Just a comment poll here. How many of you got your wealth or success by depending on or going mostly through the government? Now, this doesn't count simple protection we enjoy from cops and military while pursuing our dreams. Thats a given. I came through a public high school, private college. So in part, got some education through public high school. All the rest in the private sector. Worked a LOT of jobs I hated. God I hated some of them jobs. Bagged groceries. Stocked shelves. Daycare. Laid bricks a while. Worked a go-cart track a few summers. And spent a few years in a restaurant while finishing college. But I am proud that my modest, middle class life came from a lower class upbringing, and did it with as little government intervention or help as possible. Any more stories to share?