How long can republicans keep up the charade?

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How long do you think congressional republicans can keep up the charade that they might actually support the "right" healthcare reform bill?

It's pretty clear that they don't want any healthcare reform legislation. And I don't criticize them on that since I'm not sure I want it either. But for political reasons they're unwilling to just come right out and say they don't want it. And so they've been keeping this charade going that seems to get more and more transparent with every passing day.

So, how long can they keep it up?
 
How long do you think congressional republicans can keep up the charade that they might actually support the "right" healthcare reform bill?

It's pretty clear that they don't want any healthcare reform legislation. And I don't criticize them on that since I'm not sure I want it either. But for political reasons they're unwilling to just come right out and say they don't want it. And so they've been keeping this charade going that seems to get more and more transparent with every passing day.

So, how long can they keep it up?

I think you are wrong. I truly believe that most people, including myself, would like to see some health care reform. The way we go about it is important. It should be something we can afford to do as a nation. What the government is throwing at us right now is very bad stuff and will destroy the country financially and give too much control to the government. We need to approach Health Care Reform in a different way.
 
I too think that a true reform bill that does not expand government into areas of provider, insurer, or control would indeed be welcomed... focus on elimination of the things that help increase costs, focus on encouraging competition between new and existing private companies in the areas of insurance and provider-ship, focus on outrageous lawsuits in our court systems, and other similar things...

We have a great system... it can be improved without a Robin Hood system, making taxpayers pay for care of others, and without huge government ownership and expansion
 
Why is there such a resistence to opening coverage purchase across state lines? Has anyone heard a good answer? I don't understand why this isn't a quick and easy way to lower costs and improve coverage to more Americans through good ol' fashioned competition.
 
Why is there such a resistence to opening coverage purchase across state lines? Has anyone heard a good answer? I don't understand why this isn't a quick and easy way to lower costs and improve coverage to more Americans through good ol' fashioned competition.

Exactly.
Competition is the quickest way to reform of prices.
 
Ohhh the Republicans can keep up the HC charade for about as long as they have kept up the charade on being for less spending and smaller govt.
 
Ohhh the Republicans can keep up the HC charade for about as long as they have kept up the charade on being for less spending and smaller govt.

So let's spend MORE and build an even BIGGER Government.
That'll show 'em! :clap2:
 
Ohhh the Republicans can keep up the HC charade for about as long as they have kept up the charade on being for less spending and smaller govt.

That's as opposed to the current clowns who are about to bankrupt us? Don't lament the big bad Republicans unless you recognize that the Dems are (marginally) worse.
 
Yep.. bad that many Republicans have not embraced the conservative way and have fallen prey to big government, big kickbacks, and big power.... and I hope they are replaced just as I hope the big government big spending Democrats are
 
Why is there such a resistence to opening coverage purchase across state lines? Has anyone heard a good answer? I don't understand why this isn't a quick and easy way to lower costs and improve coverage to more Americans through good ol' fashioned competition.
It's because the whole idea of the Democrat's wanting to "reform healthcare" isn't to save costs or provide health care, it is to increase their power and government control over our lives.
 
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How long do you think congressional republicans can keep up the charade that they might actually support the "right" healthcare reform bill?

It's pretty clear that they don't want any healthcare reform legislation. And I don't criticize them on that since I'm not sure I want it either. But for political reasons they're unwilling to just come right out and say they don't want it. And so they've been keeping this charade going that seems to get more and more transparent with every passing day.

So, how long can they keep it up?

I am curious...exactly what gives you reason to believe it is a charade?

Would you consider it a charade for the blue dogs as well? Do you believe that they, too, have no interest in healthcare reform?

What, on Thursday, gave you reason to believe that they do not want some kind of healthcare reform?

Why do you chastise them when they were the only ones on Thursday that presented ideas on how to step by step reduce healthcare costs without adding dramatically to the deficit?

After the chance taken on the trillion dollars of BORROWED money on the stimulus, why is it a bad isea to take baby steps that cost us nothing and allows us to monitor what works and what doesnt work as it pertains to healthcare?

Let me ask you this. When will the democrats cave in and admit that it is not healthcare reform they want, but a government takeover of healthcare instead...with, of course, one of the benefits being healthcare reform.
 
Ohhh the Republicans can keep up the HC charade for about as long as they have kept up the charade on being for less spending and smaller govt.

That's as opposed to the current clowns who are about to bankrupt us? Don't lament the big bad Republicans unless you recognize that the Dems are (marginally) worse.

Marginally yes. But the dems pretty much never claimed otherwise?
 
Oh yeah...and finally...I must ask this....

The democratic plan does not kick in for 4 years....so instead, why not institute IMMEDIATELYTsome cost saving plans that cost us nothing...and see how that works FIRST?
 
Why is there such a resistence to opening coverage purchase across state lines? Has anyone heard a good answer? I don't understand why this isn't a quick and easy way to lower costs and improve coverage to more Americans through good ol' fashioned competition.

coverage purchase accross state lines is available now. It depends on the company and the state laws.
What you are talking about is a state law issue not a federal one.
Should the feds force the states to not be able to regulate the companies doing business in their state?
 
How long do you think congressional republicans can keep up the charade that they might actually support the "right" healthcare reform bill?

It's pretty clear that they don't want any healthcare reform legislation. And I don't criticize them on that since I'm not sure I want it either. But for political reasons they're unwilling to just come right out and say they don't want it. And so they've been keeping this charade going that seems to get more and more transparent with every passing day.

So, how long can they keep it up?

A few lone Republicans want free-market style healthcare reform legislation, but there aren't many. It saddens me that Americans can't rely on the GOP anymore to stop the socialist Democrats from taking over. God help us all.
 
Oh yeah...and finally...I must ask this....

The democratic plan does not kick in for 4 years....so instead, why not institute IMMEDIATELYTsome cost saving plans that cost us nothing...and see how that works FIRST?
Liberals don't want to go anywhere near anything that has to do with "cost savings" unless it guts National Defense.
 
Oh yeah...and finally...I must ask this....

The democratic plan does not kick in for 4 years....so instead, why not institute IMMEDIATELYTsome cost saving plans that cost us nothing...and see how that works FIRST?
Liberals don't want to go anywhere near anything that has to do with "cost savings" unless it guts National Defense.

Perhaps true...but why is it that the GOP is being called the "obstructionists" when, in fact, the dems want government control or nothing...and the GOP is the one who presented ideas on how to do what the DEMS say needs to be done....healthcare cost cutting.

I watch the news and I am blown away at how they seem to avoid discussing how one plan the dem plan, will actually INCREASE cost to those that buy on their own and the GOP plan will decrease the cost...and all along the premise of a plan is to cut costs....

Yeah...I know...media bais....but putting that aside.....what the hell are the poeple thinking?
 
As near as I can tell Pelosi and her posse want to pass something. Anything so they can say, hey we passed healthcare reform. The cost of this hc reform doesn't seem to register with her or Reid.

If this passes it won't kick in for 5 years. We will be paying for something and there will be no benefit for 5 years. If there is a benefit. The cost is going to be much more than what is predicted. Like all Govt programs. The folks that passed it probably won't be around for the blowback. Go figure.
 

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