How much $$ aid does Israel get each year from the United States taxpayers??

"Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy.

Ignorant statement. Israel is a $200 billion ecovomy, one of the wealthiest countries based on per capita income and one of the fastest-growing economies based on GDP.

Thus, you're an ass.

Actually....you're an ass as well..or maybe a laughable banty rooster. The economic truth lies somewhere between the two extremes.

I'm not sure if Israel is one of the "wealthiest countries based on per capita income" .... according to the CIA Factbook, Israel ranks 48 in GDP--per capita....even if you just look at the Middle East...Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Bahrain rank higher than Israel.

Israel DOES have one of the highest average living standards in the Middle East, HOWEVER - a large portion of the population, mostly Palestinians and immigrants, do not benefit from that wealth. The cost of living in Israel is very high, and for many wages barely meet basic living expenses. A large portion of the population lives under very modest conditions, often with aid from the government.

According to the CIA Factbook:

Israel has a technologically advanced market economy. It depends on imports of crude oil, grains, raw materials, and military equipment. Despite limited natural resources, Israel has intensively developed its agricultural and industrial sectors over the past 20 years. Cut diamonds, high-technology equipment, and agricultural products (fruits and vegetables) are the leading exports.

Israel usually posts sizable trade deficits, which are covered by large transfer payments from abroad and by foreign loans. Roughly half of the government's external debt is owed to the US, its major source of economic and military aid. Israel's GDP, after contracting slightly in 2001 and 2002 due to the Palestinian conflict and troubles in the high-technology sector, grew about 5% per year from 2003-07. The global financial crisis of 2008-09 spurred a brief recession in Israel, but the country entered the crisis with solid fundamentals - following years of prudent fiscal policy and a series of liberalizing reforms - and a resilient banking sector, and the economy has rebounded quickly. Following GDP growth of 4% in 2008, Israel's GDP contracted 0.3% in 2009 but is expected to expand in 2010. The global economic downturn affected Israel's economy primarily through reduced demand for Israel's exports - which account for about 45% of the country's GDP - in the United States and EU, Israel's top trading partners.

The idiot marc39, which is his perverted online name, is a mentally deranged nutcase. This creature is a baby raper who should be put out of his misery by the State in order to protect all of our children. ~BH
 
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"Israel is not economically self-sufficient, and relies on foreign assistance and borrowing to maintain its economy.

Ignorant statement. Israel is a $200 billion ecovomy, one of the wealthiest countries based on per capita income and one of the fastest-growing economies based on GDP.

All very true.

So why are we sending $3 billion in aid to Israel every year then? That's $10 for every man woman and child in America, every year. For a family of four, that's $1200 over a decade. Why are we sending Israel this money when Israel, as you rightly pointed out, is rich?

It's much, much more than that my friend Toro. Just take into the fact that they lend this money back to the stupid American Sheople and rape them twice and many more times over. People like Marc39 and his bath house boyfriend The traitor CMike, are gonna feel the sword one day in the future in this Country when all the good hearted Americans who have supported them wake up and realize it's kill or be killed. ~BH

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Super mooch!

You are the mooch, you lazy bum. You should be deported, loser.

Since 1967, Israel has given to the Pentagon Soviet military equipment captured in conflicts with Soviet-supported Arab countries, providing important data. Israel gave the US a full squadron of MiG-21s which was called the “Top Gun” squadron and used by the U.S. Air Force and Navy for training purposes.

In 1970, Israel forced the withdrawal of the Syrian army from US-ally Jordan while the U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, helping to prevent the collapse of a pro-American government and the installation of a pro-Soviet regime.

In the 1973 War, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israel shared captured Soviet equipment with the US. Israel emerged the one reliable ally where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be pre-positioned and where the U.S. has friendly port facilities, saving the US billions of dollars.

In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft systems in Lebanon that were considered impenetrable by American weapons. Israel shared with the US insights from the conflict, estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

Senator Daniel Inouye has stated that Israeli data on the Soviet military has saved the U.S. billions of dollars and that the contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America exceeds information provided by all NATO countries combined.

In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, stalling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear capabilities and allowing the U.S. to engage in conventional warfare with Iraq.

Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

In the Gulf War, Israel provided the US with key intelligence, air cover for military cargo and had IDF stationed in the Iraqi desert to rescue downed American pilots.

The IDF was the sole military force in the region that could successfully challenge the Iraqi army. That fact, which Saddam Hussein understood, was a deterrent to further Iraqi aggression.

The US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence, has stated that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He said that between 1974 and
1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants, but, that in the same timeframe Israel provided the U.S. with $50-$80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings and Soviet weapons systems given to the U.S.

Israel shares with the US important experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Most of the US military aid to Israel must be spent in the United States, which benefits US military contractors.

In contrast to US commitments to Korea, Japan, Germany and numerous other countries in which the US has over 100 military bases, the US has no military bases in Israel.

Former Secretary of State and NATO forces Commander Alexander Haig has said that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is "the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security"

In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Israel provided assistance to the relief efforts. An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs and other medical supplies.

In addition to government aid, Israeli non-profit organizations assisted in the relief efforts. Magen David Adom (Israel's national emergency medical, disaster, ambulance and blood bank service) began the "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance. IsraAid, the coordinating body of Israeli non-profits organizations involved in relief work, sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists and experienced search-and-rescue divers.

Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel.

When terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998, Israel immediately dispatched search and rescue teams to assist in saving the victims trapped under the rubble. The IDF's Home Front Command Rescue Unit was the first delegation to arrive from abroad, and was accompanied by military and civilian doctors, rescue dogs and high-tech rescue equipment. The Israeli team led the rescue operation in Nairobi, Kenya and was able to pull three survivors from the building, perform life-saving operations and provide medical care to the victims of the bombing.

And on top of that, G-d promises to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse her (paraphrased from Psalm 122:6)
 
And on top of that, G-d promises to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse her (paraphrased from Psalm 122:6)

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Psalms 122:6 - "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee." (KJV)

The bless/curse reference is often repeated but it is a misquote of Genesis 12:3, which is actually addressed to Ibrahim (not Israel): "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." (KJV)
 
And on top of that, G-d promises to bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse her (paraphrased from Psalm 122:6)

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Psalms 122:6 - "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee." (KJV)

The bless/curse reference is often repeated but it is a misquote of Genesis 12:3, which is actually addressed to Ibrahim (not Israel): "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." (KJV)

Ibrahim as the arabic name for Avraham which is the common ancestor of not only jews and arabs, but also of the Midianites and Edomites (actually, according to genesis, he spoke to Avram. the H was only added later - if i'm not mistaking after the Covenant of Pieces - to symbolise his covenant with god). So yes, you could say the promise was made to Israel.
 
Ibrahim as the arabic name for Avraham which is the common ancestor of not only jews and arabs, but also of the Midianites and Edomites (actually, according to genesis, he spoke to Avram. the H was only added later - if i'm not mistaking after the Covenant of Pieces - to symbolise his covenant with god). So yes, you could say the promise was made to Israel.

So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)
 
Ibrahim as the arabic name for Avraham which is the common ancestor of not only jews and arabs, but also of the Midianites and Edomites (actually, according to genesis, he spoke to Avram. the H was only added later - if i'm not mistaking after the Covenant of Pieces - to symbolise his covenant with god). So yes, you could say the promise was made to Israel.

So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)

Palestinians are terrorists, like most other Arabs and Muslims, Habib. Now, ride off on your camel, loser.
 
Palestinians are terrorists, like most other Arabs and Muslims, Habib. Now, ride off on your camel, loser.

Please continue to exhibit the true character of the Zionist mentality.

The Zionist mentality is education, industriousness and success.
The Islamo mentality is ignorance, illiteracy, lazyness and failure.
 
Ibrahim as the arabic name for Avraham which is the common ancestor of not only jews and arabs, but also of the Midianites and Edomites (actually, according to genesis, he spoke to Avram. the H was only added later - if i'm not mistaking after the Covenant of Pieces - to symbolise his covenant with god). So yes, you could say the promise was made to Israel.

So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)

Not for you to say.
 
Ibrahim as the arabic name for Avraham which is the common ancestor of not only jews and arabs, but also of the Midianites and Edomites (actually, according to genesis, he spoke to Avram. the H was only added later - if i'm not mistaking after the Covenant of Pieces - to symbolise his covenant with god). So yes, you could say the promise was made to Israel.

So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)

Not for you to say.

Not just me...

True Torah Jews Against Zionism
Jews Not Zionists
Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism
Israel Versus Judaism
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network
 
So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)

Not for you to say.

Not just me...

True Torah Jews Against Zionism
Jews Not Zionists
Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism
Israel Versus Judaism
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network

Total membership: 5 Jews. Far fewer than the number of Muslims who have converted out of the cult of jihad.
 
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So the blessing would apply to all of Ibrahim's descendants, which include Arabs - so of course the blessing includes Palestinians as well.

(And despite many people's confusion of the concepts, the modern State of Israel is not the same thing as the Israel (Jacob) mentioned in the Bible.)

Not for you to say.

Not just me...

True Torah Jews Against Zionism
Jews Not Zionists
Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism
Israel Versus Judaism
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network

All of those sites can be traced to one, group - Neturei Karta, which are a miniscule minoirity in world Jewry. These are the same types that participated in Iran's holocaust denial conference. These people are your go-to guys..? i can relax...
 

Orthodox Jews are already a small minority within "world Jewry." So obviously, Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionist based on religious principles will be a minority. (There are far more secular Jews opposed to Zionism for other reasons - but we were discussing religious interpretation of Biblical passages.)

And the Satmar Hasidim are certainly not the same thing as Neturei Karta (which are mostly non-Hasidic.) Both groups wear similar dress, both groups are anti-Zionist, but they have many differences.

These are the same types that participated in Iran's holocaust denial conference. These people are your go-to guys..? i can relax...

This is what Neturei Karta's Yisroel Dovid Weiss (whose grandparents died at Auschwitz) in fact had to say at the International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust (the actual title of the conference) in Tehran:

The fact is that there were millions and millions of Jewish people living in Europe before World War II. Poland, the statistics say around 3 million, and Hungary there was over half a million, maybe close to a million and you go through Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, Romania and Ukraine, they were all full of Jewish people, full of Jewish communities and today they don’t exist. And almost nobody tries to refute that. It would be ridiculous to refute it because the fact is, the Jewish people were there and now they are not there.

Linkie:
Rabbi Yisroel D. Weiss - Speech Delivered at Holocaust Conference

Doesn't sound like Holocaust denial to me.

Your turn.
 

Orthodox Jews are already a small minority within "world Jewry." So obviously, Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionist based on religious principles will be a minority. (There are far more secular Jews opposed to Zionism for other reasons - but we were discussing religious interpretation of Biblical passages.)

And the Satmar Hasidim are certainly not the same thing as Neturei Karta (which are mostly non-Hasidic.) Both groups wear similar dress, both groups are anti-Zionist, but they have many differences.

These are the same types that participated in Iran's holocaust denial conference. These people are your go-to guys..? i can relax...

This is what Neturei Karta's Yisroel Dovid Weiss (whose grandparents died at Auschwitz) in fact had to say at the International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust (the actual title of the conference) in Tehran:

The fact is that there were millions and millions of Jewish people living in Europe before World War II. Poland, the statistics say around 3 million, and Hungary there was over half a million, maybe close to a million and you go through Slovakia, Czechoslovakia, Romania and Ukraine, they were all full of Jewish people, full of Jewish communities and today they don’t exist. And almost nobody tries to refute that. It would be ridiculous to refute it because the fact is, the Jewish people were there and now they are not there.

Linkie:
Rabbi Yisroel D. Weiss - Speech Delivered at Holocaust Conference

Doesn't sound like Holocaust denial to me.

Your turn.

Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination, which is the foundation of the UN Charter for all peoples.

Those misguided Jews and non-Jews opposed to Zionism are severely misguided and uninformed on the matter.
 
...says the racist jew convinced in the righteousness of his own hatred...


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