How much is a fair share?

[eflatminor]

I asked this question on another thread but here we go again.

Obama keep talking about rich not paying their "fair share" but I never heard what that "fair share" really is. There is an argument on both sides, but I would like hear your opinion, how much exactly is the "fair share" rich and/or others should pay? Give me exact number.

Give me what you think would be a fair percentage (of all US wealth) for the top 1% of this nation to own?

Is there any limit to the percentage of all existing wealth that you think would be fair?

Give me an exact number.

I like to put this in terms that regular joe's can understand. Let's say that your house has 12 rooms total. Your next door neighbor has 8 rooms total. Are you willing to let him have 2 of your rooms so that your housing is "fair". Come on, man up! Practice what you preach. Are you going to give him part of your house or not? What about groceries? If you have $200 worth and he has $100, are you going to let him have $50 worth out of your pantry? What about sex. If your wife gives it to you 4 times a week and he's only getting it 2 times, are you going to turn down 1 night so he can get more? These are real questions. You have more than your neighbor and he deserves his "fair share". These things are no different than having to give your "fair share" of your wealth. Think about it.

Well said! Here's a wonderful video of so called progressive students calling for redistribution of wealth...but NOT their grades:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p8DFUnYtPo]Petition to Redistribute GPA's - YouTube[/ame]

And another:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss]Petition to Redistribute GPA Scores - YouTube[/ame]

Frickin' hypocrites!

 

[boedicca]

I find the question of "what is a fair share to pay in taxes" to be the wrong one.

The real question is: what is the proper scope for government, and what is the best way to fund it?

"Fair Share" arguments tend to buffer maintaining a high level of GDP being targeted for government spending. The better public policy would be to improve efficiency and seek to find ways to lower this level.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Give me what you think would be a fair percentage (of all US wealth) for the top 1% of this nation to own?

Is there any limit to the percentage of all existing wealth that you think would be fair?

Give me an exact number.

I like to put this in terms that regular joe's can understand. Let's say that your house has 12 rooms total. Your next door neighbor has 8 rooms total. Are you willing to let him have 2 of your rooms so that your housing is "fair". Come on, man up! Practice what you preach. Are you going to give him part of your house or not? What about groceries? If you have $200 worth and he has $100, are you going to let him have $50 worth out of your pantry? What about sex. If your wife gives it to you 4 times a week and he's only getting it 2 times, are you going to turn down 1 night so he can get more? These are real questions. You have more than your neighbor and he deserves his "fair share". These things are no different than having to give your "fair share" of your wealth. Think about it.

Well said! Here's a wonderful video of so called progressive students calling for redistribution of wealth...but NOT their grades:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p8DFUnYtPo]Petition to Redistribute GPA's - YouTube[/ame]

And another:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyaJ2UI7Ss]Petition to Redistribute GPA Scores - YouTube[/ame]

Frickin' hypocrites!

 

[Ame®icano]

I already posted this chart...

The fact: The top income groups pay the highest effective rates.

Obama is not happy with what top income earners pay and demand that they should pay their "fair share" and most of the left keep repeating his words.

If the percentages they pay now are not fair what would be fair percentages?

It's simple question, and it seems left cant answer it.

OK, let's rephrase, if you can't state what is fair, can you look at the chart and explain how do you know what we have now is not fair?

 

[driveby]

I don't know what a fair share is, but it's not zero. Neither the rich nor the poor should pay zero taxes and both do now.

There is not a single "rich" income earner that is paying zero taxes.

Anyone who is earning 400K or more is paying 35% less deductions...

ANd those deductions are available to ALL income earners.

And at 35% they are still seeing record profits.

Maybe because they're leaving in record numbers?......

 

[Jarhead]

I asked this question on another thread but here we go again.

Obama keep talking about rich not paying their "fair share" but I never heard what that "fair share" really is. There is an argument on both sides, but I would like hear your opinion, how much exactly is the "fair share" rich and/or others should pay? Give me exact number.

Give me what you think would be a fair percentage (of all US wealth) for the top 1% of this nation to own?

Is there any limit to the percentage of all existing wealth that you think would be fair?

Give me an exact number.

I like to put this in terms that regular joe's can understand. Let's say that your house has 12 rooms total. Your next door neighbor has 8 rooms total. Are you willing to let him have 2 of your rooms so that your housing is "fair". Come on, man up! Practice what you preach. Are you going to give him part of your house or not? What about groceries? If you have $200 worth and he has $100, are you going to let him have $50 worth out of your pantry? What about sex. If your wife gives it to you 4 times a week and he's only getting it 2 times, are you going to turn down 1 night so he can get more? These are real questions. You have more than your neighbor and he deserves his "fair share". These things are no different than having to give your "fair share" of your wealth. Think about it.

how about sex?

My wife loves sex and I can happily say we make love no less than 5 times a week.

If a friend of mine has sex once a month becuase his wife doesnt enjoy it, should I feel obligated to offer up my wife to him 10 times a month so all can be fair?

 

[Contumacious]

> How much is a fair share?.

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

 

[Truthseeker420]

> How much is a fair share?.

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

 

[Jarhead]

you know..those GPA videos were intertesting....

Look at this scenario...

Student X has a 4.0 His parents paid for school, he has joined no clubs; no extra curricular activities....he dedicates all of his time to his schoolwork...extra help sessions and study groups.....and after 120 credits he has a 4.0

Student Y has a 2.8. He is putting himself through school by working 30 hours a week. He attends all of his classes and goes to as manyt study groups as he can.....but becuase he is forced to work to pay for school, food and rent, he can not attend ALL of the study groups and extra help sessions and his grades reflect it.

Should the school redistribute the GPA's?

Afterall, the both work hard and dedicate as much time as possible to their studies...but one is more "disadvantaged" than the other.

And if you notice...the students surveyed kept on saying "it is different with money" but no one would say how it is different.

 

[Flopper]

I don't know what a fair share is, but it's not zero. Neither the rich nor the poor should pay zero taxes and both do now.

Please point to a case in which a person making enough income in a given year to be considered rich pays no income tax.

Anyone who draws all their income from municipal bonds can escape all federal and state income tax. This is just starters. There are so many loopholes in the tax laws, it's amazing the government collects as much taxes as it does.

With all the deductions, exemptions and credits 69% of the filers with less than 50,000 in income pay nothing.

 

[Jarhead]

> How much is a fair share?.

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

Many like to say that but no one is able to back it up.
Exactly how are they soaking the producers?

 

[yidnar]

"Fair" would be everyone paying a fixed percentage of their income.
But that's too obvious.
We have "progressive" taxation for the same reason we have "progressive" politiicians.
It is way too tempting for pols to use the tax code to punish and reward others. And that's what's happened.

a flat tax would destroy the socialist income redistribution dreams of the left !! if republicans could implement a flax tax into law the left would be destroyed !!

 

[Ame®icano]

> How much is a fair share?.

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

Enough with the slogans.

Why don't you try to answer the question.

 

[Jarhead]

I don't know what a fair share is, but it's not zero. Neither the rich nor the poor should pay zero taxes and both do now.

Please point to a case in which a person making enough income in a given year to be considered rich pays no income tax.

Anyone who draws all their income from municipal bonds can escape all federal and state income tax. This is just starters. There are so many loopholes in the tax laws, it's amazing the government collects as much taxes as it does.

With all the deductions, exemptions and credits 69% of the filers with less than 50,000 in income pay nothing.

drawing from Munis is not "earned income"..

But the income that was earned so one can invest in Munis WAS erned income and already taxed at 35%

 

[kwc57]

> How much is a fair share?.

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

No one is seriously this stoopid are they? Without said "taker", would the producer have a job? No. Ever hear of killing the goose that lays the golden egg. Why do all of you socialists want to bite the hand that feeds you?

 

[Truthseeker420]

The "fair share" is a fascist parasitic scam designed to soak the producers.

.

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

Enough with the slogans.

Why don't you try to answer the question.

I did in previous posts. I would be okay with a flat % tax on personal income if other taxes on working people were dropped. Corporationn taxes are a diferent story.

 

[Flopper]

"Fair" would be everyone paying a fixed percentage of their income.
But that's too obvious.
We have "progressive" taxation for the same reason we have "progressive" politiicians.
It is way too tempting for pols to use the tax code to punish and reward others. And that's what's happened.

a flat tax would destroy the socialist income redistribution dreams of the left !! if republicans could implement a flax tax into law the left would be destroyed !!

So would low income earners. A true flat is the most unfair tax of all. The percentage is the same for everyone the burden certainly is not. A 10% flat on someone making only $10,000 would be devastating. For some one making a 100,000 it would be a burden. For someone making 10 million a year it would an inconvenience.

 

[kwc57]

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

Enough with the slogans.

Why don't you try to answer the question.

I did in previous posts. I would be okay with a flat % tax on personal income if other taxes on working people were dropped. Corporationn taxes are a diferent story.

Please tell me that you are smart enough to understand that any additional tax burden put on a corporation will be passed on to their customers in higher prices? Please?

 

[Ame®icano]

The takers(corporations) are soking the producers(workers) and have been since Reaganomics.

Enough with the slogans.

Why don't you try to answer the question.

I did in previous posts. I would be okay with a flat % tax on personal income if other taxes on working people were dropped. Corporationn taxes are a diferent story.

Flat tax is a flat tax. Everyone pays the same tax percentage, period.

Now, what other taxes are you talking about?

 

[eflatminor]

Sure, anyone is capable of an ad hominem attack but the way you refuted the idea of redistributing grades like we do wealth...why that was just brilliant. You were President of your high school debating team, weren't you?

Not a Fox News viewer by the way, but don't let that stop you.