How many here believe Jesus rose from the dead after his crucifixion

How many here believe Jesus rose from the dead to eternal life

  • Yes

    Votes: 44 65.7%
  • No

    Votes: 23 34.3%

  • Total voters
    67
I'd say the event is more spiritual and not so much a physical literal event.
Had Jesus literally come back, then why wouldn't his friends recognize him?
I believe he appeared to people spiritually and he TRANSCENDED physical death.
His physical body may have dematerialized, but when he appeared to people
it was spiritual and no longer dependent on his physical body.

He is also supposedly to have appeared to the Native Americans
in the form of the Great Manito, so his ascension transcends time and space.

Jesus is the spirit of Eternal Justice, so that is much bigger than human form.
The whole point is for humanity to receive the spirit of
Restorative Justice
Justice with Mercy
Peace and Justice
which are secular names of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

That is the meaning and it is much greater than the physical manifestations
that follow from the spiritual process of realizing and embodying "peace and justice"
on a universal level that saves all humanity from suffering and strife.

Thank you for asking
take care and enjoy a
happy season of rebirth and renewal
which the Resurrection represents:
the end of the old ways that lead to death,
and birth of the new ways that bring new life
 
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Once again the death & resurrection scene is plagiarized:
Now sitting in the British
Museum a 700bc or 900bc tablet
in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.
 
I have doubts he died on the cross

Really? Why?


Most take days on the cross to die

Jesus was up their four hours

Medicine were use on him when laying him in the crypt/cave

Too many stories of him beyond the middle east after his death.
Are you familiar with the 'Passion'? I am not speaking of the movie, but of what they did to Christ before he was crucified.

By the time they put Him upon the cross, he was nearly dead. The spear and the cross were the final blows.
 
I have doubts he died on the cross

Really? Why?


Most take days on the cross to die

Jesus was up their four hours

Medicine were use on him when laying him in the crypt/cave

Too many stories of him beyond the middle east after his death.

Did you read "The Jesus Scroll" by Donovan Joyce?

That was an eye-opener around 1972.


Similar stories have been used in a number of books. Sadly there is too much mystery and too little fact as well and a lot of forgeries

I like reading but I don't take as gospel what all the books say.

Some have interesting theories and other too far fetched.
 
Once again the death & resurrection scene is plagiarized:
Now sitting in the British
Museum a 700bc or 900bc tablet
in which the Babylonian myth of Bel (Baal in
Hebrew) is described in a passion play in which:
(1) Bel is taken prisoner;
(2) Bel is tried in a great hall;
(3) Bel is smitten;
(4) Bel is led away to the Mount (a sacred grove on a
hilltop);
(5) with Bel are taken two malefactors, one of whom is
released;
(6) After Bel has gone to the Mount and is executed,
the city breaks into tumult;
(7) Bel's clothes are carried away;
(8.) Bel goes down into the Mount and disappears from
life;
(9) weeping women seek Bel at the Tomb;
(10) Bel is brought back to life.

Yeah the whole Jesus myth is like a Pat Boone record --- a cover version of somebody else's older tune.
 
I have doubts he died on the cross

Really? Why?


Most take days on the cross to die

Jesus was up their four hours

Medicine were use on him when laying him in the crypt/cave

Too many stories of him beyond the middle east after his death.

Well, if He was not dead, He was after the Roman soldier speared Him through the side into the heart, to make sure He was dead, as they had orders to break the thighs so that the men crucified would die before start of Passover which began at Sundown.

The Romans had to make sure or they would be guilty of disobeying their orders, which carried very harsh punishments for the Roman soldiers.
 
I'd say the event is more spiritual and not so much a physical literal event.
Then it did not really happen, if so.

All of the apostles suffered horrendous deaths (except John) for what you think was a delusion?

I dont think that fishermen and the other tradesmen were as given to empty headed wishful thinking.

They saw what they said they saw and heard what they said they heard and that is why they went from a bunch of cowards hiding in secret to bold men who challenged everyone on Pentecost Sunday.
 
I have doubts he died on the cross

Really? Why?


Most take days on the cross to die

Jesus was up their four hours

Medicine were use on him when laying him in the crypt/cave

Too many stories of him beyond the middle east after his death.
Are you familiar with the 'Passion'? I am not speaking of the movie, but of what they did to Christ before he was crucified.

By the time they put Him upon the cross, he was nearly dead. The spear and the cross were the final blows.

Ummm the one sentenced on Passover was "stoned & hanged" around 85bc and not speared. There is a problem when people act as if the Jesus story is real based on a SINGULAR figure. Jesus is an image of a man based on many christs and mythologies in order to mask Baal worship with a compiled cultures image (one world religion).

Sources:This figure (Yeshu)was the one sent to death on Passover (per John 18-19 and Mark 14-15)
was stoned (slew) and hanged around 85bc.
Source: Acts 5:30 , Acts 10:39, Acts 13:29 , 1 Peter 2:24, Galatians 3:13.
 
Similar stories have been used in a number of books. Sadly there is too much mystery and too little fact as well and a lot of forgeries

I like reading but I don't take as gospel what all the books say.

Some have interesting theories and other too far fetched.
The Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ is the best documented single event in the entire ancient world history.

Of course you have common elements with other stories back in that time, but who doesnt?

How many stories do we have of prisoners escaping prison? And how many common elements between them all?

Fake body in the cell, bribed prison guards, underground tunnels, they escape to some remote area where they finally get found and brought back, followed by idiot women who beg for the mens lives because they are in love with a prisoner.

That does not mean that they are not true.
 

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