How much liberating is the United States for immigrants?

[Wiskers Von Pussyboots]

I put it in Constitution because the liberty and freedom is based on the rights of the constitution and the system etc. I didnt know where to put it else, but if a mod thinks it fits better somewhere else, then please move it.

I was thinking that the USA is historically a liberating space/country for new comers, but only for white caucasians. People who were religious minorities or escaped a famine or dictators and political terror fled to USA and became free. For example people who were persecuted by the catholic church in Europe. But that was only for white caucasians, for non-caucasians the USA never had the same liberty and freedom and rights.

Do you agree?

No.

The white race includes people of European descent, both northern and southern, the Middle East and Northern Africa. The other two races are black Africans and Asians. Most Native Americans are of Asian descent - so the New World truly is the land of immigrants.

It is true that many immigrants brought with them all the prejudices and bigotries experienced in their homeland...the effect of those prejudices on others were mitigated by the US Constitution and the rule of law...not perfect, no. It utterly failed our black African brothers and sisters until just about 60 years ago.

Northern Europeans were the predominant force in North America, while southern Europeans reigned in Mexico, Central and South America. The first question should be - for all it warts and blemishes why is the US so attractive to immigrants, and the rest of the Americas less so?

What did the Northern Europeans do differently with the land they populated compared to the Southern Europeans with the land they claimed? If China or India had first populated the land would the US exist?...would there be a constitution? Long before the US became a welfare state people yearning for freedom and opportunity made their way to these shores with no guarantee of food, clothing, shelter or health care.

What I find fascinating - so many people, still, are eager to leave their homeland, families and culture to be a part of something that still offers great opportunity. America is a very generous country.

I'll answer the first question for you - the difference is adherence to the rule of law and a blind (as opposed to social or corrupt) justice system. You cannot escape the oppression of a country that ignores the rule of law by demanding your 'adopted' country ignore the rule of law. btw - Bigotry is not the exclusive realm of the 'majority'.

Identity politics, putting people in neatly labeled boxes, is a tool of politicians who benefit by separating us into 'competing/envious' groups as they consolidate power. The promise of special benefits/privileges based on heritage or culture or skin color is what so many of our ancestors fled from. But yes, Europeans are the predominant species in the Americas, so? - and parts of the Americas have been far more successful than others.

But fact is historically freedom and citizenship rights (even some human rights in some cases) were reserved for white people or who was deemed white by the US supreme court and the US government. Also immigration was limited to whites. Now since a few decades its maybe different but not that long even in 1960 blacks were in the back seat of the bus and quiete segregated, even to this day there are justices who refuse to issue marriage license for interracial couples. Blacks were seen as a quarter of a human that was even written in law.

Indeed immigration was limited to European whites who share similar cultures steeped in modern ideas of freedom and liberty. Importing cultures who disagree with our ideas of freedom and liberty would be importing cancer. The most prevelant driver behind Democrat immigration policy is importing a steady amount of poor government dependent people who do not share our culture or admiration for our country in order to have a steady democrat dependent voting base satisfied with leaching off of the taxpayer. Our immigration policy should center around the question "how do importing these people benefit the American people?"

What do the top countries on this list have in common? They are the whitest most culturally hegemonic countries in the world.

World Happiness Report - Wikipedia

You want a fascinating and more modernly relevant statistic? Only a quarter of blacks are born in two parent households.

 

[Meane]

How much liberating do they want?
In Sweden some immigrants complained about the freedom being on the level of "chaotic". So how much do they want?