How many of you are Pro-Death Penalty but Against Abortion?

[random3434]

Aren't they both killing a human?

I'd like your thoughts on this, it's something I've always wondered how people think about the two.

 

[FuelRod]

The death penalty is a punishment. Something you learn from a very young age...cause and effect.

Abortion is a killing of convenience.

 

[Ravi]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

 

[xsited1]

How can the death penalty be murder?

 

[FuelRod]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

Just cleaning the scum out of the gene pool. Sound economics as well if practiced correctly vs. keeping people in prison for 50+ years.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

I'm neither pro, or con on either.

However, murder is the unlawful killing of another human being with "malice aforethought", and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide.

Homicide refers to the act of a human killing another human. Murder, for example, is a type of homicide. It can also describe a person who has committed such an act, though this use is rare in modern English. Homicide is not always a punishable act under the criminal law, and is different than a murder from such formal legal point of view.

Both are homicide, and both are legal homicide. Neither is "murder." You present a false dichotomy and a logical fallacy.

 

[Ravi]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

Just cleaning the scum out of the gene pool. Sound economics as well if practiced correctly vs. keeping people in prison for 50+ years.

Actually, it is big government at its finest.

 

[random3434]

How can the death penalty be murder?

Well, killing someone, be it legal or not, is murder, isn't it?

Or should I have called it something else?



Maybe I used the wrong wording?

How about "putting to death" someone?

Be it a baby in the womb, or someone that commited a crime.

Is one right, and one wrong? Or both wrong?


thanks, I changed my wording on the OP.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Aren't they both murder?

I'd like your thoughts on this, it's something I've always wondered how people think about the two.

I am against abortion and the death penalty except in extreme circumstances

Abortion: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother
DeathPenalty: Solid, irrefutable proof, of heinous crimes of murder.

 

[FuelRod]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

Just cleaning the scum out of the gene pool. Sound economics as well if practiced correctly vs. keeping people in prison for 50+ years.

Actually, it is big government at its finest.

Not if you let me do it

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

im the lone yes vote

 

[R.D.]

Technically neither is murder.

Both are killing. One kills an innocent the other kills a legally tried, convicted and apealed a bazillion times adult

 

[xsited1]

How can the death penalty be murder?

Well, killing someone, be it legal or not, is murder, isn't it?

Or should I have called it something else?



Maybe I used the wrong wording?

How about "putting to death" someone?

Be it a baby in the womb, or someone that commited a crime.

Is one right, and one wrong? Or both wrong?

No, killing someone is not always murder. If I'm defending my family against a violent intruder and I'm forced to kill him, that's not murder. If I decide to shoot someone on the street because I want their wallet, that's murder. Even the Bible distinguishes between this. In the Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill," it really translates to "Thou Shalt Not Murder." And the death penalty is punishment usually for a heinous crime.

I was talking to my wife the other night about abortion and was surprised to find out that she considers it murder even though she is a liberal like yourself. She said she changed her mind years ago after seeing numerous ultrasounds of our kids. That said, she's torn on the idea of allowing the legislators make it illegal again.

 

[xsited1]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

Just cleaning the scum out of the gene pool. Sound economics as well if practiced correctly vs. keeping people in prison for 50+ years.

Actually, it is big government at its finest.

How is the death penalty 'big government at its finest'?

 

[AllieBaba]

Death penalty: Killing people to teach them that killing is wrong.

Except you're wrong. It's not killing people to teach them that it's wrong. It's killing them to remove a danger to society, and to SCARE people out of killing.

Anyway, I'm anti-death penalty, and anti-abortion.

Kaching!

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Oh I have a friend? Who else voted yes?

 

[R.D.]

oh i have a friend? Who else voted yes?

Me

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

oh i have a friend? Who else voted yes?

Me

I have a friend and your a girl..........oh wait is this EZ's thread



no im not EZ, cut it out!

EDIT: Sorry inside joke.....im just happy that someone besides me appears consistant in their values.

 

[Nosmo King]

How can the death penalty be murder?

When an innocent gets executed.

 

[Big Fitz]

Aren't they both killing a human?

I'd like your thoughts on this, it's something I've always wondered how people think about the two.

A question that needs to be asked.

If the death penalty is for a committed crime, what crime did a baby commit before it was born?