How is obama’s immigration policy not amnesty?

[LilOlLady]

HOW IS OBAMA’S IMMIGRATION POLICY NOT AMNESTY?

I just heard Michelle explaining Obama better than he can. Under Secretary of Explaining Things under Clinton. 5.1 million jobs created in the last 30 months is not a failure.
Ann talks about what a good father and husband Romney is but not how he plan to turn the economy around and pay down the deficit and how his business experience would make him a good president of the people when his business policies only worked for him and his corporations buddies.

One thing Michelle was not able to explain away is why 1.7 million children that were brought here by no fault of their own and grew up here deserve and entitled to a reprieve from deportation and given a work permit at the expense of hard working Americans who only want the best for their kids and have contributed to the system that will not be there for them. She fail to explain away how the parents of these children will not be deported either. And how is this not amnesty if there will be no immigration enforcement and no more deportation and it not amnesty. “A rose by any other name, is still a rose”
I would love to hear a debate between Michelle and Ann.

 

[waltky]

Immigration: Amnesty Vs Amnesty-Lite?...

Marco Rubio's amnesty-lite immigration plan vs. Obama's amnesty plan
14 Jan.`13 - Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has proposed a pragmatic amnesty-lite plan that would allow the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States to earn a pathway to legal residency (as opposed to a path to citizenship).

Rubio released some general points about his proposal Wednesday to the Wall Street Journal for a Saturday story -- a day after before Rubio spoke Thursday to the New York Times as it was reporting out a comprehensive immigration plan that President Obama plans to push. That Times story appeared Sunday. Obama's plan would give illegal immigrants a pathway to citizenship. And it would be one big bill. Rubio, who says illegal immigrants should pay a fine and have clean criminal records, has called for a more piecemeal approach, although he told the Times that it's not a "line in the sand." He's working on at least three or four bills. Note: Rubio is not opposed to people earning citizenship once they're on the pathway to legal residency. "Under Rubio's approach, qualifying undocumented immigrants would be given visas to stay in the US," spokesman Alex Conant said. "Then, after a certain amount of time and after doing a bunch of other stuff (like paying back taxes, etc.), they could then earn ability to apply for permanent residence, just like any other legal immigrant. They would have to get to back of line, but permanent residence is first step towards naturalization."

Just how this would all work is unclear. There's no legislation. That's a reflection of Washington's culture, which rewards talk more than action. Rubio is a good talker. Relative to that, Rubio's record as a doer is more wanting (but then he's in the minority and has been in the Senate for two years). Meantime, Rubio has garnered favorable, national attention for his proposals in the past without having to provide anything on paper. So there's little incentive for him to change now. Also, putting something on paper before you build consensus is a good way to lose on an issue. In some ways, Rubio's latest proposal is a replay of his DREAM Act alternative for illegal immigrants who raised in the United States who were brought here as kids. Rubio released no formal plan or bill there, either. The Obama Administration aped the measure via executive action. And then Rubio dropped the measure with little fanfare. He got the good press and no blowback. Welcome to DC. Conant said that Rubio plan was "tabled.... since it had no chance of passing after Obama's EO removed urgency and inflamed partisan politics"

The politics are more toxic for Rubio. Despite what Republicans will say, it's members of their party who have stopped immigration reform in 2006 and with the scuttling of the DREAM Act, which Rubio essentially voted against. Still, Democratic-leaning unions aren't big fans of immigration reform. But things could be different now. More galling than amnesty: losing major elections. And Republicans, after seeing Hispanics flock to President Obama, have probably had enough of losing on this issue. Alex Leary at The Buzz made this hand-dandy bullet list of Rubio's plan culled from the journal story: Any overhaul, he says, needs to "modernize" legal immigration. America caps the number of visas for skilled workers and favors the relatives of people already here. "I'm a big believer in family-based immigration," he says. "But I don't think that in the 21st century we can continue to have an immigration system where only 6.5% of people who come here, come here based on labor and skill. We have to move toward merit and skill-based immigration."

He says the U.S. can either change the ratio of preferences for family-based immigration or raise the hard cap on people who bring investment or skills into the country. He prefers the latter, noting that the U.S. doesn't produce enough science, math and engineering graduates to fill the open posts in high-tech. He says this number can be adjusted to demand: "I don't think there's a lot of concern in this country that we'll somehow get overrun by Ph.D.s and entrepreneurs." At the other end of the skill and wage scale, most of the 1.6 million agricultural laborers in America are Hispanics, the bulk of them illegal immigrants. American produce couldn't be picked without them. The number and type of visas provided through a guest-worker program would have to be sufficient to address this pressing need. From Georgia to Washington state in recent seasons, unpicked fruits and vegetables have rotted in the fields. He'd look to increase the number of visas for permanent or seasonal farm workers. "The goal is to give American agriculture a reliable work force and to give protection to these workers as well," Mr. Rubio says. "When someone is [undocumented] they're vulnerable to being exploited."

Read more here: Marco Rubio's amnesty-lite immigration plan vs. Obama's amnesty plan | Naked Politics

See also:

Obama to push for one-step, comprehensive immigration reform early in second term
January 13, 2013 - President Obama seems ready to tackle the illegal immigration issue in the coming months and push Congress to act promptly on comprehensive reform of U.S. policy, perhaps laying out his plan in the coming weeks.

The president and Senate Democrats will propose the changes in a comprehensive bill, compared to some Republicans who want a more step-by-step reform, according to The New York Times.

Democrats purportedly want a plan that includes a path to citizenship for most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country. They also said last week they will oppose measures that stop immigrants who gain legal status from eventually becoming citizens.

Obama and Congress already face two pressing issues: likely gun-control legislation following the 26 killings last month at a Connecticut elementary school and three major fiscal issues – the debt ceiling, massive spending cuts known as sequestration and reaching a budget resolution.

The president could outline the detail of his plan in his State of the Union address next month, according to The Times.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...on-reform-early-in-second-term/#ixzz2I1E7JL00

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Two years work permits are not "amnesty".

I would love to hear a debate between Michelle and Ann.

There wouldn't be any.
Hate our First Lady if you want but she's smarter by a factor of a gazillion than poor little protected and useless waste of space, Ann Romney.
Love Ann Romney if you want, but don't try to make her out to be a human being.

LOL, you have a whole load of hate you carry around.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

HOW IS OBAMA’S IMMIGRATION POLICY NOT AMNESTY?

I just heard Michelle explaining...

reading and comprehension classes might help you out here...

until then...

Ronald Reagan gave illegals amnesty. Obama is not copying Reagan

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

HOW IS OBAMA’S IMMIGRATION POLICY NOT AMNESTY?

I just heard Michelle explaining...

reading and comprehension classes might help you out here...

until then...

Ronald Reagan gave illegals amnesty. Obama is not copying Reagan

ahem...