 

[DontBeStupid]

You do realize Romney signed into law what his state wanted? Romney knows a large portion of America does not want anything to do with obamacare, unlike his state.

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

Again Romney did what his liberal state wanted, he should do what the majority of America wants.

And abolish all taxes? Hmm. Ok. But I don't see how that will reduce the deficit. Why do you think it will?

 

[Pho_King]

Small businesse will save money if they already have insurance. There are things to help the others- Dems aren't trying to lose votes here, Pubs are fear mongering ignorance.

The feds will pay 100% of states' medicaid costs for three years, then all the way down to 90%, for good.

Unions have a waiver on their Cadillac plans only until their contracts run out and are renegotiated.

Pub dupes clueless as always- change the channel. Read something. CBO cost estimates do not include savings that aren't proven, but will happen..

True dat. This entitlement is gonna be a money-printing machine!

 

[DontBeStupid]

Three new taxes will affect my company directly. To offset, we will layoff 4-6 employees to avoid absorbing the extra costs.

Hmm. Doing exactly the OPPOSITE of many "conservatives" here are saying you would do.

Interesting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

Again Romney did what his liberal state wanted, he should do what the majority of America wants.

And abolish all taxes? Hmm. Ok. But I don't see how that will reduce the deficit. Why do you think it will?

Can't stretch that far with you, how is abolishing all taxes having anything to do with obama's new tax and romney doing what his state wanted and Romney doing what the majority of America wants?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Small businesse will save money if they already have insurance. There are things to help the others- Dems aren't trying to lose votes here, Pubs are fear mongering ignorance.

The feds will pay 100% of states' medicaid costs for three years, then all the way down to 90%, for good.

Unions have a waiver on their Cadillac plans only until their contracts run out and are renegotiated.

Pub dupes clueless as always- change the channel. Read something. CBO cost estimates do not include savings that aren't proven, but will happen..

Americans for Tax Reform : Comprehensive List of Tax Hikes in Obamacare

 

[francoHFW]

Creates Health Insurance Exchanges to Increase Bargaining Power and Reduce Administrative Costs
Status Quo: Small Businesses Have Little Bargaining Power, Face High Administrative Costs. Currently, small businesses face not only premiums that are 18 percent higher than large businesses pay, but also face higher administrative costs to set up and maintain a health plan. The premiums they pay have 3 to 4 times as much administrative cost built into them as plans in the large group market. They are also at a disadvantage in negotiating with insurance companies because they lack bargaining power.
Solution: Health Insurance Exchanges will Provide More Choice, Lower Prices, and Greater Bargaining Power for Firms with up to 100 Employees. Health reform will change this dynamic. Starting by 2014, firms with 100 or fewer workers will be able pool their buying power and reduce administrative costs by purchasing insurance through an exchange. According to CBO, coverage that small businesses purchased through an exchange “would have lower administrative costs, on average, than the policies those firms would buy under current law, particularly for very small firms.”
Ends Price Discrimination against Small Businesses with Sick Workers
Status Quo: Small Businesses with Sick Worker Face Higher Prices, Sudden Price Increases. Currently, small businesses with just one sick worker can face significantly higher premiums, and having a worker fall ill can lead to a precipitous price increase -- raising premiums just when insurance is needed most.
Solution: Ending Price Discrimination Based on Illness. Health reform will end this price discrimination. Starting in 2014, “community rating” rules will prohibit insurers from charging more to cover small businesses with sicker workers or raising rates when someone gets sick.
Increases Health Care Security to Unlock Entrepreneurship
Status Quo: Health Insurance Insecurity Creates “Job Lock,” which Inhibits Entrepreneurship. Our current health care system inhibits entrepreneurship and small business formation by locking workers -- especially those with families or with any sort of health problem --into jobs at large firms that offer family coverage and have a big enough risk pool to absorb the cost of covering pre-existing conditions. This “job lock” causes many workers to stay at large firms even if they would be more productive working at a small business or becoming an entrepreneur.
Solution: Health Security Empowers Entrepreneurship. By providing health security for every American and eliminating exclusions for pre-existing conditions and price discrimination against those who are sick, health reform will make it easier for small businesses to attract the best workers and easier for entrepreneurs to strike out on their own.
Reduces the Hidden Tax on Small Business Employees with Health Insurance
Status Quo: Hidden Tax Adds $1,000 to Every Premium. Currently, the cost of treating the uninsured adds a “hidden tax” of over $1,000 to every health care premium.
Solution: Reduce Hidden Tax by Dramatically Expanding Coverage. Health reform will significantly reduce this tax by covering an additional 32 million additional Americans by 2019.
Reduces Premiums in the Small Group Market.
Status Quo: Higher Premiums Mean Coverage Is Unaffordable for Small Businesses. In a recent national survey, nearly three-quarters of small businesses that did not offer benefits cited high premiums as the reason.
Solution: Health Reform Will Lower Costs, Making Coverage More Affordable. Taken together, the measures described above will significantly reduce premiums for small businesses. According to CBO, health reform will reduce the cost of a given plan in the small group market by 1-4 percent by 2016.

Six Ways Health Reform will Help Small Businesses | The White House

 

[Pho_King]

Creates Health Insurance Exchanges to Increase Bargaining Power and Reduce Administrative Costs
Status Quo: Small Businesses Have Little Bargaining Power, Face High Administrative Costs. Currently, small businesses face not only premiums that are 18 percent higher than large businesses pay, but also face higher administrative costs to set up and maintain a health plan. The premiums they pay have 3 to 4 times as much administrative cost built into them as plans in the large group market. They are also at a disadvantage in negotiating with insurance companies because they lack bargaining power.
Solution: Health Insurance Exchanges will Provide More Choice, Lower Prices, and Greater Bargaining Power for Firms with up to 100 Employees. Health reform will change this dynamic. Starting by 2014, firms with 100 or fewer workers will be able pool their buying power and reduce administrative costs by purchasing insurance through an exchange. According to CBO, coverage that small businesses purchased through an exchange “would have lower administrative costs, on average, than the policies those firms would buy under current law, particularly for very small firms.”
Ends Price Discrimination against Small Businesses with Sick Workers
Status Quo: Small Businesses with Sick Worker Face Higher Prices, Sudden Price Increases. Currently, small businesses with just one sick worker can face significantly higher premiums, and having a worker fall ill can lead to a precipitous price increase -- raising premiums just when insurance is needed most.
Solution: Ending Price Discrimination Based on Illness. Health reform will end this price discrimination. Starting in 2014, “community rating” rules will prohibit insurers from charging more to cover small businesses with sicker workers or raising rates when someone gets sick.
Increases Health Care Security to Unlock Entrepreneurship
Status Quo: Health Insurance Insecurity Creates “Job Lock,” which Inhibits Entrepreneurship. Our current health care system inhibits entrepreneurship and small business formation by locking workers -- especially those with families or with any sort of health problem --into jobs at large firms that offer family coverage and have a big enough risk pool to absorb the cost of covering pre-existing conditions. This “job lock” causes many workers to stay at large firms even if they would be more productive working at a small business or becoming an entrepreneur.
Solution: Health Security Empowers Entrepreneurship. By providing health security for every American and eliminating exclusions for pre-existing conditions and price discrimination against those who are sick, health reform will make it easier for small businesses to attract the best workers and easier for entrepreneurs to strike out on their own.
Reduces the Hidden Tax on Small Business Employees with Health Insurance
Status Quo: Hidden Tax Adds $1,000 to Every Premium. Currently, the cost of treating the uninsured adds a “hidden tax” of over $1,000 to every health care premium.
Solution: Reduce Hidden Tax by Dramatically Expanding Coverage. Health reform will significantly reduce this tax by covering an additional 32 million additional Americans by 2019.
Reduces Premiums in the Small Group Market.
Status Quo: Higher Premiums Mean Coverage Is Unaffordable for Small Businesses. In a recent national survey, nearly three-quarters of small businesses that did not offer benefits cited high premiums as the reason.
Solution: Health Reform Will Lower Costs, Making Coverage More Affordable. Taken together, the measures described above will significantly reduce premiums for small businesses. According to CBO, health reform will reduce the cost of a given plan in the small group market by 1-4 percent by 2016.

Six Ways Health Reform will Help Small Businesses | The White House

Finally, someone who properly places their faith...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Creates Health Insurance Exchanges to Increase Bargaining Power and Reduce Administrative Costs
Status Quo: Small Businesses Have Little Bargaining Power, Face High Administrative Costs. Currently, small businesses face not only premiums that are 18 percent higher than large businesses pay, but also face higher administrative costs to set up and maintain a health plan. The premiums they pay have 3 to 4 times as much administrative cost built into them as plans in the large group market. They are also at a disadvantage in negotiating with insurance companies because they lack bargaining power.
Solution: Health Insurance Exchanges will Provide More Choice, Lower Prices, and Greater Bargaining Power for Firms with up to 100 Employees. Health reform will change this dynamic. Starting by 2014, firms with 100 or fewer workers will be able pool their buying power and reduce administrative costs by purchasing insurance through an exchange. According to CBO, coverage that small businesses purchased through an exchange “would have lower administrative costs, on average, than the policies those firms would buy under current law, particularly for very small firms.”
Ends Price Discrimination against Small Businesses with Sick Workers
Status Quo: Small Businesses with Sick Worker Face Higher Prices, Sudden Price Increases. Currently, small businesses with just one sick worker can face significantly higher premiums, and having a worker fall ill can lead to a precipitous price increase -- raising premiums just when insurance is needed most.
Solution: Ending Price Discrimination Based on Illness. Health reform will end this price discrimination. Starting in 2014, “community rating” rules will prohibit insurers from charging more to cover small businesses with sicker workers or raising rates when someone gets sick.
Increases Health Care Security to Unlock Entrepreneurship
Status Quo: Health Insurance Insecurity Creates “Job Lock,” which Inhibits Entrepreneurship. Our current health care system inhibits entrepreneurship and small business formation by locking workers -- especially those with families or with any sort of health problem --into jobs at large firms that offer family coverage and have a big enough risk pool to absorb the cost of covering pre-existing conditions. This “job lock” causes many workers to stay at large firms even if they would be more productive working at a small business or becoming an entrepreneur.
Solution: Health Security Empowers Entrepreneurship. By providing health security for every American and eliminating exclusions for pre-existing conditions and price discrimination against those who are sick, health reform will make it easier for small businesses to attract the best workers and easier for entrepreneurs to strike out on their own.
Reduces the Hidden Tax on Small Business Employees with Health Insurance
Status Quo: Hidden Tax Adds $1,000 to Every Premium. Currently, the cost of treating the uninsured adds a “hidden tax” of over $1,000 to every health care premium.
Solution: Reduce Hidden Tax by Dramatically Expanding Coverage. Health reform will significantly reduce this tax by covering an additional 32 million additional Americans by 2019.
Reduces Premiums in the Small Group Market.
Status Quo: Higher Premiums Mean Coverage Is Unaffordable for Small Businesses. In a recent national survey, nearly three-quarters of small businesses that did not offer benefits cited high premiums as the reason.
Solution: Health Reform Will Lower Costs, Making Coverage More Affordable. Taken together, the measures described above will significantly reduce premiums for small businesses. According to CBO, health reform will reduce the cost of a given plan in the small group market by 1-4 percent by 2016.

Six Ways Health Reform will Help Small Businesses | The White House

oh white house dot gov?

Americans for Tax Reform : Comprehensive List of Tax Hikes in Obamacare

 

[DontBeStupid]

A large portion of the U.S. doesn't want to pay any taxes at all. Would Romney sign that into law?

Again Romney did what his liberal state wanted, he should do what the majority of America wants.

And abolish all taxes? Hmm. Ok. But I don't see how that will reduce the deficit. Why do you think it will?

I'm quoting the three-lined conversation we just had to help you understand what you just said, Red.

As you can see, I said a large portion of Americans don't want any taxes at all, to which you responded that Romney should do what the majority wants.

So again I will ask, how will abolishing taxes lead to a lower deficit?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Small businesse will save money if they already have insurance. There are things to help the others- Dems aren't trying to lose votes here, Pubs are fear mongering ignorance.

The feds will pay 100% of states' medicaid costs for three years, then all the way down to 90%, for good.

Unions have a waiver on their Cadillac plans only until their contracts run out and are renegotiated.

Pub dupes clueless as always- change the channel. Read something. CBO cost estimates do not include savings that aren't proven, but will happen..

True dat. This entitlement is gonna be a money-printing machine!

"A machine that takes money away from the taxpayer" is what will happen in reality.