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"What the Experts are Not Telling About Renewable Green Energy"

Green energy is also unlikely to reduce our dependence on foreign imports. Since renewable energy sources are unreliable, we need a way to store this collected energy, meaning batteries. Who dominates the market for elements needed to make these batteries? (china).
http://www.usmessageboard.com/Green...ements needed to make these batteries? China.

Another point this author claims is that energy provided by one oil well is the equivalent of 20 large windmills on a windmill farm. Wind farms are considered visual pollution by some.

Some say there is more oil and natural gas in the Rocky Mountains than in the entire Middle East. But objections to drilling stifle its exploitation. Any thoughts?
 
"What the Experts are Not Telling About Renewable Green Energy"

Green energy is also unlikely to reduce our dependence on foreign imports. Since renewable energy sources are unreliable, we need a way to store this collected energy, meaning batteries. Who dominates the market for elements needed to make these batteries? (china).
http://www.usmessageboard.com/Green...ements needed to make these batteries? China.

Another point this author claims is that energy provided by one oil well is the equivalent of 20 large windmills on a windmill farm. Wind farms are considered visual pollution by some.

Some say there is more oil and natural gas in the Rocky Mountains than in the entire Middle East. But objections to drilling stifle its exploitation. Any thoughts?

I always wondered why they can't make the blades out of a clear plastic of some sort.
 
"What the Experts are Not Telling About Renewable Green Energy"

Green energy is also unlikely to reduce our dependence on foreign imports. Since renewable energy sources are unreliable, we need a way to store this collected energy, meaning batteries. Who dominates the market for elements needed to make these batteries? (china).

Another point this author claims is that energy provided by one oil well is the equivalent of 20 large windmills on a windmill farm. Wind farms are considered visual pollution by some.

Some say there is more oil and natural gas in the Rocky Mountains than in the entire Middle East. But objections to drilling stifle its exploitation. Any thoughts?

I always wondered why they can't make the blades out of a clear plastic of some sort.

Plastic is a by-product of evil oil.
 
"What the Experts are Not Telling About Renewable Green Energy"



Another point this author claims is that energy provided by one oil well is the equivalent of 20 large windmills on a windmill farm. Wind farms are considered visual pollution by some.

Some say there is more oil and natural gas in the Rocky Mountains than in the entire Middle East. But objections to drilling stifle its exploitation. Any thoughts?

I always wondered why they can't make the blades out of a clear plastic of some sort.

Plastic is a by-product of evil oil.

Yes. Oil isn't evil???? We just are going to eventually run out of it so we need to start developing other power sources. Nuclear is ready now. I can't understand why we aren't building 50 of these plants nationwide.

The demand for power is only going to go up.
 
Good article, only to be discredited because of the source.

Let the countdown begin...

Christ, you read it. Then discredit this...

In fact, you might be interested to know that in our Outlook for Energy, we actually predict that hybrids and other advanced vehicles will account for nearly 50 percent of the vehicles on the road in 2040, compared to just 1 percent today.

err did I misread your post? lol
 
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Zero usually. Power plants are usually oil, coal or natural gas.

We need nuke power.
Well, thattruly is a good idea. However, it has drawbacks: if we build more nuclear plants, they need to be surrounded by or at least near to military bases in order to reduce the threat of terrorists hanging around plants relegated to remote badlands with insufficient terrorist-monitoring abilities. Also, some of the states who want nuclear power want nothing to do with storage of nuclear waste. Who do we expect to store radioactive nuke waste that has a half life in the millions of years?

Organizers shut down a plant that had not opened yet in the State of Washington because of the waste disposal issue. It cost consumers 30 million in already-spent construction costs.

Oregon and many watered states use natural water power to generate electricity. This is my favorite, although precautions are needed to protect fish and other resources in the biological ecosystem. Some states are too flat or too dry for water power, so unfortunately, that makes it impractical there.

It's complex.
 
I always wondered why they can't make the blades out of a clear plastic of some sort.

Plastic is a by-product of evil oil.

Yes. Oil isn't evil???? We just are going to eventually run out of it so we need to start developing other power sources. Nuclear is ready now. I can't understand why we aren't building 50 of these plants nationwide.

The demand for power is only going to go up.

Not running out any time soon. the earth manufactures it all the time. When the core of the Earth cools down? Then you can make that claim. That isn't going to happen anytime soon.

The United States has more reserves than you think.
 
Zero usually. Power plants are usually oil, coal or natural gas.

We need nuke power.
Well, thattruly is a good idea. However, it has drawbacks: if we build more nuclear plants, they need to be surrounded by or at least near to military bases in order to reduce the threat of terrorists hanging around plants relegated to remote badlands with insufficient terrorist-monitoring abilities. Also, some of the states who want nuclear power want nothing to do with storage of nuclear waste. Who do we expect to store radioactive nuke waste that has a half life in the millions of years?

Organizers shut down a plant that had not opened yet in the State of Washington because of the waste disposal issue. It cost consumers 30 million in already-spent construction costs.

Oregon and many watered states use natural water power to generate electricity. This is my favorite, although precautions are needed to protect fish and other resources in the biological ecosystem. Some states are too flat or too dry for water power, so unfortunately, that makes it impractical there.

It's complex.

The US Navy has shown that it manages nuclear power almost perfectly. I wouldn't be opposed to simply turning the keys to every plant in existence along with the ones we're going to need to build over to the Navy. Not every solution needs to come from private enterprise.

Build them where ever....they will always be a target for terrorism. Fort Knox would not be secure enough.

Just out of curiosity and I know the answer is probably no; would it be possible to just use an existing nuclear powered vessel to add power to the grid? As one of these cruisers goes out of commission; can we dock it, lets say in Jacksonville or Portland, OR and hook up some cables more or less?

Just a thought.
 
Good article, only to be discredited because of the source.

Let the countdown begin...
I can appreciate you political aversity to companies belittled by unfortunate events, especially if you participated in a bird cleanup from a spill. However, more damage is done to the environment by methane escaping for reasons not well understood by most of us, and even experts can't say why the earth does this. Fortunately, when oil escapes out at sea, we're blissfully ignorant because no one is there to light a match, and it disperses itself over time, although dead creatures and birds trapped by natural poison fissures are often located on shorelines served by currents passing the area.

Who knows more about energy than those who study it and observe it on a day-to-day basis? Do we discredit those who report their facts just because they are a free enterprise, or do we scientifically seek to prove or disprove claims? That's where you're wise to look twice, but discrediting people who love the earth and try to safely extract its treasures to benefit the energy needs of mankind have lit up university libraries and provided energy for life sustainment during surgical procedures that saved a loved one's life--priceless. There are two sides of the energy coin. A careful energy company will ensure that the first to get power back is the large hospitals whom they often benefit with donations of power equipment to carry them through any emergency.

We just take that for granted here or it never gets called to our attention in America.

But just go to a third world country beset by terrorist outages, and tell me, was someone watching over the hospitals in the area to save victims' lives when the hospital gets flooded with war victims?

Trust me, American energy companies' gifts to their communities might surprise you if you ever made it a point to research these issues. Please don't judge them because one of their transportation partner's ship captains sunk his oil tanker carrying their product.

We don't hang a man because someone else hit him on the thumb with a hammer and it hurt him. Why would we do such a thing to an energy company? So our guy gets more votes in an election than the other guy? Not a stellar reason to ignore someone who knows practical information that benefits us and publishes it.
 
Zero usually. Power plants are usually oil, coal or natural gas.

We need nuke power.
Well, thattruly is a good idea. However, it has drawbacks: if we build more nuclear plants, they need to be surrounded by or at least near to military bases in order to reduce the threat of terrorists hanging around plants relegated to remote badlands with insufficient terrorist-monitoring abilities. Also, some of the states who want nuclear power want nothing to do with storage of nuclear waste. Who do we expect to store radioactive nuke waste that has a half life in the millions of years?

Organizers shut down a plant that had not opened yet in the State of Washington because of the waste disposal issue. It cost consumers 30 million in already-spent construction costs.

Oregon and many watered states use natural water power to generate electricity. This is my favorite, although precautions are needed to protect fish and other resources in the biological ecosystem. Some states are too flat or too dry for water power, so unfortunately, that makes it impractical there.

It's complex.

Tidal power is a fascinating aspect too of 'hydroelectric' generation, and you're correct. it can get messy as to the ecosystem.
 
Zero usually. Power plants are usually oil, coal or natural gas.

We need nuke power.
Well, thattruly is a good idea. However, it has drawbacks: if we build more nuclear plants, they need to be surrounded by or at least near to military bases in order to reduce the threat of terrorists hanging around plants relegated to remote badlands with insufficient terrorist-monitoring abilities. Also, some of the states who want nuclear power want nothing to do with storage of nuclear waste. Who do we expect to store radioactive nuke waste that has a half life in the millions of years?

Organizers shut down a plant that had not opened yet in the State of Washington because of the waste disposal issue. It cost consumers 30 million in already-spent construction costs.

Oregon and many watered states use natural water power to generate electricity. This is my favorite, although precautions are needed to protect fish and other resources in the biological ecosystem. Some states are too flat or too dry for water power, so unfortunately, that makes it impractical there.

It's complex.

The US Navy has shown that it manages nuclear power almost perfectly. I wouldn't be opposed to simply turning the keys to every plant in existence along with the ones we're going to need to build over to the Navy. Not every solution needs to come from private enterprise.

Build them where ever....they will always be a target for terrorism. Fort Knox would not be secure enough.

Just out of curiosity and I know the answer is probably no; would it be possible to just use an existing nuclear powered vessel to add power to the grid? As one of these cruisers goes out of commission; can we dock it, lets say in Jacksonville or Portland, OR and hook up some cables more or less?

Just a thought.
Nice theory so long as unions don't take over the Navy.

In the real energy world, trying to can an incompetent union employee who refuses to take a different job when the one he has could kill 30 people in one moment of inattention for which he is famous, and almost did the deed, is next to impossible. And the person who fires him is ostracized for life by union personnel, although they know from personal experience one wrong touch of a button can kill another man or a group of men or a room full of working men. But because management is not to be trusted, they cling to the union that obfuscates the facts in order to vilify management for cash rewards. They know what they're doing is wrong, but they do it for financial gain.

If you changed an incompetent guy's job in the Navy and he resisted for any reason, he'd be the inmate in a brig in a new york minute with everyone on board agreeing he had it coming.

This is not a perfect world we live in in the presence of danger, but sometimes someone's idea of his make-a-wish job is something he will never be qualified to do based on his deficiencies but not known until he does actually almost does someone else in, or his service is filled with multiple discrepancies that are a management and unknown numbers of fellow worker's nightmare due to the danger such a person places them in by showing up to work, and going into play-computer games mode while someone's life hangs in the balance if he forgets to throw a safety switch when he is scheduled to, or he's winning an imaginary horse race while his monitor is zeroed in on a man who is about to get zapped by a couple of hundred thousand volts. If management doesn't fire him for incompetency, insubordination, etc., they'd be in for a heap of conspiracy theory rationale when the idiot kills a roomful of fellow union employees. Then, it would be management targeting whistle blowers.

Everything on the table is an option for cash and prizes in Union world.
 
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Well, thattruly is a good idea. However, it has drawbacks: if we build more nuclear plants, they need to be surrounded by or at least near to military bases in order to reduce the threat of terrorists hanging around plants relegated to remote badlands with insufficient terrorist-monitoring abilities. Also, some of the states who want nuclear power want nothing to do with storage of nuclear waste. Who do we expect to store radioactive nuke waste that has a half life in the millions of years?

Organizers shut down a plant that had not opened yet in the State of Washington because of the waste disposal issue. It cost consumers 30 million in already-spent construction costs.

Oregon and many watered states use natural water power to generate electricity. This is my favorite, although precautions are needed to protect fish and other resources in the biological ecosystem. Some states are too flat or too dry for water power, so unfortunately, that makes it impractical there.

It's complex.

The US Navy has shown that it manages nuclear power almost perfectly. I wouldn't be opposed to simply turning the keys to every plant in existence along with the ones we're going to need to build over to the Navy. Not every solution needs to come from private enterprise.

Build them where ever....they will always be a target for terrorism. Fort Knox would not be secure enough.

Just out of curiosity and I know the answer is probably no; would it be possible to just use an existing nuclear powered vessel to add power to the grid? As one of these cruisers goes out of commission; can we dock it, lets say in Jacksonville or Portland, OR and hook up some cables more or less?

Just a thought.
Nice theory so long as unions don't take over the Navy.

In the real energy world, trying to can an incompetent union employee who refuses to take a different job when the one he has could kill 30 people in one moment of inattention for which he is famous, and almost did the deed, is next to impossible. And the person who fires him is ostracized for life by union personnel, although they know from personal experience one wrong touch of a button can kill another man or a group of men or a room full of working men. But because management is not to be trusted, they cling to the union that obfuscates the facts in order to vilify management for cash rewards. They know what they're doing is wrong, but they do it for financial gain.

If you changed an incompetent guy's job in the Navy and he resisted for any reason, he'd be the inmate in a brig in a new york minute with everyone on board agreeing he had it coming.

This is not a perfect world we live in in the presence of danger, but sometimes someone's idea of his make-a-wish job is something he will never be qualified to do based on his deficiencies but not known until he does actually almost does someone else in, or his service is filled with multiple discrepancies that are a management and unknown numbers of fellow worker's nightmare due to the danger such a person places them in by showing up to work, and going into play-computer games mode while someone's life hangs in the balance if he forgets to throw a safety switch when he is scheduled to, or he's winning an imaginary horse race while his monitor is zeroed in on a man who is about to get zapped by a couple of hundred thousand volts. If management doesn't fire him for incompetency, insubordination, etc., they'd be in for a heap of conspiracy theory rationale when the idiot kills a roomful of fellow union employees. Then, it would be management targeting whistle blowers.

Everything on the table is an option for cash and prizes in Union world.
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"What the Experts are Not Telling About Renewable Green Energy"

Green energy is also unlikely to reduce our dependence on foreign imports. Since renewable energy sources are unreliable, we need a way to store this collected energy, meaning batteries. Who dominates the market for elements needed to make these batteries? (china).
http://www.usmessageboard.com/Green...ements needed to make these batteries? China.

Another point this author claims is that energy provided by one oil well is the equivalent of 20 large windmills on a windmill farm. Wind farms are considered visual pollution by some.

Some say there is more oil and natural gas in the Rocky Mountains than in the entire Middle East. But objections to drilling stifle its exploitation. Any thoughts?

th oil and gas is expensive to extract, cause of the way its was deposited.
 
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